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[Elchele]

Wonder if NYC FC will have a good impact in the people of NYC. I mean, they are basically a satellite team of Manchester City.

The constant soccer or football discussion is one of the most boring topics in the world, and somehow all threads in OT about the sport turns into it.

still better than Clegg talking about Man Utd transfers

 

[terrisus]

Blame the Brits.

It's not just historical:

You'll notice the price of the magazine is in pounds.

Yes, a nickname.

Once again - the sport's official name is basically the same most everywhere else in the world.

 

[Guileless]

cool nyc kids only watch serie a

The difficulty we have in the States watching live Serie A matches since Fox Soccer died is a national scandal.

 

[Clegg]

Wonder if NYC FC will have a good impact in the people of NYC. I mean, they are basically a satellite team of Manchester City.



still better than Clegg talking about Man Utd transfers

Weirdo.

 

[njean777]

How is soccer in any way an "alternative" sport? It is the most popular sport in the world compared to any others. It isn't hip to like soccer.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

Yes, a nickname.

Once again - the sport's official name is basically the same most everywhere else in the world.

The official name of the sport is basically the same most everywhere in the world, it's Association Football. "Football" alone is just a nickname that people use to refer to the code of football they're discussing when the context makes it obvious which code they're talking about.

It's like if we're talking about current events, and I mention that something happened on the 18th. Context makes it obvious that I don't have to specify 2014 or even April. If I'm talking about my family, I don't have to specify their surnames because context makes it obvious. If I'm talking about celebrities in general, I need to specify whether I'm talking about Michael Jackson or Michael Jordan, but if I'm talking about pop music (or alternatively, basketball,) I generally don't.

You're on a global forum with a strong contingent of Americans, in a thread about the sporting preferences of people in New York City, not in merry old England. Context calls for the sport to be referred to unambiguously.

 

[Jay Sosa]

Yes, a nickname.

Once again - the sport's official name is basically the same most everywhere else in the world.

and once again...you're posting on an american board.

 

[Lambda Pie]

The constant soccer or football discussion is one of the most boring topics in the world, and somehow all threads in OT about the sport turns into it.

 

[terrisus]

You're on a global forum with a strong contingent of Americans, in a thread about the sporting preferences of people in New York City, not in merry old England. Context calls for the sport to be referred to unambiguously.

and once again...you're posting on an american board.

And if one is talking about American Soccer, that would be fair enough.

But, if I'm talking about Liverpool Football Club, or the Fédération Internationale de Football Association, I'm definitely not going to be saying "Soccer."

 

[Squirrel Killer]

And if one is talking about American Soccer, that would be fair enough.

But, if I'm talking about Liverpool Football Club, or the Fédération Internationale de Football Association, I'm definitely not going to be saying "Soccer."

You're in a thread about the sporting preferences of people in New York City.

 

[terrisus]

You're in a thread about the sporting preferences of people in New York City.

Which is talking about English Premier League Football.

That may explain why, at 8:30 a.m. last Sunday, a lively crowd of supporters with tattoos and artfully rolled jeans showed up to Banter, a bar in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, with plank floors that caters to Premier League fans. With several in Steven Gerrard jerseys and team scarves emblazoned with the Liverpool team motto, “You’ll Never Walk Alone,” they settled in for a crucial live match between Liverpool and Manchester City.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

Which is talking about English Premier League Football.

You realize that was written in the New York Times, written about Americans, by Americans, for a predominantly American audience? The grey old lady is following proper phrasing by using the actual name for organizations, but using a contextually unambiguous name when referring to the generic.

 

[entremet]

This thread is now derailed due to semantics lol.

An American publication is going to use soccer. It's not that complex.

 

[sazabirules]

The difficulty we have in the States watching live Serie A matches since Fox Soccer died is a national scandal.

If you get BeIN Sport you can watch any match on their website that isn't being televised.

 

[terrisus]

You realize that was written in the New York Times, written about Americans, by Americans, for a predominantly American audience? The grey old lady is following proper phrasing by using the actual name for organizations, but using a contextually unambiguous name when referring to the generic.

They called it Association Football?

 

[keuja]

 

[Delicious Waffles]

If you get BeIN Sport you can watch any match on their website that isn't being televised.

For me, it's in a package of sports channels I don't want. I've been meaning to call and ask if I can just get BeIN Sports and forget the rest.

 

[Cagey]

This thread is now derailed due to semantics lol.

An American publication is going to use soccer. It's not that complex.

Semantics is a polite way of saying jackass.

 

[sazabirules]

For me, it's in a package of sports channels I don't want. I've been meaning to call and ask if I can just get BeIN Sports and forget the rest.

It would be amazing if it was in the same package as NBCSN. I was paying $9.99 extra a month to get the package that came with it.

 

[Konka]

It is called soccer in countries where there is another variation of Football that is not Association Football to separate the two. It is in no way just a USA thing.

Ireland - Gaelic Football
USA - American Football
Canada - American Football
Australia - Australian Football.

It is easier to call it Soccer.

 

[terrisus]

What's with all the gray on that map?
South America doesn't play fútbol now?

 

[Konka]

What's with all the gray on that map?
South America doesn't play fútbol now?

It's english speaking nations.

 

[terrisus]

Alright... So... Half a dozen or so English-speaking countries call it "Soccer," everywhere else calls it some version/translation/variation on "Football."

Sounds like there's one way which is much more clearly and universally understood than the other.

 

[Cagey]

Alright... So... Half a dozen or so English-speaking countries call it "Soccer," everywhere else calls it some version/translation/variation on "Football."

Sounds like there's one way which is much more clearly and universally understood than the other.

Yep, that would be the way used in the county where the paper is published.

You live in Connecticut. You certainly understand this. You're being purposely obtuse to fuel an argument out of, what? Boredom?

 

[Azuran]

I call it soccer all the time no matter what, even when I visited Europe and Latin America, because I know it annoys the hell out of people.

 

[Konka]

Alright... So... Half a dozen or so English-speaking countries call it "Soccer," everywhere else calls it some version/translation/variation on "Football."

Sounds like there's one way which is much more clearly and universally understood than the other.

And again it's because those countries don't have any other version of Football so they just call it that, there is no need to differentiate.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Alright... So... Half a dozen or so English-speaking countries call it "Soccer," everywhere else calls it some version/translation/variation on "Football."

Sounds like there's one way which is much more clearly and universally understood than the other.

If you call if football in Australia everyone will assume you are talking about a different sport. If you call it soccer everyone immediately knows what you're talking about. Even my friends who mostly watch the game prefer to call it soccer because it's just easier here.

 

[terrisus]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree for now - until the next topic where this invariably comes up anyway.

Good to see the people in the OP enjoying Liverpool FC matches.

 

[flintstryker]

Considering how popular Football is worldwide wouldn't it make them not hipster to support it?

 

[theprodigy]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree for now - until the next topic where this invariably comes up anyway.

Good to see the people in the OP enjoying Liverpool FC matches.

disgusting, your opinion is automatically invalidated

 

[terrisus]

disgusting, your opinion is automatically invalidated

 

[Squirrel Killer]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree for now - until the next topic where this invariably comes up anyway.

Disagree about what exactly? You disagree that the actual, official name of the sport is "association football?" That it is shortened to either "football" or "soccer" depending on local ambiguity?

 

[Mr. Patch]

It's always quite interesting to see people upset at Americans for using a name they didn't invent in these kinds of topics.

 

[DrkSage]

Now do pineapple vs ananas with meme faces.

Oh I didn't do that, I just found it on the Internet. The same with this one: ananas vs pineapple

Also in Spanish I don't call it ananas, I call it Piña

 

[daviyoung]

Oh I didn't do that, I just found it on the Internet. The same with this one: ananas vs pineapple

Also in Spanish I don't call it ananas, I call it Piña

I know I was just being a twat.

 

[terrisus]

Oh I didn't do that, I just found it on the Internet. The same with this one: ananas vs pineapple

Also in Spanish I don't call it ananas, I call it Piña

Well darn.
What's our excuse for that one. "We already have a fruit named ananas?"

 

[Empty]

“You buy into the history and the tradition, the values of the club,” said Bryan Lee, a digital brand strategist who grew up in Southern California and lives in Greenpoint. He showed up in a vintage gray Liverpool away jersey. “Historically, Liverpool has been a blue-collar port city,” added Mr. Lee, 24, as thoughtful as if he were delivering his orals at graduate school. “The politics of Liverpool was really sort of anti-Thatcher. It’s become the people’s club. Those hardworking blue-collar values never really left, even though it’s been ushered into the modern era of the club being a global franchise.”

this is the worst thing i've read this year. "digital brand strategist" really makes it.

 

[paperboywriter]

German hipster watch football.

 

[Guileless]

What's wrong with supporting Liverpool based on its working class ethos?

 

[daviyoung]

What's wrong with supporting Liverpool based on its working class ethos?

Liverpool FC has a working class ethos? How?

It's not anti-Thatcher because she was some upper class fatcat, it's anti-Thatcher because of the police cover-up of the Hillsborough disaster.

Liverpool is absolutely a port city, but it has an even older football team called Everton FC. Seems like the guy in the article has a very limited understanding of what club he's supporting and why. You could throw a dart at a map of the UK, attempt to justify the place it lands on, and you'd come up with an answer similar to that guy's.

 

[cebri.one]

Best sport in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTjbFt-PRWA

 

[Alex_Mexico]

nobody cares about soccer

This right here, is the single most ignorant comment I've ever read today.

Did you know the USA '94 World Cup holds the record for highest attendance in history? I'm Mexican and I know this. http://www.ussoccer.com/about/history/us-soccer-as-host

And that was 1994, two full years before you even had a professional soccer league! NBC Universal just paid $290 million dollar contract to exclusively show in your country the English Permier League games.

"Nobody cares about soccer"? I'm sure you live in your own little fantasy world, don't you?

 

[John Dunbar]

so this is why australia didn't get to host the world cup.

this and bribes. tons of bribes.

 

[JCX]

NY Times writing a trend piece on a trend that's been happening for years. A few years ago everyone started wearing the scarves, and this is in Michigan.