He's mentioned in MGS.
So if Solid Snake and Solidus are both clones...
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He's mentioned in MGS.
"No sir, no one knows you are the third one, Solidus".
That's what Ocelot says at MGS's epilogue call.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
He became disillusioned and retreated to Alaska after Zanzibar in 1999. Solidus was elected in either 2000 or 2004.
He didn't vote period.
People in Alaska vote too you know.
They are always worried about the president's foreign policy cause they can see Russia from their houses.
In my mind, Solid watched TV one day and saw this candidate that looked familiar. Decided to vote for that guy because why not, and mushed his dogs for a week to vote.
re: spoilers. Technically this title is a spoiler for the ending of MGS1
But even back then it was a lame spoiler. When you reach the epilogue and hear Ocelot calling someone "Solidus" you could not avoid groaning on the poor name choosing.
They are always worried about the president's foreign policy cause they can see Russia from their houses.
In my mind, Solid watched TV one day and saw this candidate that looked familiar. Decided to vote for that guy because why not, and mushed his dogs for a week to vote.
re: spoilers. Technically this title is a spoiler for the ending of MGS1
But even back then it was a lame spoiler. When you reach the epilogue and hear Ocelot calling someone "Solidus" you could not avoid groaning on the poor name choosing.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
I really hope, that if they ever make a prequel Snake in alaska just before the shadow moses incident, that we can fight sarah palin. She would be a pretty cool boss to fight!
These threads always make me think of this. I loved MGS2, but the plot got a lilll bittt crazy.
These threads always make me think of this. I loved MGS2, but the plot got a lilll bittt crazy.
Was it really? I remember old material saying that Big Boss was a celebrity and even went on to tv shows?
Maybe I am wrong.
edit: the MGS4 encyclopedia backs me
I can see that.
Tonight, we have a great guest! Big Boss! He will teach us how to kill a man with the blunt end of a knife.
Ok I've never heard this before.
silvermember
Banned
He was but his betray wasn't public.
Solidus is a perfect clone. Snake has all the recessive genes.
Better than gaseous snake.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Snake was on a bender and racing sled dogs in alaska. He didn't give a fuck.
He doesn't shop, he hunts.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
But Snake looks exactly like Big Boss.
Okay, how about when he is shopping for beer.
No one would make that connection unless they were taking a really good look at both of them.
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Xpike
Unconfirmed Member
is this something people do? going up to strangers and being "o hey, you kinda look like this famous person if he was younger!"?
Also, about the original question, Old Snake also looked quite a bit like Big Boss, who had experienced a resurgence in popularity thanks to the Snake Eater files being declassified, yet no one except Eva and Ocelot ever comment on it.
No one would make that connection unless they were taking a really good look at both of them.
I don't see why they wouldn't. I get random ass comments about looking like a certain singer and we're no where close to being identical. The president of the US is a huge figure and the beard and mullet doesn't hide how much they look alike that much.
Yep, see above.
Exactly so they wouldn't look exactly a like.
Moonshine my friend.
silvermember
Banned
It might be a simple case of not being relevant. At the time very few knew about liquid why would snake or anybody make the connection between George Sears and snake, not even liquid did and he knew about the minor details of the cloning.
This is just a case of hindsight is 20/20. Who would think to question why a president with a highly doctored background, I mean his war crimes were certainly wiped by patriots, that probably removed or hide any logical connection to him and snake be related to snake?
Let me ask you thinks how many of you guys figured out the secret of the body in mgs4 without the revelation?
This is just a case of hindsight is 20/20. Who would think to question why a president with a highly doctored background, I mean his war crimes were certainly wiped by patriots, that probably removed or hide any logical connection to him and snake be related to snake?
Let me ask you thinks how many of you guys figured out the secret of the body in mgs4 without the revelation?
It does, in my experience. A change in hair style, color and facial hair can completely change the way a person looks. Combine that with the fact that Solidus looks much older and most people would never think they look anything alike.
Toilet paper!
Unless Snake wipes his ass with leaves. I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
Cigarette packs.
ichtyander
Member
Regarding looks, Old Snake and Big Boss still look different enough in MGS4 (I suppose one of the reasons would be avoiding a silly situation where you're not sure who you're looking at):
So Solidus during his presidential years would look almost exactly the same as Big Boss does in MGS4, maybe just slightly younger and without the beard, judging by Yoji Shinkawa's drawings during the MGS2 cutscenes.
To me, it's all just a silly excuse to have a badass US president, 90s action flicks style so I'm fine with it, even though it's pretty ridiculous (but then what isn't in the MGS universe).
So Solidus during his presidential years would look almost exactly the same as Big Boss does in MGS4, maybe just slightly younger and without the beard, judging by Yoji Shinkawa's drawings during the MGS2 cutscenes.
To me, it's all just a silly excuse to have a badass US president, 90s action flicks style so I'm fine with it, even though it's pretty ridiculous (but then what isn't in the MGS universe).
A.Romero
Member
I never got this explanation for Solid Snake's half-Japanese ancestry. I thought it was already confirmed Big Boss himself was half-Japanese.
I was thinking that myself but I can't find any reliable source on that.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
In that case it's just a redundant character detail. Raven confirms it in MGS1 and MGS4 simply outright states how it happened.
RocketRacoon
Member
The egg used to fertilize the twins was from a Japanese woman.
The egg didn't contain any DNA from the egg donor.
He isn't. There isn't many details on his days pre-Snake Eater.
Edit:
From the Metal Gear wiki. If this is true it makes no sense for the egg to be from a Japanese woman.
ichtyander
Member
Yeah, that's seemingly the sum of it. Big Boss barely survived Solid Snake's makeshift flamethrower attack in Zanzibar Land, was kept alive by Zero's nanomachines but announced as dead to the public, tombstone and all. GW had his whereabouts stored, the info was retreived by Raiden and given to EVA aka Big Mama who then used Solidus' brain dead body to patch up Big Boss and kept the rest as a decoy. I suppose the whole "patching up" deal is there to leave Big Boss stable and alive after Zero's nanomachines stop to function, since they were the primary reason BB was kept alive in the first place.
Honestly, I don't think Solid Snake cared about voting.
That's a shitty attitude you've got there, son. Your societal ideals are fucked.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
Also Big Boss had a pretty burly beard, no? And an eyepatch. Solidus only gets it post-grand introduction.
freethought
Member
Sorry, I meant how does it tie into the blood of the east thing.
Yeah, this.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Big Boss must have a massive ego.
Imagine having clones made after you and one is the President, one is a hero and another is...Well, never mind.
Either way, I'd be arrogant as fuck if I were Big Boss. Even his codename is ego boosting, not only is he a boss, he's a big'un.
Imagine having clones made after you and one is the President, one is a hero and another is...Well, never mind.
Either way, I'd be arrogant as fuck if I were Big Boss. Even his codename is ego boosting, not only is he a boss, he's a big'un.
Haunted
Member
"It may seem complex at first - but as it turns out, it's just stupid". :lol
Classic. Basically applies to all MGS writing done over the last decade.
freethought
Member
Yeah, no-one has eeeeeeeeeeever taken the piss out of this.
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTgskfvw2I
ShockingAlberto
Member
I don't think Tina Fey was super confused about her identity when Palin ran for vice president.
Sometimes people who look like you exist.
Sometimes people who look like you exist.
KojiKnight
Member
Pretty sure you need midochondrial DNA, and pretty sure cloning would still use the midochondrial DNA of the egg.
Leithkorias
Member
Here's one for you, when colonel campbell shows snake liquids photo, Why the hell did snake cut and dye his hair? You'd think looking exactly like liquid would have been an advantage in a stealth mission......
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Snake couldn't even tell that Miller was Liquid.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
I like to think Kaz is the forgotten quadruplet. Or maybe at this point everyone looks like Snake. Just look at Johnny "Akiba" Sasaski.