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[Kenka]

Maybe you should have spoilertagged the last con, Alex.

 

[ASIS]

Maybe you should have spoilertagged the last con, Alex.

By overworld they mean no field. I think that's something everyone knew at this point.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

German GamePro gave the game 93%

Cons-

Aliasing, low detailed textures
Samples instead of voices (regarding voice acting)
No overworld map

Good to see that come up. Zelda badly needs (deserves) voice acting. It’s not 1998 anymore Nintendo!

 

[AlexSmash]

Maybe you should have spoilertagged the last con, Alex.

Spoiler

i thought about that too, but basically it means, that there is no seamless overworld, what everybody was kind of expecting.

The pros sound very promising.

 

[Magicpaint]

Good to see that come up. Zelda badly needs (deserves) voice acting. It’s not 1998 anymore Nintendo!

Because reading is sooooo 1998 ikr.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Shouldn't it only be compared to other games on the same system imo, not the HD twins, and thus low detailed textures are everytwehre on wii.

Each publication decides this one way or the other separately, there is no consistency.

 

[ASIS]

Good to see that come up. Zelda badly needs (deserves) voice acting. It’s not 1998 anymore Nintendo!

Obviously, just like pretty much everyone, I won't mind Voice Acting if it's done very well.

HOWEVER, are there any Japanese games that had great voice acting?

 

[zigg]

Good to see that come up. Zelda badly needs (deserves) voice acting. It’s not 1998 anymore Nintendo!

I could not care less about VA, since I read much faster than it's delivered and usually end up cutting it off as fast as the system lets me.

Samples actually end up working better for me.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Funny. When it comes to voice acting everyone complains about Zelda but no one about Mario.

It's always the same.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Good to see that come up. Zelda badly needs (deserves) voice acting. It’s not 1998 anymore Nintendo!

It needs a decent story first. As it is, Zelda games are pretty much the story of the dude who saves Sleeping Beauty, and that doesn't really require much dialogue. It's a different kind of story-telling.

 

[ASIS]

Funny. When it comes to voice acting everyone complains about Zelda but no one about Mario.

It's always the same.

And pretty much everyone complained about Metroid having voice acting.

But i don't see how this relates to Zelda...

 

[The Technomancer]

WW is also quite possibly the most timeless game ever created visually. Certainly up there with them. The damn thing just doesn't age.

 

[KarmaCow]

Funny. When it comes to voice acting everyone complains about Zelda but no one about Mario.

It's always the same.

That's because Mario shouldn't have that much dialogue(/story) in the first place.

 

[walking fiend]

German GamePro gave the game 93%

Cons-

Aliasing, low detailed textures
Samples instead of voices (regarding voice acting)
No overworld map

I will stop playing Zelda if they give it VO.

 

[cajunator]

Good to see that come up. Zelda badly needs (deserves) voice acting. It’s not 1998 anymore Nintendo!

No, it doesn't.
Voice acting is cheezy as fuck in videogames. It just doesn't work well.

 

[Bit-Bit]

WW is also quite possibly the most timeless game ever created visually. Certainly up there with them. The damn thing just doesn't age.

This is a fact. I was watching the Zelda documentary last night and when Wind Waker came on, I thought it looked better than many games released this gen.

At the time of it's release, many publications said it was like a painting come to life. And to this day, that's still true.

 

[E-phonk]

they should do all the voices in Hylian just to troll those asking for VA.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

The anti-voice acting argument is kinda hard to shallow lately considering Arkham City just came out and Uncharted 3 is coming next week.

 

[E-phonk]

I was watching the Zelda documentary last night and when Wind Waker came on, I thought it looked better than many games released this gen.

I still don't understand nintendo didn't reuse that particular toonshading engine. It would work very well for wii games.

 

[Bit-Bit]

they should do all the voices in Hylian just to troll those asking for VA.

If they were to ever do voice acting, I would greatly prefer for them to do it in a dialect that doesn't exist.

Kinda like the way Fi and Midna talks. But with more coherency with the text that's being displayed.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Good to see that come up. Zelda badly needs (deserves) voice acting. It’s not 1998 anymore Nintendo!

But it does it need VA?
No, it does not.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Because reading is sooooo 1998 ikr.

There is nothing -- nothing -- acceptable about an audio-visual medium pointing a camera at an animating humanoid moving their mouth and flailing their arms about with no sound coming out. It's a completely abhorrent video game trope that should have died with the 64 and PS1. There is no defending it.

Will it ruin the game? No. It's totally ok to simply accept the decision, but don't try and defend it.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

I still don't understand nintendo didn't reuse that particular toonshading engine. It would work very well for wii games.

Personally I love the WW cel shading graphic style to death.

but it got a shitload of bad words from fans. The press thought its amazing the fans cried and wanted a Zelda game with realistic looking graphics. Thats why they made TP in a more real graphic style.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

There is nothing -- nothing -- acceptable about an audio-visual medium pointing a camera at an animating humanoid moving their mouth and flailing their arms about with no sound coming out. It's a completely abhorrent video game trope that should have died with the 64 and PS1.

It completely ruins the charm and stifles imagination and is one of the major reasons I stopped enjoying JRPGs.

 

[Bluemercury]

There is nothing -- nothing -- acceptable about an audio-visual medium pointing a camera at an animating humanoid moving their mouth and flailing their arms about with no sound coming out. It's a completely abhorrent video game trope that should have died with the 64 and PS1. There is no defending it.

Will it ruin the game? No. It's totally ok to simply accept the decision, but don't try and defend it.

There's many movies with 20 dialog sentences....and they're masterpieces...


edit:never mind...understood something different

 

[The Technomancer]

There is nothing -- nothing -- acceptable about an audio-visual medium pointing a camera at an animating humanoid moving their mouth and flailing their arms about with no sound coming out. It's a completely abhorrent video game trope that should have died with the 64 and PS1. There is no defending it.

Perhaps not defending it, but I shudder to think what the alternative would be.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

No, it doesn't.
Voice acting is cheezy as fuck in videogames. It just doesn't work well.

This is utter nonsense. If you've only been playing bad JRPGs for the past decade, sure. I suggest playing anything recent with a budget.

 

[rhino4evr]

No, it doesn't.
Voice acting is cheezy as fuck in videogames. It just doesn't work well.

What? We aren't living in the PS1 days anymore. There are a lot of games with amazing voice acting, some games like say Portal/Portal 2 are made better because of the voice acting

My opinion on this has always been, let link remain silent, but allow the other characters/townspeople to speak.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

There's many movies with 20 dialog sentences....and they're masterpieces...


edit:never mind...understood something different

But Zelda has hundreds of lines of dialogue?

 

[Hot Coldman]

They should have NoE handle voice acting for future Zelda games.

"COR BLIMEY LINK, LET'S GO AND GET THAT TRIFORCE"

 

[Cygnus X-1]

German GamePro gave the game 93%

Great score.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Perhaps not defending it, but I shudder to think what the alternative would be.

This. The risk of it sucking is too high. BK Origins/DQ VIII VA quality or bust.

 

[E-phonk]

Personally I love the WW cel shading graphic style to death.

but it got a shitload of bad words from fans. The press thought its amazing the fans cried and wanted a Zelda game with realistic looking graphics. Thats why they made TP in a more real graphic style.

I wasn't talking about using it for zelda persé. Other Wii games could've benefitted from it.

 

[walking fiend]

There is nothing -- nothing -- acceptable about an audio-visual medium pointing a camera at an animating humanoid moving their mouth and flailing their arms about with no sound coming out. It's a completely abhorrent video game trope that should have died with the 64 and PS1. There is no defending it.

Will it ruin the game? No. It's totally ok to simply accept the decision, but don't try and defend it.

You are full of yourself. What makes you think you are so right about this? I am only short of puking.

 

[rhino4evr]

The voice acting in Eternal Darkness was pretty damn good.

I really think its a financial decision rather then a design decision. Nintendo is super cheap when it comes to the extras, they tend to spend more time and money on the actual gameplay, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Rebel Leader]

It completely ruins the charm and stifles imagination and is one of the major reasons I stopped enjoying JRPGs.

I remember a interview on gametrailers with the guy who does VA for mario, interviewer asked about link haveing a voice, He said IIRC that it would not happen because of....

Damn, I can't remember.
This interview happend years ago.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Voice acting would also require necessary changes to the entire script. Zelda games aren't written to be spoken out loud. Most of its communication comes from movement, expression, exaggeration and graphical design, not words.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Miyamoto said it multiple times, everyone imagines his own voice for Link. He don't want to destroy that illusion.

 

[walking fiend]

The voice acting in Eternal Darkness was pretty damn good.

I really think its a financial decision rather then a design decision. Nintendo is super cheap when it comes to the extras, they tend to spend more time and money on the actual gameplay, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

So they were not cheap with Other M but are with Zelda?

Stop pretending that designers of Zelda think like you, that they want to add VA to Zelda, but aren't because of other reasons like budget.

It's a design choice, and I believe it's not going to change anytime soon, at least as long as Miyamoto is around. I hope so.

Miyamoto said it multiple times, everyone imagines his own voice for Link. He don't want to destroy that illusion.

but it is 2011, haven't you hear of HD? Haven't you heard of corridors? There's a lot of space for adding voice; this can't be the reason, how behind the curve can they be?! OMG!

 

[cajunator]

This is utter nonsense. If you've only been playing bad JRPGs for the past decade, sure. I suggest playing anything recent with a budget.

What, like Uncharted 2? Still seemed cheesy as fuck. Are you gonna tell me that had no budget?

 

[Cygnus X-1]

A Zelda with voice acting is not a Zelda anymore.

Additionally, every voice acting in videogaming is pretty average, at best.

 

[Paracelsus]

German GamePro gave the game 93%

Cons-

Aliasing, low detailed textures
Samples instead of voices (regarding voice acting)
No overworld map

>thatfeelingwhenneveragaintheywillmakeanoverworldasgoodaslttp.jpg

 

[Deleted member 30609]

What, like Uncharted 2? Still seemed cheesy as fuck. Are you gonna tell me that had no budget?

I'm going to right ahead and assume you're out of your god damn mind if you're implying that game would have been better with text bubbles.

 

[Interfectum]

What, like Uncharted 2? Still seemed cheesy as fuck. Are you gonna tell me that had no budget?

lol

 

[Hot Coldman]

What, like Uncharted 2? Still seemed cheesy as fuck. Are you gonna tell me that had no budget?

Uncharted is supposed to be cheesy, lol, it's the video game equivalent of Saturday morning adventure serials

 

[Sn4ke_911]

A Zelda with voice acting is not a Zelda anymore.

Additionally, every voice acting in videogaming is pretty average, at best.

wat?

Batman: Arkham City has AMAZING voice acting.

 

[mentalfloss]

wat?

Batman: Arkham City has AMAZING voice acting.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

I'm going to right ahead and assume you're out of your god damn mind if you're implying that game would have been better with text bubbles.

You're implying every game is the same. Uncharted 2 wouldn't be better with text bubbles, but Uncharted 2 and Zelda games aren't the same thing.

 

[walking fiend]

What's more, is that Zelda is a game that characters role and personality and age, everything, may change from one instalment to the other; Now imagine having several VA for Zelda universe characters each with different tones and casts, how would that fair?

It'll be a much more serious clusterfuck that giving Samus or Mario VA.

 

[Magicpaint]

There is nothing -- nothing -- acceptable about an audio-visual medium pointing a camera at an animating humanoid moving their mouth and flailing their arms about with no sound coming out. It's a completely abhorrent video game trope that should have died with the 64 and PS1. There is no defending it.

Will it ruin the game? No. It's totally ok to simply accept the decision, but don't try and defend it.

Maybe when videogames have gotten to the point where voice acting feels seamless and whole with the experience then I can accept the idea of Zelda including voice work. But in my experience, I am 99% more likely to be engaged in dialogue when I am reading it as opposed to hearing it in videogames. It's much easier to zone out when the voice work is jarring. So yes I will defend Zelda because I am perfectly okay with the lack of VA.