Hyet
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Didn't Swicth 1 run at a higher clock when docked?
Why are the CPU clocks of Switch 2 so low in docked?
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Zathalus
Member
You're talking to a brick wall. It has been pointed out many times that the Steam Deck is perfectly capable of using XeSS, but he will keep using the same tired sources that use FSR2 and compare it to the docked mode.
He is simply trolling with his fake persona.
wafflecioccy
Member
Bro doesn't know how clockspeed works on a computer
wafflecioccy
Member
Cyberpunk is one of the most demanding games in existence and makes sense to compare tech with it
Buggy Loop
Member
Not CPU
Baemono
Member
There are 26 threads about Cyberpunk on the Switch created between April and today, I think we're way past the point where we need to create new threads for this game.
Business Trailer Hype Thread 'CDPR Switch 2 Cyberpunk Luanch Trailer'
Some clips from the CDPR website
press.cdprojektred.com
And here in a combined 37 minute video
Looking really good and performance seems good too!
Looks like DLSS is NSW2 cheat code.
CD PROJEKT RED Press Center
CD PROJEKT RED is a video game development studio focused on storytelling ingenuity, technical innovation, and absolute quality.
And here in a combined 37 minute video
Looking really good and performance seems good too!
Looks like DLSS is NSW2 cheat code.
Digital Foundry just uploaded their Direct Weekly and they confirm that Cyberpunk 2077 is using DLSS on the Switch 2. This is the first game confirmed to be using it I believe. Here's the video and the segment starts at 20 mins 20 seconds but the video is timestamped so it should take you straight to the right chapter when you click on it:
Here's the quote from CD Projekt PR that confirms it:
Other statements from CD Projekt in response to questions in an email sent by Richard:
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Here's the quote from CD Projekt PR that confirms it:
Other statements from CD Projekt in response to questions in an email sent by Richard:
Trailer Hardware Platform Thread 'Cyberpunk 2077 Switch 2 vs Steam Deck Early Graphics Comparison'
AI video summary
Key Insights
Switch 2 decisively outperforms Steam Deck and PS4: The Steam Deck, with slower LPDDR5 memory and an AMD-based GPU, struggles at lower resolutions and frame rates and exhibits more visual artifacts with FSR3. The PS4, due to older CPU/GPU and mechanical drive storage, underperforms significantly. Switch 2's streamlining of GPU, memory, and SSD delivers a superior experience, making it the premier handheld for Cyberpunk 2077 at launch.
Handheld mode is a necessary compromise but still effective. Lower GPU...
CD Projekt exec says "the right thing to do" is release a real Nintendo Switch 2 cartridge for Cyberpunk 2077, not a game-key card, in message to other studios: "Do not underestimate the physical edition"
"I don't think we'll soon experience a reality where we're just having all games digital"
Trailer Game Dev Hardware Thread 'IGN: How CD Projekt Red Got Cyberpunk 2077 Running on Switch 2'
armazing they just sent dev kits out the third parties are coming
insider-gaming.com
Cyberpunk 2077 On Nintendo Switch 2 Runs At 40 FPS, Costs $70
CD Projekt Red has confirmed that Cyberpunk 2077 on Nintendo Switch 2 will cost $70 when it releases on June 5.
insider-gaming.com
Cyberpunk 2077 Looks and Runs Much Better on Nintendo Switch 2 Than Steam Deck, New Footage Confirms
New Cyberpunk 2077 footage shared online highlights how the demanding game will look and run better on Nintendo Switch 2 than Steam Deck.
wccftech.com
As we all know, the NWS2 is a cheap piece of shit barely more powerful than a gameboy black and white.
Should Valve discount the Steam Deck now to keep up with the NSW2?
Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, Final Fantasy VII Remake and Duskbloods all run at 30 FPS on Switch 2 - IG News
Update from April 3, 2025 at 3:20 p.m. IGN has revealed in a new article that the Switch 2 will finally support DLSS. The same goes for ray tracing. Original…
news.instant-gaming.com
MOD NOTE: Use spoiler tags please. No one wants to scroll through all that
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Dampf
To answer the question: To compensate for the heavily increased GPU clocks.
Nevertheless, just like Switch 1, there is a burst mode to 1.7 Ghz for brief amounts of time.
This isn't new, by the way. Since the Wii, Nintendo favors having modern GPU's over modern or fast CPU's. The Wii used a 1997-based G3 processor, the Wii U had IBM go back to their archives to make the Espresso, which is quite 3 Wii CPU's taped together. The Switch had A57 ARM, but low clocked and no match for even PS360 CPU's.
Now with 8x A78, Low clocks is again the chip on the console's shoulder. But the GPU supports everything you need to know. Just like Switch 1, and just like Wii U relatively to its competition. The Wii GPU is the only real outlier, by sticking to Geforce 2 like texture combiners in an age of unified shaders or hell, even shaders in general.
Also heh at that Gigabowser ban.
Skifi28
Member
With PT maybe, otherwise the game is rather old and scales very well on lower end hardware. Hardly demanding these days.
Windom Earle
Member
Noooo Bowser Sisters I don't feel so good
TBiddy
Member
Why the fuck are you writing like that? Jesus christ.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Wonder why all the comparatives with Deck was using SW2 docked mode. 
2 words. Sony Refunds.
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The PSP released 20-21 years ago in 2005 in NA and Europe. In Japan 2004.
wafflecioccy
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What
wafflecioccy
Member
I know. It wasn't a serious comment.
Mozza
Member
Why do the haters on here keep trying to pick holes with the Switch 2 and keep making salty threads. That would be a much better question lol..I understand why it'd be running low in handheld mode, to save battery life.
But c'mon, 1 GHz is so low you can't expect good performnce out of the CPU at these clock speeds, even on power efficient ARM.
Curiously enough, the clock speeds in docked mode are actually lower than in handheld mode, you would think it'd be the other way around. Now I also understand why you want them to be similar, because graphics can be scaled more easily between the modes but the CPU performance is a more fixed target. Basically you won't want to have a situation where a game could run in docked mode but couldn't in handheld mode.
However, take a look how Cyberpunk shipped:
It's obvious some developers don't care about abysmal performance.
In my opinion, Nintendo should add a mode where they heavily overclock the CPU in docked mode, to atleast 2 GHz or higher for titles like that, that would help immensely. Handheld will continue to run shitty like that but atleast in docked mode it would run decently.
Of course I don't know the thermal headroom they have in docked mode but I'd assume the temperatures are pretty low due to the additional fan. I think the charger also delivers up to 60W which should be more than enough.
Skifi28
Member
The game runs on mobile chips, even my ancient 1060 could run it at playable framerates. It's a last generation game. Without PT, it's not much of a benchmark these days.
wafflecioccy
Member
What
Windom Earle
Member
What
Skifi28
Member
Are you having a stroke? Should I call someone?
naguanatak
Member
Noooo Bowser Sisters I don't feel so good
Finally. Should be banned until the end of the switch 2 life cycle imo
diffusionx
Gold Member
You can't compare clock speeds of two different CPUs, it's not 1993 (actually you couldn't really do it even back then).
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Just play Pokémon and Mario on it like a normal Nintendo cultist.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
You are supposed to know he has a condition.
I wasn't linked to the post that would say which condition, but there you go.
But given in the reasoning it says its a shtick, it may very well be a spiel. In which case, that's very annoying.
CP is a game that over the years has become more scalable as newer GPU's came along. However even the regular RT (non-Overdrive) mode still provides quite a punch and its one of the few games with large geometry and pedastrian density.
Hence its a benchmark.
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TBiddy
Member
It seems way to weird to be a condition. It's just his way of getting attention.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
x86 handheld PCs CPUs run at 2+GHz and don't burn hands but that ARM CPU will burn houses??
wafflecioccy
Member
GPU draws power too
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
and?
Buggy Loop
Member
Really?
Just the heat sink of those PC handhelds is thicker than switch 2
No fucking shit Sherlock
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Not the consumer fault if Nintendo didn't give a good heat sink.
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RodriGames40
Member
Just like with the Tegra X1, you can definitely tell this is an Nvidia SoC. Relatively shit CPU, fantastic GPU. One thing though OP, the CPU can officially go all the way up to 1.7 ghz so... All they'd need to do is to unlock that profile docked, that's more realistic if I have to say.
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Buggy Loop
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It's a slim form factor, they designed around it
What a stupid fucking comment
Go laptop form factor while we're at it, why would I pick downclocked PC handhelds?
Oh why not a tower?
onnextflix5
Member
It's on 8 Samsung node, u can't expect much, if it was on tsmc 7nm, there would have big improvement in performance, Nintendo being Nintendo, they love penny pinching.
wafflecioccy
Member
bruh.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Handheld PCs are slim enough plus have better grip. Why not design close enough and not suck in clock/heat aspect??It's a slim form factor, they designed around it
What a stupid fucking comment
Go laptop form factor while we're at it, why would I pick downclocked PC handhelds?
Oh why not a tower?
Buggy Loop
Member
Good for you! Buy it.
Slim enough... lol
They balanced everything for the form factor and LPDDR5x bandwidth limitations
Which clearly every other PC handhelds outside Steam deck fucked up big time. Doesn't matter those high clocks, they're starving on bandwidth. Super inefficient. They're engineering jokes, totally unbalanced, a shitload of computational power left idle. Too much compute for what it can feed. There's no "Steam deck 2" until memory has a huge boost, or you have APUs with tons of cache.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Already bought it and yes, it is slim enough without sucking in clocks/heat.Good for you! Buy it.
Slim enough... lol
They balanced everything for the form factor and LPDDR5x bandwidth limitations
Which clearly every other PC handhelds outside Steam deck fucked up big time. Doesn't matter those high clocks, they're starving on bandwidth. Super inefficient. They're engineering jokes, totally unbalanced, a shitload of computational power left idle. Too much compute for what it can feed. There's no "Steam deck 2" until memory has a huge boost, or you have APUs with tons of cache.
Of course those higher clocks matter. In Both PCs and SWs they increase performance!!! Nintendo should give an option.
Buggy Loop
Member
The switch 2 is what it is, can you live with it? No probably not and you'll never buy it.
So the question is can you stop coming into Switch 2 threads like a Jehovah witness trying to promote trash PC handhelds? Or is that impossible?
PaintTinJr
Member
From all the media videos I've passively seen, frustums/Draw distances look setup like Vita games compared to typical PS4 home console renders IMO, and lots of items look like they are statically lit immediately outside the foreground on Switch 1 and 2 game versions, and lots of facet edges on random items too.
Maybe it is just early days and development pipelines are still too much in Switch 1 development, but even with Switch 2 ports having performance issues they also still look like they aren't carrying a full home console workload, yet IMO.