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So, uh...is anyone playing Red Faction: Armageddon? |OT by default|
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Fox Mulder
Member
I have no interest in what this game ended up being. Hopefully Volition didn't fuck up Saints Row.
Net_Wrecker
Member
They lost me when the lost the open world guerrilla fighting and made the protagonist a bald space dude fighting aliens.
SkyMasterson
Member
lol, bravo OP.
I played the demo and man, like, I finished it, but wtf were they thinking?
Hopefully this means a reboot is in store and they can bring the series back to being a FPS.
I played the demo and man, like, I finished it, but wtf were they thinking?
Hopefully this means a reboot is in store and they can bring the series back to being a FPS.
jaundicejuice
Member
Red Faction: Armageddon is fun as hell. Really inventive weapons, an awesome amount of destructibility and with the more unique environments that come from having a linear structure, the only thing it's missing is Red Faction 1's environment destruction but it makes up for it with Nano-Forge re-construction and combat abilities.
Secks4Food
Member
I played the first half hour of the game on OnLive (is there a real PC demo yet?), just some thoughts:
-No personality, just the most generic protagonist with the most generic, robotic voice in the ear fighting against the most generic "rise up and fight, my children" cult leader. You'd be hard pressed to find less inspired characters if you tried.
-Destruction seems far less useful. So far it has just been a pretty destructible intro sequence (where there's literally no point to destroy anything besides that which is required by the game) followed by corridors where destruction just makes you fall through the floor.
-Seems short, I was 8% done less than 25 mins into the demo, that could be a blessing in disguise though.
-Not open world, this is all personal preference but I love open world games and most of what I loved about Guerrilla was possible because of the open nature of the game. Some people like the corridors though so eh.
+Weapons are cool, I'd pay ten bucks for magnet gun DLC for Guerrilla before I'd ever buy this game though. Using the nano forge to punch the fuck out of something is pretty fun, sledgehammer (or "maul"...HARDCORE) is still a lot of fun to use.
I'll buy it for $5 some day if I have nothing better to do, a far cry from one of my top 20 games of the generation: Red Faction Guerrilla. Sorry Volition, but that's the way the turd tumbles.
-No personality, just the most generic protagonist with the most generic, robotic voice in the ear fighting against the most generic "rise up and fight, my children" cult leader. You'd be hard pressed to find less inspired characters if you tried.
-Destruction seems far less useful. So far it has just been a pretty destructible intro sequence (where there's literally no point to destroy anything besides that which is required by the game) followed by corridors where destruction just makes you fall through the floor.
-Seems short, I was 8% done less than 25 mins into the demo, that could be a blessing in disguise though.
-Not open world, this is all personal preference but I love open world games and most of what I loved about Guerrilla was possible because of the open nature of the game. Some people like the corridors though so eh.
+Weapons are cool, I'd pay ten bucks for magnet gun DLC for Guerrilla before I'd ever buy this game though. Using the nano forge to punch the fuck out of something is pretty fun, sledgehammer (or "maul"...HARDCORE) is still a lot of fun to use.
I'll buy it for $5 some day if I have nothing better to do, a far cry from one of my top 20 games of the generation: Red Faction Guerrilla. Sorry Volition, but that's the way the turd tumbles.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Elixist said:
I will say this, and it's a little bit of a spoiler:
You hit the surface and head to Dust, and that level is outstanding. The sheer chaos that is going on is something to behold.
The problem is that too much of first half of the game is a cave crawl. This is not a bad game, but IT IS a step back from Guerilla...which is pretty frustrating. I see what they were trying to do, but I disagree with their decision.
Dog Problems
Banned
jaundicejuice said:
I completely agree with all of this. Also, I personally am happy to see the open world gone.
MrDanger88
Member
LastWindow said:
Sure. I'm sure sales and player opinions will disagree with you, but sure.
AgentOtaku
Member
Played some more:
Yes, the playground-combat set pieces are the main hook here (at least I haven't hit the Descent sections yet) and they're huge fucking fun! ....the problem is that it's a game that what you put into it is what you get out of it. If you want to run into a combat scenario and just shoot da aliens and move on, you can do that ...but it's gonna be fairly boring.
USE EVERYTHING IN YOUR ARSENAL!
The magnet gun, your nano force push, your hammer. There is enough there along with the environments that you use against the enemy on a continual bases, that you will never get bored. Your creativity is the limit.
Once again let me reiterate how much i'm enjoying the music. It's like a cross between ambient electronica and a very faint hit of something like Vangelis. It's pretty understated, but freaking good and REALLY set's the tone. Much more than the music in Guerilla EVER did.
Also, i'm really loving the cramped, cavernous environments. Ominous, alien, and foreboding.
I think this game FEELS Sci-fi through and through. Volition represent!
This game deserves a proper thread, not a condescending one with people queing up to just shit on the game and not give it a chance...
Yes, the playground-combat set pieces are the main hook here (at least I haven't hit the Descent sections yet) and they're huge fucking fun! ....the problem is that it's a game that what you put into it is what you get out of it. If you want to run into a combat scenario and just shoot da aliens and move on, you can do that ...but it's gonna be fairly boring.
USE EVERYTHING IN YOUR ARSENAL!
The magnet gun, your nano force push, your hammer. There is enough there along with the environments that you use against the enemy on a continual bases, that you will never get bored. Your creativity is the limit.
Once again let me reiterate how much i'm enjoying the music. It's like a cross between ambient electronica and a very faint hit of something like Vangelis. It's pretty understated, but freaking good and REALLY set's the tone. Much more than the music in Guerilla EVER did.
Also, i'm really loving the cramped, cavernous environments. Ominous, alien, and foreboding.
I think this game FEELS Sci-fi through and through. Volition represent!
This game deserves a proper thread, not a condescending one with people queing up to just shit on the game and not give it a chance...
jaundicejuice
Member
I don't understand why people are complaining about the aliens exactly. The EDF were milling pylons in Guerrilla, only made dangerous when there was a seriously large amount of them. The aliens can leap and bound all over the environment. The combat is much more frenetic, especially when you combine the more inventive arsenal and 'splodey bits of the environment.
samus4ever
Banned
I like this game. Blowing up a building with the cult people and watch it crumble with them in it is always fun. Only 20 percent done so far, but I'm enjoying it more than most games released recently. Ruin mode is a blast. Infection is nice because you can save the wave you ended at and keep going at a later time. Kudos to that feature! I'll defiantly play through the campaign again just to use the special weapon you get at the end of the game.
jaundicejuice
Member
Chiggs said:
If anything the aliens look like Capek's more "successful" nanotech experiments on miners.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
God I have the £ right now I will do this 100%.Keyser Soze said:
I'm sorry dev team its just not what I'm looking for right now.
AgentOtaku
Member
Kuran said:
Like I said, e3 release date was such a mistake IMO. I actually don't mind the character of Darius, but yeah, his design is just too derivative given the times. Shit, they should have really tried something against the grain and I dunno, made him a woman instead. That would have been interesting at least.
I honestly think RF:A was probably in a way Volition's attempt to close the gap between releases as wasn't RF:G like in development for 4+ years including R&D?
revolverjgw
Member
I feel bad but yes this looks like the definition of "LTTP 20 dollar purchase" to me. I'm not really lamenting the change in direction though... I wish I'd waited until Guerrilla dropped before I bought it. Same for RF2. The games may vary wildly in style, but they're all strictly B-grade.
Playing this right now to review, not yet at half but close.
I'm quite disappointed. The game is very repetitive and they killed the atmosphere. The whole revolutionary twist was kind of a trademark of the story and it's killed.
I love the magnet gun but it's overpowered as fuck. It's so overpowered that you'd punish yourself using other weapons. A whole machine gun clip or one magnet shot, you choose?
Also, destruction does not work that well. Because the enemies jump around all the time, it's more effective to just target them and swing them away with the magnet than it is to throw debris over them. Clearly, effectivity and fun are not matched, and that's really a pity.
I love the small parts where the objective just is: destroy building X. And also, the repair ability is really fun, some great tech going on there.
But overall, it feels like a generic shooter. They could have made something great but they didn't succeed. But maybe in the second half of the game it gets better, this is definitely not a definitive opinion.
I'm quite disappointed. The game is very repetitive and they killed the atmosphere. The whole revolutionary twist was kind of a trademark of the story and it's killed.
I love the magnet gun but it's overpowered as fuck. It's so overpowered that you'd punish yourself using other weapons. A whole machine gun clip or one magnet shot, you choose?
Also, destruction does not work that well. Because the enemies jump around all the time, it's more effective to just target them and swing them away with the magnet than it is to throw debris over them. Clearly, effectivity and fun are not matched, and that's really a pity.
I love the small parts where the objective just is: destroy building X. And also, the repair ability is really fun, some great tech going on there.
But overall, it feels like a generic shooter. They could have made something great but they didn't succeed. But maybe in the second half of the game it gets better, this is definitely not a definitive opinion.
Neuromancer
Member
I gave it a chance when I played the demo. That said I'm a charitable man, I'll give it another chance when it becomes a little more affordable. $30 like Lik says sounds appropriate.AgentOtaku said:
Square Triangle
Member
Hated the demo. Hate the direction they've taken the franchise.
Mr. B Natural
Member
Wish they spent their time making a better mp version of guerrilla. One that, hopefully, would keep the user base high enough so I can play it for more than a couple of months.
It had SERIOUS potential to be awesome.
Instead, they took what was pretty much played out from guerrilla and made it worse. Nice.
It had SERIOUS potential to be awesome.
Instead, they took what was pretty much played out from guerrilla and made it worse. Nice.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I hated the open world in Guerrilla so I was hopeful for this, but it doesn't sound much better.
Shame.
Shame.
PumpkinPie
Banned
zoner said:
Mason was also bald though ???
Anyhow, I will definitely buy this game but I'll probably wait for a price drop.
GitarooMan
Member
I noted this in another thread, but I think it's so bizarre that they made the same mistake they made from Red Faction I to Red Faction II where they took a cool setting and premise and made it generic military stuff. That being said, I still will likely check this out eventually.
I stuck it on my gamefly Q when it was first announced, figuring it would be like Guerrilla (which I loved). Suddenly I get a notification that it's been shipped to me, so I look up some info about it, find out it's nothing like guerrilla, and decide gamefly has once again decided to troll me (considering the game was near the bottom of my damn Q).
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I actually really enjoyed it when I got to preview it in January, love the way you can repair stuff, but then my slight OCD kicked in and I would repair everything I broke before moving on. 
Neuromancer
Member
Please add to |OT|:
Red Faction Armageddon Mr. Toots video - it's a unicorn that farts rainbows! Wacky!
Red Faction Armageddon Mr. Toots video - it's a unicorn that farts rainbows! Wacky!
WickedLaharl
Member
i didn't care for the demo at all but gamefly sent me a copy so i guess i'll give it a shot.
would be cool if volition could take the weapons from armageddon and offer them up as DLC for guerrilla.
would be cool if volition could take the weapons from armageddon and offer them up as DLC for guerrilla.
Neuromancer
Member
Thank you.Chiggs said:
GhostBlade
Neo Member
There is a reason the sequel does not have competitive multiplayer. Login to Xbox Live with your copy of Guerrilla and try to find a match. Yeah that is why. It has been like that since like a month after release. Awesome game online, but no one played it. The developers didn't see a need to waste resources building something that no one plays regardless of how good it was.
Mr. B Natural
Member
So give up! That's what someone does when they have something good but isn't super successful the first time. Give up and knock it all down to the bottom denominator.GhostBlade said:
And, in the case of sales, it doesn't really matter how long someone plays something. A sale because it has MP is a sale because it has MP. While usually I hate such a plan, for RF, it would have been a good thing because RF's MP actually had potential, unlike DS2 and Bioshock 2, etc.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
I'll wait for Guerrilla 2.