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[CrankyJay™]

I had this thought just last month. But as a family man I couldn’t risk it. But if I were single I would probably do this.

Some white-collar workers are secretly balancing 2 full-time jobs and earning up to $600,000, a report says. They drop in and out of multiple meetings to avoid getting caught.

Some workers with second jobs log in to two meetings at once or use paid time off from one job to work at the other, The Wall Street Journal reported.

news.yahoo.com

 

[AJUMP23]

This is an idea I can get behind.

 

[oagboghi2]

I’m trying to do the same thing right now. Hopefully put me in a position to be clearing 200k a year

 

[jason10mm]

I know lots of folks that take vacation to work elsewhere, we call it moonlighting. Is this supposed to be a revelation of some sort?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I had this thought just last month. But as a family man I couldn’t risk it. But if I were single I would probably do this.

Some white-collar workers are secretly balancing 2 full-time jobs and earning up to $600,000, a report says. They drop in and out of multiple meetings to avoid getting caught.

Some workers with second jobs log in to two meetings at once or use paid time off from one job to work at the other, The Wall Street Journal reported.

news.yahoo.com

Happens all the time.

Why do you think so many people want to work from home with no boss down the hall?

At my last company I could never get hold of a sales guy who worked from home (he always had to since there was no regional office in his city). He'd get back to you later in the day or later in the week.

After he left the company, turns out he was doing landscaping/reno jobs during the day.

 

[Davey Cakes]

Using paid time off? That seems complicated.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

At my last company I could never get hold of a sales guy who worked from home (he always had to since there was no regional office in his city). He'd get back to you later in the day or later in the week.

While that can be true in that regular case I frequently do that, even when in the office. When I work I’m in the flow, no distractions. Slack is either turned off or set to DnD and everybody knows if it is not of an utmost importance I will not reply immediately. My colleagues that are connected 24/7 are incredibly inefficient.

 

[Davey Cakes]

I know lots of folks that take vacation to work elsewhere, we call it moonlighting. Is this supposed to be a revelation of some sort?

I always thought moonlighting was just working in the off hours from your other job. Using vacation time for it sounds bonkers to me.

White collar jobs are cozy and pay well. Working a second job must completely evaporate one’s free time. Is it the money or are ya’ll just workaholics? Do you owe a debt to the mafia?

 

[nush]

Happens all the time.

Why do you think so many people want to work from home with no boss down the hall?

At my last company I could never get hold of a sales guy who worked from home (he always had to since there was no regional office in his city). He'd get back to you later in the day or later in the week.

After he left the company, turns out he was doing landscaping/reno jobs during the day.

It's like all the Millennials discovered something new all by themselves. Moonlighting.

 

[BlvckFox]

I always thought moonlighting was just working in the off hours from your other job. Using vacation time for it sounds bonkers to me.

White collar jobs are cozy and pay well. Working a second job must completely evaporate one’s free time. Is it the money or are ya’ll just workaholics? Do you owe a debt to the mafia?

You’re correct. Moonlighting is just working an additional job outside normal working hours. Ive been doing it for the past couple of months and I don’t owe the mafia but the extra cash has really helped pad out my savings and open up doors to invest.

 

[crazepharmacist]

I know lots of folks that take vacation to work elsewhere, we call it moonlighting. Is this supposed to be a revelation of some sort?

My job allows me to take a vacation but still come in to work and any time worked counts as overtime. So I call it an overtime vacation. A vacation where I just work as much overtime as i possibly can

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

 

[oagboghi2]

It's like all the Millennials discovered something new all by themselves. Moonlighting.

it isn't moonlighting. It's being on the clock for multiple jobs at the same time.

 

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[nush]

it isn't moonlighting. It's being on the clock for multiple jobs at the same time.

So it's like back in the day when I ran my Ebay business on my work PC during office hours. It's still nothing new, except covid remote working makes it easier. A few years ago I had a remote job, I'd go on vacation and nobody ever knew as long as I answered my phone and emails promptly and was there for Skype calls. I was mobile networking from a hot Springs with my girlfriend.

 

[Blond]

I’m in that boat. Mind you in have

No debt minus my house
No children
No really expensive hobbies even though I love biking and gaming they never go too outlandish

I’m basically bored. I work 4 - 10s and 3 day weekend’s sound so so awesome…at first. Saturday’s are basically beer money gigs, Uber Bike Delivery, or Instacart, my friend’s retro store (often paying me 500 bucks a day just to work Saturday afternoons so I help him run the store and catch up on web orders)

Often training and keeping my skills updated on the job anyway. It keeps me out the house I guess, COVID has me seriously fiending for more social interaction then I thought.

 

[just_some_nut]

This shit isn't surprising to me. I see many fully-remote coworkers consistently not respond to IMs/emails for hours while their status remains "available." And I'm fully aware of their workloads, so it ain't a matter of them being too busy.

The actual work probably only requires a couple of hours a week to complete in some places; and it's often harder to get fired than it is to get hired, so of course people are going to abuse it.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

I could easily do this if I weren't a lazy fuck. My 40 hour a week job takes maybe 15 hours to do, and I don't even have to rush.

 

[Relativ9]

That just sounds like freelancing with extra steps. I did that for 2-3 years (before the pandemic), have one hourely contract and one milestone contract simultaneously on Upwork, use a VM on a separate screen for the hourly contract and voila; get paid twice.

Most of the time I more than met my deadlines as well, most people overestimate the difficulty and time commitment required to complete simple technical taskes.

 

[Haint]

In every large corporate office I've worked in, most people spend about 1 hour a day doing meaningful work and the other 7 acting busy. Most office complexes are swimming in redundancies, I'm sure there are some people working 3 or 4 full time jobs. This should surprise no one, drive through any industrial park and you'll see many dozens of buildings filled with 1000's of offices with names so generic they sound AI generated which no one can describe what it is they actually do. Most of these places subsist on government grants/contracts or outsourcing slush funds from mega corps. 5-10% of the employees earn 95% of the revenue in these places, if they deliver anything at all (particularly common with government, where programs are routinely canceled but still paid, or seamlessly moved on to the next dead end project).

 

[Relativ9]

In every large corporate office I've worked in, most people spend about 1 hour a day doing meaningful work and the other 7 acting busy. Most office complexes are swimming in redundancies, I'm sure there are some people working 3 or 4 full time jobs. This should surprise no one, drive through any industrial park and you'll see many dozens of buildings filled with 1000's of offices with names so generic they sound AI generated which no one can describe what it is they actually do. Most of these places subsist on government grants/contracts or outsourcing slush funds from mega corps. 5-10% of the employees earn 95% of the revenue in these places, if they deliver anything at all (particularly common with government, where programs are routinely canceled but still paid, or seamlessly moved on to the next dead end project).

This. Though it's not that they don't deliver anything, it's that people who don't know anything about tech for example, vastly overestimate how hard it is or how long it takes to solve very simple problems. I once did a freelance gig where I had to deliver a locomotion system for an architecture showcase walkthrough of an 3d moddled office building in Unity. What they wanted was super simple and they could've just used the built in FPS controller in Unity, but instead they wanted a "custom solution" so I literally wrote two very simple pages of code, put mesh colliders on everything and called it a day. They had a 3 week deadline and paid me the equivalent of a month of full time wages; took me 3 hours.

 

[INC]

Can always earn more money, I cant earn more time

 

[nush]

I see many fully-remote coworkers consistently not respond to IMs/emails for hours while their status remains "available." And I'm fully aware of their workloads, so it ain't a matter of them being too busy.

See, this is the one thing I was fully aware of when working remote. You have to appear to be "working" much more than if you are sitting at a desk in the office. I'd turn my notification noises up super loud so I would not miss them, while I was just sitting in my pants, drinking beer and playing Xbox in my living room.

 

[Mihos]

I have some pretty serious side gigs, but nothing that over laps with my main job or violates my non-compete clause

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Resisting the temptation to avatar quote OP.

As for the topic at hand... welcome to the real world, I guess?

 

[Kilau]

Now do all that and collect unemployment.

 

[RoboFu]

I always thought moonlighting was just working in the off hours from your other job. Using vacation time for it sounds bonkers to me.

White collar jobs are cozy and pay well. Working a second job must completely evaporate one’s free time. Is it the money or are ya’ll just workaholics? Do you owe a debt to the mafia?

its because those jobs don’t pay as well as you think and taxes for middle class are crushing to alot of people while socialist politicians want to us to pay more and more because why should someone work hard to get ahead when others won’t??

 

[Deleted member 1159]

I’ve strongly considered picking up 100% remote work while doing my full time job. The hourly rates are insane because they come with no benefits, which is fine because I have redundant benefits between my job and my wife’s. The only thing stopping me is feeling fairly comfortable where I am and not wanting to give up free time

 

[Maiden Voyage]

More power to them.

 

[CrankyJay™]

I’ve strongly considered picking up 100% remote work while doing my full time job. The hourly rates are insane because they come with no benefits, which is fine because I have redundant benefits between my job and my wife’s. The only thing stopping me is feeling fairly comfortable where I am and not wanting to give up free time

That’s where I’m at now. Just started a new job and the previous place is begging me to contract for them.

 

[Tschumi]

I'm an architect and I sell art on the side so like woe is me amirite

 

[Kev Kev]

just about everyone i know works 2 or 3 different jobs. usually only one of them is full time and the other are part time or gig jobs. but the only people i know who have one full time job are older people like my parents generation, around ~60 years old and up. i know thats just my anecdotal experience, but it seems pretty normal these days for people to have multiple jobs or side gigs

 

[jshackles]

I worked two full time jobs for years. I didn't pull this kind of shit though, that's just insane. I have a regular day / desk job (which I attend in person) and I would pick up various night jobs or second shift work that was, unfortunately, completely unrelated to my career field.

In fact, it's kinda weird that I only have one job right now. I bought a house last year that was way under what it costs to rent in this area, and it's a weird feeling only working one job but still having enough money to pay all my bills and support my family.

 

[AJUMP23]

I'm thinking about applying for a second engineering job right now.....Get a work from home job....do 6 months get a few grand, raise my tax bracket and pay for that pool my wife wants.

 

[nush]

just about everyone i know works 2 or 3 different jobs. usually only one of them is full time and the other are part time or gig jobs. but the only people i know who have one full time job are older people like my parents generation, around ~60 years old and up. i know thats just my anecdotal experience, but it seems pretty normal these days for people to have multiple jobs or side gigs

You need to, companies will fuck you off in a second if their profits dip.

 

[CrankyJay™]

just about everyone i know works 2 or 3 different jobs. usually only one of them is full time and the other are part time or gig jobs. but the only people i know who have one full time job are older people like my parents generation, around ~60 years old and up. i know thats just my anecdotal experience, but it seems pretty normal these days for people to have multiple jobs or side gigs

Simultaneously though? That’s really what this is about.

 

[BadBurger]

I thought about it. I could do my current job while also working help desk. I can multitask.

 

[Kev Kev]

Simultaneously though? That’s really what this is about.

I mean yeah of course, how could it not be?

unless you’re saying they are working two jobs during the same hours of the day, but then that would require being two places at once?

can you clarify what you mean? I’m not going to read that article sorry lol

 

[BlueAlpaca]

It's none of the companies' business; they're clearly satisfied with their worker's productivity otherwise they'd fire them or lower salaries.

This is good for the economy as the most productive can fulfill their potential (I'm not one of them btw, there are few people in this world as lazy as I am).

 

[isual]

i read the article yesterday, and the tech is to get 2 full time jobs at companies that are already established. don't work for startups because they ask more and hours are a lot more. basically, just abuse the companies for their $ since they're already taking your skill and time.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

I mean yeah of course, how could it not be?

unless you’re saying they are working two jobs during the same hours of the day, but then that would require being two places at once?

can you clarify what you mean? I’m not going to read that article sorry lol

Could be working two salaried positions with flexible schedules. I mostly manage people/review work and attend meetings at the office, and I can work from home basically any time I want to, so I’ve got a ton of flexibility where I could be working another remote position. I’d have to make sure I’m not violating a non compete or using company resources to do another job, but I am sure I could make it work.

Then again I kinda like nap time

 

[Cockles & Whelks]

It's definitely doable. If you come into an empty office you could even double it to meet clients. What would put me off is dealing with more clueless cunts, one job is bad enough.

 

[Pagusas]

I mean I work a full time job and run my own business. 2 income streams is always preferred. but I don't hide it.

 

[CrankyJay™]

I mean yeah of course, how could it not be?

unless you’re saying they are working two jobs during the same hours of the day, but then that would require being two places at once?

can you clarify what you mean? I’m not going to read that article sorry lol

Two places at the same time. Remote workers are double dipping.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I sort of do that, with a full-time remote job and active consulting on the side. I could really make bank if I had the time to do the latter more... but with family demands I rarely fit in more than 5-6 hours of side work.

 

[Dural]

Been thinking about getting a remote help desk job, I have more than enough free time during my normal work day to be able to do both.

 

[FunkMiller]

I used to do some lecturing on the side of my job, but it got to the point where I was fortunate enough to be earning a large enough amount that I didn’t need a side hustle anymore. Having said that, I work as a self employed consultant, so I guess I have multiple jobs running at once anyway.

 

[Kev Kev]

Two places at the same time. Remote workers are double dipping.

Hm…. Okay

I’m kinda lost but it sounds like you guys got things handled in here I’ll just see my way out

 

[StormCell]

I admit I've been considering taking on contract work. I'm flexible enough and emotionally present enough that my full time job would never notice and I'd not skip a beat with our cadence. I wouldn't work much more than my regular hours either.

But the only reason I even think of doing it is to offset how much money my wife spends vs what she contributes. I'm a man with simple needs (ie. fishing gear). Those simple needs need money though. Money she's good at spending. Money she's not very efficient at earning unfortunately.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

Our law firm is all virtual and somebody was doing that. Our boss was chill about it but man he could have been suspended easily or disbarred