so i wanna move to japan and/or s.korea

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OP, I heard its really beautiful in Laos. Try moving there I guess? Ask neogaf for advice (of course in a new thread so we keep everything neat and orderly).
 

TwIsTeD

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If your even remotely able to afford this kind of thing then spending a few grand traveling to each country is the correct answer.

If you cant afford this then your not going anywhere.
 
I could list many, many reasons, but most of them are boring and have to do with having a family and career. But the poster above me summed up quick and simple with some pretty valid points. I realize on gaf most people want to go to Japan for gamez and animez but there are plenty of us who didn't give a fuck about that stuff when we made the decision to move our lives there.

so what are some other 'boring' reasons? Haven't heard of any one actually making decent wages over there, and i heard work is pretty intense.

what are the benefits of having a family there?
 
If you're from the US I'd switch nationalities with you in a heartbeat.

You know, I am fluent in a foreign language, and I used to live abroad. And just last week, I got hit with that 'I'm over it" moment. Basically, I no longer wish to live in a foreign country just for the sake of doing it.

Now, if I had a chance to advance my career to do it, then maybe... but I dunno... If you got a good job, insurance, and perspective, USA is a pretty great place to live. You will hear a lot of crazy shit, but I've never seen anything of the sort, if I were honest. I've never seen a gun fired outside of a closed range, and even then, it's only once. I've never seen a murder or assault, I've never been robbed... been burglarized once, but I got robbed (figuratively speaking) way more in the one year I lived abroad. So, I just let it slide.

As bad as it may look and feel sometimes... I guess it's home now. SO NO DEAL... (Unless you are from the UK. then we might talk... lol)
 

slit

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If your even remotely able to afford this kind of thing then spending a few grand traveling to each country is the correct answer.

If you cant afford this then your not going anywhere.

Not true.

He could still move down the street and pretend he lives in South Korea.
 

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so what are some other 'boring' reasons? Haven't heard of any one actually making decent wages over there, and i heard work is pretty intense.

what are the benefits of having a family there?

Define decent wages. On gaf, most people think making 35k a year is a decent wage. I think it's paltry. However, there are places in Japan where that's plenty of money to get by. Actually, probably 90% of Japan is like that, with only the major metropolis type cities requiring a higher cost of living. Most of the English teacher in Asia crowd here on gaf probably made about that much and I'm sure they have plenty of stories of how it was plenty. Let's say when I first went there, I made more than that, and as the many years have gone by, I make quite a lot, especially since I got temporarily transferred back here to the east coast. It depends on the field and experience, of course.

As for work, in what country does a good life not require hard work? We just had a thread where Europeans went to town on Americans for only having 10 vacation days a year, but I don't think anyone would even categorize America as an easy working country. Japan does put a lot of emphasis on work, but as always, the situation depends and there's also a sense of community and camaraderie promoted in the workplace that I think a lot of Western cultures lack (I've lived in the states and central Europe for reference).

In terms of family, I've spent the majority of my marriage/parenthood there, but having been back in the states for the last year, the difference is really night and day. The attention and care put into having a child, for instance, is so much different than here. The amount of time the mother stays in the hospital, the amount of guidance and follow-ups she receives from the doctors/city, the relative fees for all of this, the monthly stipend from the government, the free health care, the excellent nursery/pre-school system, the excellent school systems (in general, and depending on location as anywhere else). Those stand out to me, personally. They might not be big points for others, and there are of course other countries that offer very similar benefits, but my point of comparison would be America right now. There are more reasons that I can get into if you're more interested. I admit when the earthquake hit us it wasn't the best of times economically, but I can get behind Abenomics for the time being.
 

Carlisle

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Ah..living the Nova calamity. Memories.

You too? Wow, yeah that was an interesting time no doubt. Another few weeks unemployed and I'd have booked my trip home. Most of my expat friends did, but I toughed it out as much as I could. Thankfully I was in Nagoya so we were in the first group to go back to work for G Communication.

Don't mean to hijack the thread! I don't think I've come across any Nova alums from that time though. Crazy!
 

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You too? Wow, yeah that was an interesting time no doubt. Another few weeks unemployed and I'd have booked my trip home. Most of my expat friends did, but I toughed it out as much as I could. Thankfully I was in Nagoya so we were in the first group to go back to work for G Communication.

Don't mean to hijack the thread! I don't think I've come across any Nova alums from that time though. Crazy!

Oh, no, I wasn't an English teacher. I just meant watching them all scramble around town, or having friends ask me if I had jobs for their friends (yeah right). Makeshift signs taped to the school doors. A rush of foreigners at Hello Work too lol. It was a strange situation for sure.
 

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South Africa. I don't ride a bus. I've never ridden a bus. I've never been on a train. I've never been in a taxi.


Maybe this isn't the only thing she lied about. Maybe Korea sucks and she just wants me to move there so that she's happy.

She wants you to move there? Would cramp her K-dating style.
 
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Is it possible to get a sales/marketing/advertising job in Japan assuming you are fluent or am I just wasting my time getting experience in the wrong field? BTW I am almost 30 lived in Japan before and just back in America to get the relevant business experience so I can return there in 3 years or so with a real job.

Assuming you have the proper Japanese language skills, yes, it's entirely possible.

My first job out of university, when I was 23, was at a large Japanese company in Tokyo working in their sales department. I ended up doing a lot of translation/interpretation work while I was there, though.
 

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Assuming you have the proper Japanese language skills, yes, it's entirely possible.

My first job out of university, when I was 23, was at a large Japanese company in Tokyo working in their sales department. I ended up doing a lot of translation/interpretation work while I was there, though.

This can def be a hole you fall into.
 
One day I'm gonna visit Japan.

How easy (or hard) is it to get a job teaching English? It is high in demand with few people to do it? Or are opportunities to do it scarce now? What kind of qualifications do you need?
 

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One day I'm gonna visit Japan.

How easy (or hard) is it to get a job teaching English? It is high in demand with few people to do it? Or are opportunities to do it scarce now? What kind of qualifications do you need?

From my experience with people I knew, turnover is high in the industry minus the few lifers, and it' not relatively difficult to move around from school to school. Most people who don't get JET just go private. Go on gaijinpot and you'll most likely find some. Qualifications..lol..a 4 year degree. In anything. Anything.
 

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Parakeetman

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Why go to Korea? Go to China, it's the candidate for the next superpower.

If you do be sure to tell everyone you meet that you are a spy for the US. Since chicks love spies! Locals give discounts too. You can totally live the James Bond lifestyle!
 
From my experience with people I knew, turnover is high in the industry minus the few lifers, and it' not relatively difficult to move around from school to school. Most people who don't get JET just go private. Go on gaijinpot and you'll most likely find some. Qualifications..lol..a 4 year degree. In anything. Anything.

What's JET?

And what do you mean just a 4 year degree? I assume you need to pass fluency tests in English and Japanese.
 

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What's JET?

And what do you mean just a 4 year degree? I assume you need to pass fluency tests in English and Japanese.

JET is a government run program to bring people over to become Charisma Mans and Harassed Womans.

I mean a 4 year degree. Fluency tests. Lawlz. I've met some fuckin "teachers" in my time there that just knocked me off my feet with how bad their English was, or I should say they weren't native speakers yet still some how got jobs pretending to be one.
 

caesar

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What's JET?

And what do you mean just a 4 year degree? I assume you need to pass fluency tests in English and Japanese.

JET is the Japan Exchange and Teaching program. You need native level English skills, no Japanese skills are required at all. (On JET at least)
 
JET is a government run program to bring people over to become Charisma Mans and Harassed Womans.

I mean a 4 year degree. Fluency tests. Lawlz. I've met some fuckin "teachers" in my time there that just knocked me off my feet with how bad their English was, or I should say they weren't native speakers yet still some how got jobs pretending to be one.

I don't get how you can teach English in Japan without fluency in either. Wut....

Oh my god why do more people not do this job after they can't find anything after college? What kind of healthcare system does Japan have? Single payer?
 
I'll be in Japan in November (also working on the official Going to Japan OT) and I'm very excited to see the country with my own eyes. It's actually a little frightening. One of my best friends is moving there in October to work at a conversation school in Saitama and I'm visiting her. It will be interesting to see what she thinks about life there. I don't know if I want to live there but we'll see after I visit.
 

Been job hunting earlier this year. this turns on bells for me. Must be the site design and design choices, dont know lol.


Is school systems in japan as scary as it is on the news? Like people turning a blind eye on bullying, and try to hide away suicides and what not.
 

MrKnives

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Move to Seoul. Work as a teacher if you can.

Great city.

But like people have said. Research and be sure and prepare before you do anything.
 

Hoodbury

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South Africa. I don't ride a bus. I've never ridden a bus. I've never been on a train. I've never been in a taxi.

Ah, completely different world I guess. So I'm curious, if you were to ride a public bus and it was full and you were sitting down and a little old lady got on the bus would you offer her your seat or not?
 
I don't get how you can teach English in Japan without fluency in either. Wut....

Oh my god why do more people not do this job after they can't find anything after college? What kind of healthcare system does Japan have? Single payer?
Not everyone gets accepted I have two friends, one was an English major and the other a JPN major, they both didn't get accepted. I've heard it's hard to get in, but I never actually tried...well, since I'm still attending college. But any country in Asia usually take anyone to teach English if they have that 4 year degree. Hell, there's a program in Korea that even takes an associates. I'm pretty sure neogaf has a thread dedicated to teaching English in Asia. Look at that if you're interested in it.
 
Fuck South Korea,, emic. Move to Laos if you're bored. That'll be a change of pace.

Or thailand. It's overflowing with ~pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~
 
I'm actually a little offended that this joker made two nearly identical threads without even bothering to capitalize his "i"

NeoGAF deserves a little better than that, IMO. At least there was some Mod justice in combining the threads.
 
Not everyone gets accepted I have two friends, one was an English major and the other a JPN major, they both didn't get accepted. I've heard it's hard to get in, but I never actually tried...well, since I'm still attending college. But any country in Asia usually take anyone to teach English if they have that 4 year degree. Hell, there's a program in Korea that even takes an associates. I'm pretty sure neogaf has a thread dedicated to teaching English in Asia. Look at that if you're interested in it.

I think that I may want to do that with my life if biology/zoology falls through.
 

Jackben

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Put a little more effort in your posts OP instead of taking two dumps on the OT when one thread would have sufficed.
 

Parakeetman

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Been job hunting earlier this year. this turns on bells for me. Must be the site design and design choices, dont know lol.


Is school systems in japan as scary as it is on the news? Like people turning a blind eye on bullying, and try to hide away suicides and what not.

Thats like asking is the US a warzone with people constantly shooting each other in the streets all the time? Or the UK where you might get your head lopped off by maniacs with cleavers.

Use a little common sense mate.
 
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