So what happened to Saturday day morning cartoons? what happened to them?

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Kids really have it bad these days. I'm not saying we were being blown away by fluid, masterful animation in the 80s, but everything today looks the same: as simplistic in design as possible and Flash-animated so it all looks way too clean. I can't stand it.
 
Night_Trekker said:
Kids really have it bad these days. I'm not saying we were being blown away by fluid, masterful animation in the 80s, but everything today looks the same: as simplistic in design as possible and Flash-animated so it all looks way too clean. I can't stand it.
If I'm not mistaken Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends started this trend. Ben 10 and the various DC series are some of the few hand-drawn shows left.
 
Spider-Man was my favorite and from the non cartoon shows this was only one worth watching:
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Marvel action hour
Animaniacs
Cow and Chicken
TMNT
Pokemon

If you go to Youtube, all the comments are tearful farewells of our past childhood and how this generation is being robbed. They just need to air these 90s shows. Save the children
 
DonMigs85 said:
If I'm not mistaken Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends started this trend. Ben 10 and the various DC series are some of the few hand-drawn shows left.

I think maybe Dexter's Lab started it. The simplistic design part, not the Flash-animated part. I've seen so many cartoons (not a one of which measures up to the brilliance of earlier Dexter's Lab episodes) since then that try to ape the same simple design philosophy and utterly fail at it. As an example, Johnny Test is a pretty lame show that not only rips of the design approach, it rips off the entire concept of Dexter's Lab.

As for the first cartoon to be animated totally in Flash, I don't know. Was it Foster's? I wan't to say there was something earlier, but I'm not certain. That's a great show (or was for a long time) in any case, and the Flash-animated look didn't bother me as much because of the interesting and fun, if simple, character designs.

I'm honestly sort of shocked to hear Ben 10 is hand-animated, but I've never really watched it. It also has a very clean look that I don't like. Maybe I just miss the messier, less-perfect hand-drawn look from stuff I used to watch.
 
Can someone help me figure out this old saturday morning cartoon:

Earth was conquered by something and the humans were pushed to the edge of the solar system. They fought whatever the bad guys were in suits (kind of like that technoman cartoon) and it lasted a year or 2 and by the end they had fought all the way to Earth (from Pluto). I would say late 80's, early 90's.
 
Night_Trekker said:
I'm honestly sort of shocked to hear Ben 10 is hand-animated, but I've never really watched it. It also has a very clean look that I don't like. Maybe I just miss the messier, less-perfect hand-drawn look from stuff I used to watch.

it's hand-animated. it's just bad design with no room for creative flourish. check this out, it will illustrate what i mean.

Every pose he does of Bullwinkle is different in the details. They all follow the general idea of Bullwinkle-the basic shapes, the basic proportions, yet the artist experiments with the specifics in every single pose.

You can describe Bullwinkle's designs in general terms-with adjectives.
He is tall and thin
He has a long neck
short skinny legs
knobby knees
A furry peanut shaped torso
His head is made of two shapes, a small rounded cranium and a larger droopy nose and muzzle.
Goofy eyes

The exact dimensions of all these adjectives is not set in stone. A great designer can play with the proportions, angles and specific details and still make the characters recognizable.

There is no tracing of model sheets.

The artist messes around with the specific details to keep everything organic, alive....and artistic.

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Tabris said:
Can someone help me figure out this old saturday morning cartoon:

Earth was conquered by something and the humans were pushed to the edge of the solar system. They fought whatever the bad guys were in suits (kind of like that technoman cartoon) and it lasted a year or 2 and by the end they had fought all the way to Earth (from Pluto). I would say late 80's, early 90's.
Star Blazers?
 
Can I propose we all hold hands and lament the loss of anticipating new episodes of X-Men, Gargoyles, Duck Tales, Bobby's World, Spider Man, Sailor Moon, Power Rangers, etc?

I'll light a candle tonight.
 
You know watching those intro's made me curious. Where do they find those people to sing those theme songs.

edit: Also, for some reason I wouldn't mind seeing some of these old cartoons turned into modern games. Bravestarr alone could probably be maid into a RDR like game.
 
I know its not Saturday, but I decided to watch some Toonzai (4Kids block) since they had Dragon Ball Kai airing. I knew about Blue Popo, but man. They've butchered the show to a point that there's nearly no point to airing it, especially when Nicktoons is airing it just fine.

The lineup in general is terrible as well, they have 5 hours to themselves and they only show 4 shows. What the fuck? I remember in the Fox Kids days, by the time you got to 12:30 you had watched so much shit that you barely remembered the shows you watched at 7:30. It was like you went on a huge journey.
 
Whenever I see threads like this, I wonder if people have completely blocked out all the shitty shows that used to be on when we were kids as they talk about how bad cartoons are now? I mean, I can't be the only one who changed the channel or played with a sibling or became otherwise occupied when shit like Silver Surfer came on? Hearing everyone speak like every show that was on was some gem is making me feel like I was the most jaded kid ever.
 
ReiGun said:
Whenever I see threads like this, I wonder if people have completely blocked out all the shitty shows that used to be on when we were kids as they talk about how bad cartoons are now? I mean, I can't be the only one who changed the channel or played with a sibling or became otherwise occupied when shit like Silver Surfer came on? Hearing everyone speak like every show that was on was some gem is making me feel like I was the most jaded kid ever.

You're not the only one who hated some shows; I used to hate Doug, Hey Arnold!, and Ren and Stimpy.

Though I really enjoyed pokemon, muppet babies, ReBoot, Rugrats (the old one not the new), and gummy bears.
 
I used to bitch about the lack of Saturday morning cartoons every damn Saturday on Twitter. Then I realized that gets old. But there's still a lack of awesome cartoons. :(
 
retty said:
You're not the only one who hated some shows; I used to hate Doug, Hey Arnold!, and Ren and Stimpy.

Though I really enjoyed pokemon, muppet babies, ReBoot, Rugrats (the old one not the new), and gummy bears.
Oh man I thought I was the only one. Never got the appeal of that show, even as a kid.
 
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