YuGiOh was great for a while, it had the Shonen formula down pact, but they really drove away the fan base when they decided to put a whole filler season in for little reason. That season about that hax field card that stole your soul and gave you two rows of monsters and other plot devices was so bad, and WB playing with the time slots for the rest of the show did not help.
So what happened to Saturday day morning cartoons? what happened to them?
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MetalAlien said:
The true Saturday morning power house.
You knew they were great when the Friday evening before they would have a 30 min special showcasing the new shows premiering that next morning. It was glorious.
I weep for the children of today, including my three year old son.
Combichristoffersen
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PumpkinPie said:
Johnny Bravo and Dexter's Lab were great (Powerpuff girls was ass tho), but they were admittedly no match for Darkwing Duck, Rescue Rangers, TaleSpin, DuckTales or Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles (no 'Ninja Turtles' for us Europeans).
Modern cartoons are rubbish.
MetalAlien
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GDGF said:
Winona Ryder in cartoon form (Betelgeuse). ..I was a bit old by that time but it was still cool.
MetalAlien
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womp said:
and once the cartoons were over at about 10 or 11, the monster/kung fu movies started. I was useless until about 2 in the afternoon.
VeryGooster
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GDGF said:
Dude. Seriously. :lol
thetechkid
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GDGF said:
Same reason as me.
T.M. MacReady
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ITT: we learn how many gaffers still watch Saturday morning cartoons.
beelzebozo
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Combichristoffersen said:
i love love love dexter, and powerpuff girls, and johnny bravo, but i would never say that they were animated well. i don't blame anyone doing the drawing, though. it's become more clear to me as i read stuff written by john k. and start to understand the way modern animation studios function that the strict adherence to characters staying "on model" and complete inflexibility and not only promoting but demanding a dearth of creativity in the art is choking cartoons to death, and i scarcely even realized it.
but it's not a new thing. look at this page from the filmation guide for animation and tell me it's not depressing.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
beelzebozo said:i love love love dexter, and powerpuff girls, and johnny bravo, but i would never say that they were animated well. i don't blame anyone doing the drawing, though. it's become more clear to me as i read stuff written by john k. and start to understand the way modern animation studios function that the strict adherence to characters staying "on model" and complete inflexibility and not only promoting but demanding a dearth of creativity in the art is choking cartoons to death, and i scarcely even realized it.
but it's not a new thing. look at this page from the filmation guide for animation and tell me it's not depressing.
Don't get me wrong, I love those cartoons too, but I'd have to agree that the animation style was lazy at best, and laughably bad at worst.
beelzebozo
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Combichristoffersen said:
do you read john k.'s blog? i will pimp it forever. if you love animation, it will make you love it even more.
MetalAlien
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GDGF said:
Yea I fell for that cartoon train at first thinking it was another cartoon and then suddenly I felt the need to go outside and play..
Maybe it was certain channels? I remember both the monster movies and Soul Train.Once me and my friends were watching a kung fu movie saturday morning and when the credits started to roll we all just jumped up and started kicking the crap out of each other. Good times!
hydragonwarrior
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lunarworks said:
Truer words have never been spoken. I would always plead with the clock to not make it to 12:00 pm on Saturdays :lol
"Please, a few more minutes of X-men! Pleaaasae!"
SatelliteOfLove
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GDGF said:
Around here it was NWA rasslin'. From Smurfin' and Yo Joein' to Stylin' and Profilin'. :lol
Corwood Rep
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Dexter's Lab is one of my favorite cartoons ever and I still watch it in reruns. Johnny Bravo, Powerpuff Girls and Samurai Jack were pretty great too. Tough for me to complain about their animation when they at least had their own styles and actually looked like cartoons. Kids don't even have that luxury now - it's all flash cartoons absolutely devoid of visual charisma. Characters staying on-model is nothing compared to how goddamn identical and sanitized every last cartoon on TV is now.*
*Adventure Time is good shit though.
*Adventure Time is good shit though.
Captain Howdy
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MetalAlien
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Captain Howdy said:
I watched quite a few of those 80s cartoons. Second half of that clip even more so. Off to look up more Orbots clips.
beelzebozo
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some fun:
MetalAlien
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12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZshZp-cxKg
even better... 1 2 3 with original ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewalHF0T0GY
King of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GOqM18Bhhg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZshZp-cxKg
even better... 1 2 3 with original ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewalHF0T0GY
King of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GOqM18Bhhg
Every time somebody talks about what happend to that part of the business it tears me apart.
I can say however after some retrospection that a lot of infuences some good, some good turned in to ill and some very bad moves have lead into what is going on today.
I can say it started from the 70's but in all reality you have to go back to what happend in the mid 60's. The government felt that the Kid Vid Biz back then had to self control when it came to advertising and such. Mr Rogers stated in his comments to Congress back then (when PBS was starting up in ernest) that he felt that those in the industry were doing a disservice and that PBS should be a stuward and a standerd bearer - for if they lose the funding - he felt that that the next generation was going to be lost.
If you looked at the business back then outside of local product (and the CBS's Captian Kangeroo) - he was right.
In a parodoxical way - the governments crackdown on advertising and such only lead into syndications rise in the early to mid 80's. Without it and expanding of its business - PBS wouldnt have such as a rennasance as it did.
Once the government put on the E/I edict (the formentioned Childrens TV Act of 1990/1991) all bets were off. 20 years after you see the effects. PBS has fallen to the same trap Mr Rogers warned about in 1969. The Otaku's overreaching of the industry (with edits and such) and the exectives reactions to it has split the "geek" world almost to illreversable effects - where there was one aduiance that like diffrent products and projects - theres now millions who only like one and damn the rest. The networks, tired of losing money to cable wanted to cut there losses and move on but the government wanted there quotas. So they got it.
And the kids lose out in the end because even though there are four kids cable networks, 2.2 billion in ad money etc, there hasnt been a certifiable seller outside of Spongebob (and it started around the days Pokemon was popular...)and the only show close to that airs on Sunday nights...
Its just a sad story all around.
I can say however after some retrospection that a lot of infuences some good, some good turned in to ill and some very bad moves have lead into what is going on today.
I can say it started from the 70's but in all reality you have to go back to what happend in the mid 60's. The government felt that the Kid Vid Biz back then had to self control when it came to advertising and such. Mr Rogers stated in his comments to Congress back then (when PBS was starting up in ernest) that he felt that those in the industry were doing a disservice and that PBS should be a stuward and a standerd bearer - for if they lose the funding - he felt that that the next generation was going to be lost.
If you looked at the business back then outside of local product (and the CBS's Captian Kangeroo) - he was right.
In a parodoxical way - the governments crackdown on advertising and such only lead into syndications rise in the early to mid 80's. Without it and expanding of its business - PBS wouldnt have such as a rennasance as it did.
Once the government put on the E/I edict (the formentioned Childrens TV Act of 1990/1991) all bets were off. 20 years after you see the effects. PBS has fallen to the same trap Mr Rogers warned about in 1969. The Otaku's overreaching of the industry (with edits and such) and the exectives reactions to it has split the "geek" world almost to illreversable effects - where there was one aduiance that like diffrent products and projects - theres now millions who only like one and damn the rest. The networks, tired of losing money to cable wanted to cut there losses and move on but the government wanted there quotas. So they got it.
And the kids lose out in the end because even though there are four kids cable networks, 2.2 billion in ad money etc, there hasnt been a certifiable seller outside of Spongebob (and it started around the days Pokemon was popular...)and the only show close to that airs on Sunday nights...
Its just a sad story all around.
Henchmen21
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I think we should all have a moment of silence in memory of saturday morning cartoons.
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lunarworks
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Those were amazing. I was always so hyped for the new TV season.GDGF said:
Kids have more than ever, but with that instant access there's a side-effect: They get bored faster than ever.Subitai said:
Back when I was a kid, I could spend a whole Saturday afternoon entertaining myself without TV or videogames. Now kids can't seem to survive 30 minutes without some form of electronic entertainment.
The beginning of the end for Saturday morning cartoons was in 1990 when Congress passed the Children's Television Act.
MetalAlien
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lunarworks said:
Except for saturday morning yes, inside for more than an hour you felt like you wasted the whole day!
balladofwindfishes
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The two bolded never should appear in the same sentence, unless that sentence is "Samurai Jack is an epic show that doesn't use lazy animation"PumpkinPie said:
I miss Samurai Jack
wow this is like being warped back to 1987
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUxixGA5Joc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUxixGA5Joc&feature=related
Aaron Strife
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Spongebob is fucking awesome. I have a facebook album devoted to the funny super-cartoony expressions they use in every episode.Bleepey said:
Carnby
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Aaron Strife said:
BWHAHAHHAHAHA! i must know what episode this is from! :lol
edit: i love sponge bob. i bought a random DVD compilation because Band Geeks was on it. has anyone seen this episode? it is the one where it ends with Squid's marching band playing at the super bowl but it comes off as an 80's rock band... sponge bob style. it is hilarious!
Rahxephon91
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Cartoons are still around (obviously), but a lot of kids programing seems to be live action teen type stuff. Kid's getting older I guess. I mean this Live Action stuff isn't like Pete and Pete and Clarissa Explains It All. It's not wondrous like that. A lot of these live action shows deal with stuff like dating on a very kid level. It's pretty strange.
Plus there's no need Saturday Morning Cartoons with cable around.
I remember getting up on Saturdays just to watch Fox Kids. It was amazing.
Plus there's no need Saturday Morning Cartoons with cable around.
I remember getting up on Saturdays just to watch Fox Kids. It was amazing.
Reading this made me fondly remember "The Real Ghostbusters."
Wondering if they were available now, I had to look and, what do ya know, I've got something new at the top of my wish list:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001R1HEMI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
EDIT: oh my, the complete Dungeons and Dragons cartoon series for $7.49!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002DH20Q0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Netflix should make a deal to stream some old school 'toons...and Pee Wee's Playhouse.
Wondering if they were available now, I had to look and, what do ya know, I've got something new at the top of my wish list:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001R1HEMI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
EDIT: oh my, the complete Dungeons and Dragons cartoon series for $7.49!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002DH20Q0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Netflix should make a deal to stream some old school 'toons...and Pee Wee's Playhouse.
Eteric Rice
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jaekwon15 said:
That episode was classic.
As for the one you're asking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-XJkk1iXRw
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