Snake Pass, and how a bad home menu icon drags down my enjoyment of a game

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The few that haven't done this look tacky and cheap, like smartphone apps, which is probably what Nintendo was trying to avoid when making that advice.

Bingo bullseye.

If you check the OP of this thread, Snake Pass had it right originally, but then they changed the icon in a patch.

Which is even crazier.
I was on the fence about the game but seeing how trash it would look on my dashboard it just makes the decision for me.

I was so disappointed with Retro City Rampage and it's crap icon.
Why would you not want your game to look nice?
Come on guys... I was really interested in their new title coming out but if its going to be a wordless icon of an old man crotch right there in my recently played... I just... ick...


You can put up with stuff but if the option is there to look nice or be crap, why pick crap?
Like- I looove my vita, but the bubble interface with a crappy pic and text underneath...
Barf.

Don't be barf.
 
Has anybody mentioned 'Enter the Gungeon' on PS4? I really don't like that icon.

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That said, a bad icon will never bother me that much for a game. Sure, it's no eye candy, but if it can still launch the game, I don't really care unless it's like, grotesque.
 
sanfcv ovsimpzb,

agreed. Also I don't love the Splatoon 2 icon?

I was kind of disappointed that they didn't just go with Splatoon 2's box art for its home screen icon, it's pretty nice, being very colorful and dense, and it's the only Nintendo game that doesn't just use the box art. At least it still adheres to the guidelines or whatever, though.
 
I'm more OK with the Sonic Mania icon because:

1) It wasn't originally something better and than changed in a patch to something worse, like Snake Pass did

and

2) Even though it's missing a title, at least there's "detail" by way of the colored lines filling up the empty space
 
The ๖ۜBronx;246531296 said:
Not as a picture on its own, but as a library icon it's no better than any of the others shown here. This has been discussed quite a bit on the other pages if you wanted to contribute or see the other side of it all.

I've been on this thread discussing the original Snake Pass Icon (Which I hate), didn't know you guys were discussing the Sonic Mania Icon too before this page.

I still don't think the Sonic one is that bad tho, I kinda like it.
 
I have to admit I noticed the changed and I didnt appreciate how they changed it to look like some homebrew shit in the system launcher.
 
I have to admit I noticed the changed and I didnt appreciate how they changed it to look like some homebrew shit in the system launcher.

It'd be nice if the devs can't/won't change it to not look tacky and cheap Nintendo would put in a 'choose/edit an icon' option or SOMETHING....

My Switch is nice and I want it to look nice.
I would honestly rather just have a semi-lazy title graphic (like lego city) than just picture with no wording like a cheesy cheap ass app.
This is not my kids $30 tablet.
 
I don't understand how someone can like Sonic Mania icon and not Snake Pass one.

Same expression, same posture, same angle. Both are minimalist that it could work as little icons on smartphones o bubbles on Vita, but they are terrible when icons occupy 25% of the screen. If, besides, they break the pattern, look even worse.

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I still don't think the Sonic one is that bad tho, I kinda like it.
It's a nice piece of artwork, don't get me wrong, it's just poor as a library icon in the context of the Switch library. I'm not talking about whether it's pretty I'm talking about it's lack of consistency and disregard of accessibility standards. Not that I've focused on Sonic Mania, most of the examples in the thread are as bad as each other because they fail that very basic litmus test.
 
I don't understand how someone can like Sonic Mania icon and not Snake Pass one.

I mean, the Snake Pass one is just plain ugly — the Sonic Mania one is at least nice to look at. But like The ๖ۜBronx wrote, that doesn't make it a good icon.
 
I've done my research and the complete list of icons without logo is:

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- Human Resource Machine
- Little Inferno
- Snake Pass (It will be update)
- Voez
- The Jackbox Party Pack 3
- Plantera DX
- De Mambo
- Implosion
- Retro City Rampage DX
- Severed
- Sonic Mania
- Kingdom: New Lands (It will be updated)
- Semispheres
- SteamWorld Dig 2 (It will be updated)
- Lego Ninjago Movie Video Game
- Pankapu
- Brave Dungeon + Dark Witch's Story: COMBAT
- Conga Master Party!
 
They're retroactively doing this to movies on digital platforms and rereleases, and I hate it.

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Surfing through animation in particular, it's a sea of singular faces on flat colors.
 
Why couldn't that Lego Worlds one just be posted here where at least all of the baseline responses have already been addressed. That thread is just a sea of ignorance to endure.
 
The ๖ۜBronx;247764818 said:
Why couldn't that Lego Worlds one just be posted here where at least all of the baseline responses have already been addressed. That thread is just a sea of ignorance to endure.

I agree but I think there's a few more people that saw that thread and not this one and agree that it's bad, so it wasn't a complete waste.
 
If you took a poll here, you'd see.
This is not an upgrade just because it's official box art with a name.
It's ugly.

The original icon was just bad. I am pretty indifferent towards the current icon but the original conveyed nothing and wasn't even immediately identifiable as Lego so the new icon is a definite improvement.
 
I don't understand how someone can like Sonic Mania icon and not Snake Pass one.

Same expression, same posture, same angle. Both are minimalist that it could work as little icons on smartphones o bubbles on Vita, but they are terrible when icons occupy 25% of the screen. If, besides, they break the pattern, look even worse.

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Wow, those two icons really do stick out among the pack.
 
Guys, proof that this sort of thing works, the LEGO Worlds icon is being updated!
That's awesome to see, great news.

If you took a poll here, you'd see.
This is not an upgrade just because it's official box art with a name.
It's ugly.
Except the popularity of an icon has no bearing on its function or purpose in the context it's being displayed. We're not discussing whether the icon is 'pretty' because that's not the primary purpose of a library icon or tile.
 
While we're at it, can we also talk about the huge dropoff in quality off the boxart in mario and luigi?

In the US for the first two games, they had great boxart that made the games look like epic adventures.

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Then starting with Bowser's inside story, they started using the boring, lame japanese boxart that makes the games look generic.
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While we're at it, can we also talk about the huge dropoff in quality off the boxart in mario and luigi?

I don't mind the bottom set as tiles for like the Switch, but if that's the extent of the box art then yeh, I like the originals. Imaginative and go well with the feeling of what you're getting yourself into. They're enticing.
 
Every time I see this thread pop up I'm like yiss finally...?

but then heartbreak

'least Lego one is being fixed. Looking good!
Yeah, it's a bummer that Sumo Digital hasn't fixed the Snake Pass icon. I have to wonder if they're doubling down because they find constructive criticism to be obnoxious, even when it's made in good faith by people who love their game. Ah well.

On the flip side, it's great that awareness is being raised and we've seen two or three companies now fix their icons. Hopefully others will be swayed to heed Nintendo's advice and make presentable icons for future titles, as well.

One upcoming title that concerns me is Skyrim, which I suspect will have a simple black square with the silver symbol, as per the box art. But I'm not sure what else they'd use. Not sure I've seen a key visual for the game other than the silver symbol.
 
The ๖ۜBronx;247998485 said:
Except the popularity of an icon has no bearing on its function or purpose in the context it's being displayed. We're not discussing whether the icon is 'pretty' because that's not the primary purpose of a library icon or tile.
I know I struggle mightily to load Sonic because I get confused to where it is on the UI.
 
I know I struggle mightily to load Sonic because I get confused to where it is on the UI.
We may very well have multiple Sonic titles on the Switch within a year of Mania's release. In fact, Sonic Forces is also out this year. It's going to look pretty messy if you have multiple Sonic heads floating around your Switch home menu with no name to distinguish them.

There's a simple way to solve this, of course, which is by following Nintendo's own recommendation that icons have a key visual and the title.
 
While we're at it, can we also talk about the huge dropoff in quality off the boxart in mario and luigi?

In the US for the first two games, they had great boxart that made the games look like epic adventures.

absol81jujruz82lhbsk.png



Then starting with Bowser's inside story, they started using the boring, lame japanese boxart that makes the games look generic.
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mario-luigi-superstar-saga-bowsers-minions-boxart.jpg

Although the second one in Japan had a slight difference with the rest of the series in regards to Mario & Luigi's pose.


Here's the first one in Japan too for reference.

 
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