Sliding the Switch in and out of the dock will inevitably scratch the screen

So is anybody actually seeing scratches on there screen?

Or is everyone so focused on fixing something ober one persons issue?
See my post above. I have spotted scratches on both sides of the screen (in the black area/frame around the screen itself). And I haven't been slam dunking or quickly tearing the console into/out of the dock.

Buy a glass screen protector or buy the basic HORI one for 10 bucks. It's incredibly easy to apply and even easier to remove any bubbles when you're done.
I saw a thread about the HORI one where people are having issues with it already.
 
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"Look at what you made me do to your screen!"
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So is anybody actually seeing scratches on there screen?

Or is everyone so focused on fixing something ober one persons issue?

Three posts before yours:

Damn, I took a close look at my Switch tonight and spotted one or two little scratches. I can count on one hand how many times I've docked/undocked the system since Friday, but damn if it's not a bummer. I've been super careful. They're only visible if I look at the system in the right lighting/angle, but I'll be if this doesn't seem like an egregious oversight on Nintendo's engineer's parts. I've never been crazy about screen protectors, I can never get them on correctly/evenly/bubble-free. Maybe I'll thumb through the thread and find the padding suggestion that makes the most sense for me.


There are many, many more in this thread.
 
I've just got off the phone with Nintendo Japan regarding the dock, and will hopefully be being sent a replacement that isn't bent.

A few things I want to address:

"Just get a screen protector if you're worried about it"
This is nonsensical - People get screen protectors to protect their screen from day to day life interactions, like accidentally putting your keys in the same pocket as your phone, to protect against minor drops and scuffs, the idea of getting a screen protector in general is perfectly fine - HOWEVER, having to buy and install a screen protector to protect a device from its own stock accessories is completely and utterly unacceptable - It's up to the manufacturer to do the testing and development to ensure that a device performs in the proper way and does not damage itself from normal use.

The dock having issues with scratching the screen is not the users fault, even if someone takes it out roughly, the dock simply should not use abrasive materials against soft plastic surfaces.
If you bought a phone and it came with a special case that was an integral part of the phones design and added further features to the phone (i.e. the case was the only option you had to access those features), you would not expect that case to also gradually damage the phone under normal use - so it's not out of the question for people to expect Nintendo to ship a dock that doesn't damage the Switch under normal use either - especially when docking and playing on a TV is such a major selling point of the device.

Simply put, the end user should not be expected to pay an additional cost (no matter how low that cost is) to prevent damage from interaction with OEM accessories.

The people complaining about this are not "nintendo haters", they are not "shills trying to increase screen protector sales" (this one especially is laughable given that the go-to dismissal from that side of the argument point at screen protectors as the solution), they are just Switch owners who feel they shouldn't have to buy additional things or mod their dock to prevent damage - this is something that can and should have been addressed by Nintendo during R&D.

I see many, many people chiming in with "well mine doesn't have any scratches so i think it's all a lie" - as pointed out multiple times in the thread, the dock has an issue with being bent to varying degrees, thus it stands to reason that the scratching can and will occur with varying ease, too, just because you don't have scratches now, doesn't mean you won't forever, and each time you play docked and the docks plastic gets put through a heat cycle, the chances it will eventually bend inwards and touch the screen increases too. the number of scratched screen reports is only going to increase over the coming weeks and months, so why not address it now and get Nintendo to sort it out before they've sold too many for a replacement/solution to be financially feasible?

Secondly, the dock's design suffers from two critical issues:

1) Design - The guidance tabs inside the dock should not have been left as raw plastic, or at the very least, had their edges rounded off to prevent corners doing linear scratches, this is a massive oversight by Nintendo.
2) Manufacturing negligence - The sporadic and varied occurrence of bending in the front panel is most definitely down to the plastics mold injection process, and, from my experience in engineering suggests either the production line was moving too quickly and ejecting the molded plastic too soon, or calibration issues with spot checks for quality control not happening often enough to weed out such issues whichever (or even if both) are the cause, it's on Nintendo to put things right - Be it with a redesigned dock for mail in replacement for current owners, or an exchange program for people with bent front panels.

Dismissing the issue entirely is nonsensical, protecting your feelings about the system / Nintendo should not take priority over protecting consumers from shoddy product design.
 
So is anybody actually seeing scratches on there screen?

Or is everyone so focused on fixing something ober one persons issue?

I saw this thread before I got my switch, so I've been babying that thing like a mofo, and it still has some slight marks from the dock, so I've been using the foam that came in the box as a guard when placing it in the dock until I get a protector.
 
Hmm mine seems ok after a couple.days of solid use.

Is the screen protector that comes with the nintendo do case good enough? I have that coming.
 
I truly wonder if Nintendo will do anything to rectify the scratching issue. They didn't do anything about the 3DS scratching itself right? Maybe they released an updated model that didn't do it, but they never did anything for the original models and never helped out the early adopters, right? Won't they just follow suit here?
 
I truly wonder if Nintendo will do anything to rectify the scratching issue. They didn't do anything about the 3DS scratching itself right? Maybe they released an updated model that didn't do it, but they never did anything for the original models and never helped out the early adopters, right? Won't they just follow suit here?

Depends, because for everyone willing to hold Nintendo accountable there seems to be one willing to bend over backwards and defend the indefensible.
 
"Just get a screen protector if you're worried about it"

Didn't want to quote the whole thing, but this is a really good post.

I don't really understand this mantra some people seem to have that screen protectors should be mandatory for all mobile devices or else you'll get what you deserve.

Over the past 6 years I've had 2 iPhones and 2 iPads without any screen protection and the screens have remained in pristine condition. Hell, even my 5 year old Vita still has a flawless screen.

I understand protectors give people a certain peace of mind with their devices, and that's cool, but by no means should it be mandatory under normal usage conditions.

If these things are scratching after only a couple days of use, Nintendo has seriously screwed up somewhere.
 
I truly wonder if Nintendo will do anything to rectify the scratching issue. They didn't do anything about the 3DS scratching itself right? Maybe they released an updated model that didn't do it, but they never did anything for the original models and never helped out the early adopters, right? Won't they just follow suit here?

I don't see them doing anything, they haven't in the past hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
Have any news sites or blogs tried to write an article about this yet?
I would have assumed Kotaku and Polygon would be all over this.
 
I've just got off the phone with Nintendo Japan regarding the dock, and will hopefully be being sent a replacement that isn't bent.

A few things I want to address:

"Just get a screen protector if you're worried about it"
This is nonsensical - People get screen protectors to protect their screen from day to day life interactions, like accidentally putting your keys in the same pocket as your phone, to protect against minor drops and scuffs, the idea of getting a screen protector in general is perfectly fine - HOWEVER, having to buy and install a screen protector to protect a device from its own stock accessories is completely and utterly unacceptable - It's up to the manufacturer to do the testing and development to ensure that a device performs in the proper way and does not damage itself from normal use.

The dock having issues with scratching the screen is not the users fault, even if someone takes it out roughly, the dock simply should not use abrasive materials against soft plastic surfaces.
If you bought a phone and it came with a special case that was an integral part of the phones design and added further features to the phone (i.e. the case was the only option you had to access those features), you would not expect that case to also gradually damage the phone under normal use - so it's not out of the question for people to expect Nintendo to ship a dock that doesn't damage the Switch under normal use either - especially when docking and playing on a TV is such a major selling point of the device.

Simply put, the end user should not be expected to pay an additional cost (no matter how low that cost is) to prevent damage from interaction with OEM accessories.

The people complaining about this are not "nintendo haters", they are not "shills trying to increase screen protector sales" (this one especially is laughable given that the go-to dismissal from that side of the argument point at screen protectors as the solution), they are just Switch owners who feel they shouldn't have to buy additional things or mod their dock to prevent damage - this is something that can and should have been addressed by Nintendo during R&D.

I see many, many people chiming in with "well mine doesn't have any scratches so i think it's all a lie" - as pointed out multiple times in the thread, the dock has an issue with being bent to varying degrees, thus it stands to reason that the scratching can and will occur with varying ease, too, just because you don't have scratches now, doesn't mean you won't forever, and each time you play docked and the docks plastic gets put through a heat cycle, the chances it will eventually bend inwards and touch the screen increases too. the number of scratched screen reports is only going to increase over the coming weeks and months, so why not address it now and get Nintendo to sort it out before they've sold too many for a replacement/solution to be financially feasible?

Secondly, the dock's design suffers from two critical issues:

1) Design - The guidance tabs inside the dock should not have been left as raw plastic, or at the very least, had their edges rounded off to prevent corners doing linear scratches, this is a massive oversight by Nintendo.
2) Manufacturing negligence - The sporadic and varied occurrence of bending in the front panel is most definitely down to the plastics mold injection process, and, from my experience in engineering suggests either the production line was moving too quickly and ejecting the molded plastic too soon, or calibration issues with spot checks for quality control not happening often enough to weed out such issues whichever (or even if both) are the cause, it's on Nintendo to put things right - Be it with a redesigned dock for mail in replacement for current owners, or an exchange program for people with bent front panels.

Dismissing the issue entirely is nonsensical, protecting your feelings about the system / Nintendo should not take priority over protecting consumers from shoddy product design.

did they say anything about addressing the issue or did they have no idea about it like another cs rep that was spoken to earlier?

I called Nintendo support as my dock is severely bent like those photos. They said that they hadn't heard of this issue before. He said he had to check with his manager.

He came back and they didn't even want me to do a repair with them they said take it back to the store for an exchange which I replied they are all out of stock and that I can't transfer save files so that is out of the question when I just need a dock. He said well the store should have plenty of docks available see if you can just switch that out, that the serial number on the dock is different anyway. I said I didn't see any docks or hear that they were selling them in store at all yet. He said oh no we shipped lots of docks to retailers with all our other accessories. Is this true cause I'll just go buy a Dock but I don't think it is?

Finally I convinced him to do a repair and he is emailing me a return shipping label says I just need to return the dock and they will repair it if there is something wrong with it. Do you think they will even notice the bent dock? I have little faith in Nintendo Repair center. He also said he would do this dock repair as a 1 time courtesy. What does that even mean.
 
So far those amFilm protectors look nicest. I think an easier solution for me is a tri-wing screwdriver and a trip to goodwill for a easily modifiable dock.
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A few comments:

1. There have been reports that the Switch heats up in the dock and causes the adhesive to come loose on the screen protector.

2. There have been reports that the dock might be scratching the back of the unit as well.

3. There is no screen protector included in the box, and after reading the manual I don't see them recommend one either.
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This kinda puts people in a hard place since even if I ordered that amFilm it's not in stock until the 10th, so to avoid scratches I have to either dissemble the dock or not play it on the TV for a week.
 
I've just got off the phone with Nintendo Japan regarding the dock, and will hopefully be being sent a replacement that isn't bent.

A few things I want to address:

"Just get a screen protector if you're worried about it"
This is nonsensical - People get screen protectors to protect their screen from day to day life interactions, like accidentally putting your keys in the same pocket as your phone, to protect against minor drops and scuffs, the idea of getting a screen protector in general is perfectly fine - HOWEVER, having to buy and install a screen protector to protect a device from its own stock accessories is completely and utterly unacceptable - It's up to the manufacturer to do the testing and development to ensure that a device performs in the proper way and does not damage itself from normal use.

The dock having issues with scratching the screen is not the users fault, even if someone takes it out roughly, the dock simply should not use abrasive materials against soft plastic surfaces.
If you bought a phone and it came with a special case that was an integral part of the phones design and added further features to the phone (i.e. the case was the only option you had to access those features), you would not expect that case to also gradually damage the phone under normal use - so it's not out of the question for people to expect Nintendo to ship a dock that doesn't damage the Switch under normal use either - especially when docking and playing on a TV is such a major selling point of the device.

Simply put, the end user should not be expected to pay an additional cost (no matter how low that cost is) to prevent damage from interaction with OEM accessories.

The people complaining about this are not "nintendo haters", they are not "shills trying to increase screen protector sales" (this one especially is laughable given that the go-to dismissal from that side of the argument point at screen protectors as the solution), they are just Switch owners who feel they shouldn't have to buy additional things or mod their dock to prevent damage - this is something that can and should have been addressed by Nintendo during R&D.

I see many, many people chiming in with "well mine doesn't have any scratches so i think it's all a lie" - as pointed out multiple times in the thread, the dock has an issue with being bent to varying degrees, thus it stands to reason that the scratching can and will occur with varying ease, too, just because you don't have scratches now, doesn't mean you won't forever, and each time you play docked and the docks plastic gets put through a heat cycle, the chances it will eventually bend inwards and touch the screen increases too. the number of scratched screen reports is only going to increase over the coming weeks and months, so why not address it now and get Nintendo to sort it out before they've sold too many for a replacement/solution to be financially feasible?

Secondly, the dock's design suffers from two critical issues:

1) Design - The guidance tabs inside the dock should not have been left as raw plastic, or at the very least, had their edges rounded off to prevent corners doing linear scratches, this is a massive oversight by Nintendo.
2) Manufacturing negligence - The sporadic and varied occurrence of bending in the front panel is most definitely down to the plastics mold injection process, and, from my experience in engineering suggests either the production line was moving too quickly and ejecting the molded plastic too soon, or calibration issues with spot checks for quality control not happening often enough to weed out such issues whichever (or even if both) are the cause, it's on Nintendo to put things right - Be it with a redesigned dock for mail in replacement for current owners, or an exchange program for people with bent front panels.

Dismissing the issue entirely is nonsensical, protecting your feelings about the system / Nintendo should not take priority over protecting consumers from shoddy product design.
I agree entirely with everything in the above post.

I purchase screen protectors for all of my devices, whether it be my phone, handheld, etc. It's kind of a given that I do, since I'm paranoid over scratches on any of my devices, so I would have purchased a screen protector for the Switch regardless.

That being said, the fact that the dock scratches the screen UNDER NORMAL USE (not twisting/forcing the console in, but simply placing the handheld in the dock and/or removing it), that's unacceptable. It's great that there are people out there who don't have this issue, but that doesn't excuse the fact that some/many aren't as fortunate.

With the dock concerns, as well as the left joy-con sync issue, I'm debating whether I should open up the Switch I received yesterday or send it back to Amazon for a refund and wait it all out. It's depressing, since I was genuinely excited for the Switch (even if the only game of interest during the launch window was Breath of the Wild), but here I am considering sending it all back and playing BotW on my Wii U instead. Console launches are (ideally) supposed to be a pleasant experience that you look back on fondly. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be the case for the Switch unless (again) you got lucky in the build quality for your dock and/or left joy-con.

The only reason I haven't send my Switch back yet is because I'm hoping Nintendo issues a statement detailing their plans to compensate those affected (sending replacement dock/joy-con to owners suffering from the defects). I know once I return it that it'll be a long while until I get a chance to purchase another, so I'm kind of holding out hope that Nintendo does something about all of this.
 
I agree entirely with everything in the above post.

I purchase screen protectors for all of my devices, whether it be my phone, handheld, etc. It's kind of a given that I do, since I'm paranoid over scratches on any of my devices, so I would have purchased a screen protector for the Switch regardless.

That being said, the fact that the dock scratches the screen UNDER NORMAL USE (not twisting/forcing the console in, but simply placing the handheld in the dock and/or removing it), that's unacceptable. It's great that there are people out there who don't have this issue, but that doesn't excuse the fact that some/many aren't as fortunate.

With the dock concerns, as well as the left joy-con sync issue, I'm debating whether I should open up the Switch I received yesterday or send it back to Amazon for a refund and wait it all out. It's depressing, since I was genuinely excited for the Switch (even if the only game of interest during the launch window was Breath of the Wild), but here I am considering sending it all back and playing BotW on my Wii U instead. Console launches are (ideally) supposed to be a pleasant experience that you look back on fondly. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be the case for the Switch unless (again) you got lucky in the build quality for your dock and/or left joy-con.

The only reason I haven't send my Switch back yet is because I'm hoping Nintendo issues a statement detailing their plans to compensate those affected (sending replacement dock/joy-con to owners suffering from the defects). I know once I return it that it'll be a long while until I get a chance to purchase another, so I'm kind of holding out hope that Nintendo does something about all of this.

If it were me, I would keep it. I personally haven't had the joy-con issue in 20 hours of playing Zelda and Disgaea 5. I did have the dock scratch my switch's screen protector. But after I found out I jammed a book in there and it's bending the dock back to normal. Even with that, I love this system. I'm not exaggerating for one moment when I say I don't know how I survived without this thing. My life might be different than others having to go out a lot, but taking Zelda straight from my TV, into my car and then into a waiting room is just an amazing experience.
 
So it's been since yesterday and my method doesn't seem to have introduced any issue so I'll post it again in case folk want an easy solution while they wait for their protectors.

Just cut a piece of from the box where the Switch came from. I don't think it can scratch it since I'm being careful to slide the foam along with the switch when I dock/undock it. Because of the pressure, the foam have thined where the plastic tabs are so it fits just well. Doesn't seem to bend the screen side dock panel to the outide either.

Also, I don't if this makes a difference, but I made sure to put the 'soft' side of the foam on the screen, not the one with little squary thingies...just in case.

Hopefully this will do the trick until I receive my tempered glass from Orzly.

 
did they say anything about addressing the issue or did they have no idea about it like another cs rep that was spoken to earlier?

They had no idea but I got this email tonight is this pretty typical? I replied with a photo of the bent dock going around this neogaf thread.

From Nintendo
"I was reviewing some recent contacts and came across your repair. I would like to speak with you directly if possible.
Please reply to this e-mail with the following information:

Phone number:
The best time to call you:

I am usually in the office between the hours of 8:00am to 5:00pm PST. Please pick a time that falls within that block.

I am looking forward to speaking with you.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.
Dave J.
"
 
If it were me, I would keep it. I personally haven't had the joy-con issue in 20 hours of playing Zelda and Disgaea 5. I did have the dock scratch my switch's screen protector. But after I found out I jammed a book in there and it's bending the dock back to normal. Even with that, I love this system. I'm not exaggerating for one moment when I say I don't know how I survived without this thing. My life might be different than others having to go out a lot, but taking Zelda straight from my TV, into my car and then into a waiting room is just an amazing experience.
Yeah, I keep going back-and-forth. BotW is really the only Switch game that'll interest me for the next several months, but I'm so excited for it that I don't mind paying the premium to play it early on a new console, if it means a better experience. I have read that docked mode has slight frame-rate issues though (it would have been my preferred way to play the game, so I could enjoy 5.1 surround sound not to mention a larger screen), so I'm not entirely sure it's worth owning a Switch right now and playing it on my Wii U instead. I'd, of course, purchase a Switch later in the year, when more games are released/announced for it, but I'm guessing the price between now and then won't change drastically. The most that could happen is improved peripherals in the box, so a better dock and/or a more well-built joy-con.

Ugh! I'll give it a bit more thought. Never have I been this un-decided on a console at launch. :/
 
Has anyone used the Pitari Blue Screen Hori screen protector from Japan? That's the one I have on preorder.

I'm super paranoid now about scratching it :s
 
Be careful if you're making the dock a tighter fit. My screen is fine but I now have a scratch on the back and I feel like it had to have come from the dock. The back of the Switch doesn't even touch the surface it's placed on when it's set down so I'm guessing it came from the dock that I messed with.
 
Will Wii U Gamepad screen protectors work with the Switch?

Screens are the same size, and the availability and price of the Wii U ones is much much better.
 
Oh come on now.
I get some people are not as sensitive as others when it comes to frame rate, but not a single frame drop?

I haven't notice it and I'm sensitive to it. I'm not terribly far into the game though. I'm not saying there aren't any more after, but it's definitely reduced, as I haven't seen one yet since hitting hyyule field
 
To be fair, I haven't notice a single frame drop since leaving the plateau

and even then, my experience with the plateau had no notable framerate drops. the worst I got was MAYBE down for 25fps for half a second. Maybe I didn't go to the bad spots, but it feels like it was blown way out of proportion.
 
So Super Switch version is inevitable then?
I wouldn't be surprised to see an unannounced revision before holidays. My guess is it will look the same, same specs etc. just fix some issues like the dock scratching and left joycon desyncs. They can't afford to have all these issues during the big shopping season.

Not sure how they'll handle things for us early adopters. But at this point, one thing is for sure. Use a screen protector.
 
and even then, my experience with the plateau had no notable framerate drops. the worst I got was MAYBE down for 25fps for half a second. Maybe I didn't go to the bad spots, but it feels like it was blown way out of proportion.

To be fair, I haven't notice a single frame drop since leaving the plateau

Yeah, I can 2nd these two posts. I'm about 20 hours in and I haven't seen any really bad drops in the frame rate.
 
This is a goddamn no-win situation. I hate scratches on my screens and I hate screen protector installation. They almost all inevitably go wrong. The one I put on my 3DS still has some weird oily smudges under it that I have no idea what it could be...
 
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