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Sonic Generations |OT| What Sonic can learn from Sonic
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RobbieNick
Junior Member
I'm on Water Palace now. Having an underwater area with no drowning music is a crime!!
It's a Steamworks game, so you're required to.
I'm really glad my budget this month's been completely spent so I can't pick up the 3DS version on a whim. And here I was at least hoping to get half of a sequel to Rush.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
neato. ok thanks
RobbieNick
Junior Member
No drowning music?! WTF did they use as indicator then?
Just Sonar beeps and a countdown. Ridiculous.
Anyway, one very small plus. It can be registered with Club Nintendo for extra points. Very few Non-Nintendo games have that.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Just, wow.
That's like, a Sonic staple. Rings. Loops. Horrific-shit-your-pants drowning music.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Water Palace was pretty decent. Now onto Tropical Resort.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Well... It seems like RobbieNick liked some things I didn't, so it's probably a YMMV type of game.The more I hear about the 3DS version, the more disappointed I am. I really wanted a new Sonic game for my 3DS.
I'll write up some impressions tomorrow... I need to think about it some more without tearing the game to shreds by only listing what I didn't like about it... because there are some bits I was fine with too.
Classic Sonic has a "push against walls" animation in this version, which wasn't present in the HD version (except for when he had to push blocks or something).
Edit: I guess I can talk a little more about Time Eater.
You don't have your shitty friends saying things while you fight, so that's good. No "I think that's a Homing Attack", "be careful", switch perspectives, etc. The perspectives switch on their own, btw. For the first part, you're fighting in 2D space, where he uses the Homing Missiles, the laser, and hits you with his fist. In the second part, you're fighting in 3D space where you boost towards him. He can attack you with lock on attacks (I dodged these, so I didn't get to see what they were, his hands smashing against you (which you need to dodge with down + B), a headbutt or something like that (which you dodge with down + B) and a clock (dodge the hands). You hit his core, just like in the HD version
It really sucks that you can't change the music for that boss. >_<
Aaron Strife
Banned
It is new!The more I hear about the 3DS version, the more disappointed I am. I really wanted a new Sonic game for my 3DS.
And by new I mean remakes old levels with shitty physics and masquerades itself as new.
The Water Palace thing is the best. I can understand reusing the classic levels, because those were actually good, but "borrowing" from such a nostalgic and memorable game as Sonic Rush...
RobbieNick
Junior Member
It's in reverse this time. It takes good, old physics (for classic anyway) and puts them in Shitty levels. XD
Actually, Water Palace and Tropical Resort are fairly decent. Dreamcast era was complete shit. Especially Radical Highway.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I had to turn the volume off for Radical Highway. So awful.
Edit: Oh yeah, here's my favourite line from the ending!
Modern Sonic: Hope that Boost helps you out in the future. I mean the past.
Classic Sonic: *boosts across the screen*
Classic Sonic:
*boosts across the screen*Just finished the game... you guys weren't exaggerating about how bad the final boss is haha. The nosedive in quality is just amazing.
Overall, it's a good game (7-8/10 is what I'd give it), my biggest complaint is just the Modern levels were just... dull. Crisis City with Classic Sonic was fantastic, Modern Sonic was just OK. I found both versions of Rooftop Run were alright, but Planet Wisp was a drag. The over-emphasis on the wisp powers is what really brings it down. Which is a shame, that was my favorite level in Sonic Colors and I really wanted to like Planet Wisp Out of the 3 eras I'd have to say DC>>Genesis>>>>>>>>Modern.
Overall, it's a good game (7-8/10 is what I'd give it), my biggest complaint is just the Modern levels were just... dull. Crisis City with Classic Sonic was fantastic, Modern Sonic was just OK. I found both versions of Rooftop Run were alright, but Planet Wisp was a drag. The over-emphasis on the wisp powers is what really brings it down. Which is a shame, that was my favorite level in Sonic Colors and I really wanted to like Planet Wisp
Out of the 3 eras I'd have to say DC>>Genesis>>>>>>>>Modern.Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Hmm... I just went through a few Act 1 missions with Classic Sonic in the 3DS version and once you gain
, you gain it forever. You can use it in the missions (as opposed to it being unavailable in the missions in the HD version).
Kind of takes away from the "Kill 10 enemies in Act 1" missions, since they're so easy with that particular skill... though it might make the "make it through the level without killing anything" missions a little harder?
Homing Attack
Kind of takes away from the "Kill 10 enemies in Act 1" missions, since they're so easy with that particular skill... though it might make the "make it through the level without killing anything" missions a little harder?
How did some of you get all of the achievements already??? Seems like these challenges go on FOREVER -_-
I'm going in order of the levels and I just finished the Crisis City challenges with modern and classic Sonic. After I finish those (and do the boss achievement), I'll be done.
I'm going in order of the levels and I just finished the Crisis City challenges with modern and classic Sonic. After I finish those (and do the boss achievement), I'll be done.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
I had to turn the volume off for Radical Highway. So awful.
Edit: Oh yeah, here's my favourite line from the ending!
Modern Sonic: Hope that Boost helps you out in the future. I mean the past.
Classic Sonic:
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Aaron Strife
Banned
Clearly a setup for boost in Sonic 4.2.
Dimps just said fuck it, let's make Sonic Rush 5.
Dimps just said fuck it, let's make Sonic Rush 5.
For the record that goes: Sonic Rush - Sonic Rush Adventure - Sonic Colors DS - Sonic Generations 3DS - Sonic 4 Episode II.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Episode 1's controls were basically Sonic Rush minus the boost, so if they added boost to Episode 2... yeah, I might be okay with that. I mean, it would still be kind of ridiculous in a game called Sonic 4, but it might make for a more fun game, I dunno.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Hmmm...Sonic Generations isn't really anything like Sonic Rush. Modern Sonic is more like his console self than he is like in the Rush series.
So, get this. Just beat the Egg Emporer only to find out in order to even get to the final boos, you have to get all seven Chaos emeralds. Problem is, those special stages get progressively harder as you go. It's like if in Sonic 2, you had to beat all seven special stages to even view the final stage or the regular ending.
So, get this. Just beat the Egg Emporer only to find out in order to even get to the final boos, you have to get all seven Chaos emeralds. Problem is, those special stages get progressively harder as you go. It's like if in Sonic 2, you had to beat all seven special stages to even view the final stage or the regular ending.
fuuuuu! I want to get the 3DS version!
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Tropical Resort Modern is the best Modern level. Not only is the music hyper but it has that Dimps "Go! Go! Go! Hurry!" Fast-paced feel to it. If more of the modern levels were like that, I'd be much happier with the game.
I'll have a review up no later than Friday, but right now this game is hovering around a C and this is coming from a very optimistic tolerant Sonic fan.
I'll have a review up no later than Friday, but right now this game is hovering around a C and this is coming from a very optimistic tolerant Sonic fan.
they won't have boost in episode 2. its contradictory to the physics they already have in episode 1. the way sonic stops moving horizontally in the air when you let go of a direction, along with the slow start running, was to complement level design that required more platforming. ep1 didn't exactly set a very high bar in that regard, but adding boost would throw it all out the window.
perfectchaos007
Member
Does anyone have the 3DS version? The reviews don't look to favorable ( thanks a lot DIMPS ) but I'll still probably bite. If it really sucks, then I'll just ask for it for Christmas or wait for a sale
BlazeHedgehog
Member
It's really not so much of a stretch to have the ability to boost in an environment like that. Boosting does not mean an absence of platforming, as Sonic Generations has shown.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
So what are you supposed to do when going through the loops? You can't just push forward? Do you have to move the joystick in the motion of the loop? And this game is really buggy for me so far. So many times I've glitched through something and died.
Mega64 has done a new video about Sonic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6b6HYHcF0A
Diablohead
Member
Not bad but the original mixes for that stage in colours are so much better overall.
Hah the "classic" mix on the 3DS version is just that, the original.
Now, this back 2 back mix is rather nice.
That was amazing. Glad that wasn't another vid completely down on Sonic again (though it kinda still is)
ThatObviousUser
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Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Hah, it's nice to see a video where they aren't completely down on the series.
I agree. Tropical Resort Modern didn't force you to use Laser at every turn, but I thought it was nice that Classic Sonic's version had him use a Colours DS-exclusive wisp. Really liked what they did with Tropical Resort. Perhaps it's because Dimps has experience with it. Basically in terms of originality and gameplay, Modern Era > Genesis Era >>>>>>>>>> Dreamcast Era.
Honestly, the Dreamcast levels were the worst. They overstayed their welcome. I felt that way about some of the bosses too. The rival races, as I've said, felt like they were Sonic Rivals-Lite races.
I was also planning to give it a 3/5 / 60-65%. As much as I seemed down on the game prior to getting it, I didn't really go into it thinking it was going to be that bad. I was a little surprised to be honest... I'll write up some impressions when I get home. I've finished off some more missions, and I don't really mind the missions at all.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I wouldn't advise getting this game for full MSRP.
I ended up asking for Super Mario 3D Land for Christmas, but I kinda feel like I should've gotten that one Day 1 instead, and asked for this for Christmas. :lol
No. It came out yesterday. Honestly, it should have stayed in the oven a bit longer...
RobbieNick
Junior Member
No, but judging by the Dreamcast era alone, it should have. It feels rushed. Not in the "tons of glitches" way, but in the fact that they only got a basic layout for some levels and didn't get time to fine tune them and add some more fun features. This is especially present in Radical highway in which Classic Sonic is literally running on a flat stretch of road for over ten seconds with no interaction with anything.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I never ever want to play through Radical Highway again. It was so bad.
Even I know Dimps can do better. How long did they work on this... 6-8 months?
Only Planet Wisp challenges to complete and I'll be done with the challenges. ^_^
Went into the movie gallery and selected one of the cutscenes:
I lol'd =p
Oh and NONE of the Sonic & Knuckles music sounds like the original. WTF
Went into the movie gallery and selected one of the cutscenes:
Modern Sonic: (referring to Green Hill Zone) Is it me, or that place we were just in awfully familiar?
Tails: Not to me.
Tails: Not to me.
I lol'd =p
Oh and NONE of the Sonic & Knuckles music sounds like the original. WTF
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
Just picked up Sonic Generations 3DS and Super Mario 3D Land.
Happy is me.
Happy is me.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
yeah, but 3d land is still good.
Play Generations 3DS first, then wash off that bitter taste with Super Mario 3D Land. You'll feel better in the end.
IIRC in that video of the Kinect game, the description praised Sonic Colors.
Yeah, I spent some time with the 3DS game as well. It's not terrible, but it's not great either.
Generations 3DS is to Generations HD as Sonic 1 Gamegear is to Sonic 1 Genesis. The actual visual design is quite weak with poor quality character models that don't animate all that smoothly and very empty background design. Heck, I'd say that, if they had created a "2.5D" Sonic game on the Saturn it would have felt a lot like this. The classic Sonic in particular feels surprisingly close to the older games but it feels a bit stiff in comparison.
The modern Sonic levels play fine as well, but I'm still disappointed they didn't attempt something more ambitious. Surely they could have at least aimed for Sonic Adventure 2 quality stages. I'm sure they couldn't pull off the same types of levels as the console game, but Dreamcast level stages should not have been difficult.
Generations 3DS is to Generations HD as Sonic 1 Gamegear is to Sonic 1 Genesis. The actual visual design is quite weak with poor quality character models that don't animate all that smoothly and very empty background design. Heck, I'd say that, if they had created a "2.5D" Sonic game on the Saturn it would have felt a lot like this. The classic Sonic in particular feels surprisingly close to the older games but it feels a bit stiff in comparison.
The modern Sonic levels play fine as well, but I'm still disappointed they didn't attempt something more ambitious. Surely they could have at least aimed for Sonic Adventure 2 quality stages. I'm sure they couldn't pull off the same types of levels as the console game, but Dreamcast level stages should not have been difficult.
ThatObviousUser
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At least he didn't get that awful Rayman game. Ubisoft should go back to the Rabbids.
Professor Beef
Banned
you can only do tricks through the rainbow colored rings. you can do whatever you want, but i just hold up since there's a good chance you're just going to be holding up again once you hit the ground.
edit: nvm