ViewtifulJC
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SONIC MANIA: Mirage Saloon Zone KNUCKLES Gameplay (No commentary+DAT MUSIC)
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I'm absolutely loving almost everything about this game, that whistle in the song sold me.
There's a lot of amazing little gimmicks in this game and just a well designed stage in general, I really hope it comes to handheld at some point, Sonic 1, 2 and CD are neat little games I love having on my phone.
Cannot wait to play this.
In a way I'm in agreement with you, more so because we've got 4 to 5 great 2D Sonic platformers but no 3D titles that matched the heights of the originals (Outside of, for it's time, Sonic Adventure) that I'd wish Sonic Team can put the same level of care into those games. But whatever the case, there's going to be a 3D Sonic game out later in the year, we'll see if it can match the bar that Sonic Mania is setting.
There's a lot of amazing little gimmicks in this game and just a well designed stage in general, I really hope it comes to handheld at some point, Sonic 1, 2 and CD are neat little games I love having on my phone.
Cannot wait to play this.
In a way I'm in agreement with you, more so because we've got 4 to 5 great 2D Sonic platformers but no 3D titles that matched the heights of the originals (Outside of, for it's time, Sonic Adventure) that I'd wish Sonic Team can put the same level of care into those games. But whatever the case, there's going to be a 3D Sonic game out later in the year, we'll see if it can match the bar that Sonic Mania is setting.
Wait what the fuck happened? This game looks amazing. How? Did I step into an alternate universe? It looks like they finally realized, after decades, that the Genesis pinball physics, slopes, half-pipes, and big, nonlinear levels full of toys are what people loved about Sonic. It even seems like they realize Sonic 3 is the game they should be taking inspiration from.
I'd guess it's because starting a glide gives Knuckles some forward momentum. Otherwise you might have a Sonic Adventure situation where people just spam A->A to gain momentum. Gliding is a pretty powerful tool, they probably felt like they needed to give it a downside.
If theres anything this game does right its mixing the sound of Sonic CD with actual good level design of the genesis games.
Except i feel like these gimmicks keep the flow going instead of stopping the action completely like Carnival Night zone for example.
Net_Wrecker
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No, you're a puppet.
It happened. It happened and I'm just gonna let it hang out there for everyone to see. You wanna kick it with me, you have to come to terms with the fact that I'm a Sonic 3 Sprite Supporter. Face fax
I just strongly prefer the genesis music.
The Xtortionist
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Mania just seems to be going more for a Sega CD/Saturn vibe. Like what would happen if Sega continued the Genesis formula on later platforms?
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themagicalkitsune
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Probably because it went two decades into the past
Well, they didn't really use that style of music for sonic 3 and knuckles.
Or, if I'm remembering right, the rest of the series?
IronicSonic
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Well, everything looks and sounds superb even that CRT filter. 2017 can't come soon enough
I really hope that Mania gets some metal-esque music for final act/boss. I miss those bad ass end game music from Sonic 3&K
I really hope that Mania gets some metal-esque music for final act/boss. I miss those bad ass end game music from Sonic 3&K
Wut, so far I prefer he Sonic3&K sprites to this. The music while great it just doesn't sound "genesis" enough and too much Sonic CD
Yeah I also kinda prefer the sonic 3 sprites too.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Damn right. Sonic 3 sprite is the GOAT. It's the one thing keeping this game from perfection.
That's because Taxman acknowledges the truth about Sonic CD being the best Sonic art and music wise.
And maybe because they want Mania to be like Sonic 4 on Saturn.
Mania's not bad here though. Probably 2nd best. It's clearly based on Sonic 2's sprite, but with nicer shading. Not sure about his color change. I wonder what it would look like darker.
I think he's talking more about the style of music and not the tech behind it. Though the saturn could do fm synthesis like the genesis. We really have no idea what a saturn sonic game would sound like.
Brian_FETO
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This game is gonna be one of the all time greats, friends.
I love the sprites too. I will say I prefer the FM synth sound but the feel of the old games is there
I love the sprites too. I will say I prefer the FM synth sound but the feel of the old games is there
IronicSonic
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Mania's not bad here though. Probably 2nd best. It's clearly based on Sonic 2's sprite, but with nicer shading. Not sure about his color change. I wonder what it would look like darker.
I think he's talking more about the style of music and not the tech behind it. Though the saturn could do fm synthesis like the genesis. We really have no idea what a saturn sonic game would sound like.
Mania's sprite needs smirk and a darker blue tone. But it's great nevertheless
Yeah, forgot about the smirk lol.
Best music wise is an insult to the greatness that is Sonic 3&KI Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Damn, seeing them all side by side makes me hate the new shade of blue even more. Way too light.
Mania's not bad here though. Probably 2nd best. It's clearly based on Sonic 2's sprite, but with nicer shading. Not sure about his color change. I wonder what it would look like darker.
I think he's talking more about the style of music and not the tech behind it. Though the saturn could do fm synthesis like the genesis. We really have no idea what a saturn sonic game would sound like.
RAIDEN1
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The fact that this game is even coming out at all is a minor miracle with the amount of freedom the guys behind this game have got its like Sonic is going back to his 1991-1992 roots! Otherwise Sega don't even let anyone get this level of freedom so to speak on other franchises that could do with a re-launch ie a new shinobi in the vein of the classic 1993 original..Another Daytona/Scud-race/Golden Axe..
They're white washing Sonic!
HoodWinked
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when this game releases to high reviews and praise i can only imagine the people at sonic team wanting to bang their heads on the walls.
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I really don't get this obsession with the absence of pits. Certainly, unavoidable pits or places that are unclear whether they are pits are not a good thing, but standard pits that just happen to be obstacles on your path are absolutely fair and fine practice in platformers and even in old Mega Drive Sonics they exist (particularly in the flying stages).
I wanted a more Sonic 3/K sound, too. I really wanted more of the mechanical sounding slap bass instead of the jazzy New Jack Swing of Sonic CD. I still really, really like the music in Mania, though.
http://youtu.be/_T7hdIh-gtw
Love the sound of the bass in this.
Edit: watching the footage of Mania again, and the music really is so good.
To me, it sounds very in-line with CD, R, Chaotix and 3D Blast. It's definitely how I'd picture Sonic music sounding if it didn't go down a more rock-oriented path with Sonic Adventure.
IIRC the only pits in S3&K were in Flying Battery, Sky Sanctuary and Death Egg. And there were never really any moments where you'd just blindly end up in one, and rarely any where you were doing tricky platforming above them. I think a less exciting route to take is a better punishment than death, and instant death in a game about going fast is a really shitty punishment.
Emperor Bohe
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man this game looks fucking amazing
Brian_FETO
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Yeah I didn't care for it, the visuals are already beautiful you don't have to mess them up
Maybe it'll look better when you're actually playing but right now it seems pretty bad
I kind of dig those "old tv" filters on like 3DS classics where it makes the whole screen rounded out and it's like way over the top (Shinobi 3's rules) but the Sonic Mania one just makes it look scratchy
TheCongressman1
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It's refreshing because every 2D Sonic since 3/K has had fairly poor level design especially when it comes to the overuse of pits as a hazard.
For levels like Sonic 3 which focus on exploration, pits need to be used carefully because of the way players traverse the map. You become accustomed to falling being a minor setback, usually that lands you on another point on the map rather than a loss of a life. It could become frustrating when the level has random consequences for falling unless they are made clear.
So for a game like this, if they can avoid using pits, that's a good thing.
This level looks the best so far. It looks like everything flows together nicely so that you can really build good momentum to keep going as long as you avoid the obstacles. Like, Studiopolis still looks great, but based on the footage I've seen there's a lot of bumpers and things that get in the way a bit too often. Of course, that could be because the players I've seen aren't that good. Heck I could completely change my opinion once I play the game myself.
I like the music here a lot too. Wish there was a way to listen to it without the game sounds right now.
I like the music here a lot too. Wish there was a way to listen to it without the game sounds right now.
HoodWinked
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it almost looks good i'm not usually a fan of these tv filters but there are more subtle things about this filter i notice like a slight smearing between frames and bloom which gives it this very particular look which used to be in 90s and earlier animes and cartoons.
https://youtu.be/dvNQw9MROns?t=36s look how good the shield looks because of it
IronicSonic
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So that is the reason why The 90's Arcade Racer is taking so long
I'm kidding, just fuck Nicalis
ViewtifulJC
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Tails takes a nap when you aint moving and is hella shook when Sonic decides to move again
The Xtortionist
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Tails takes a nap when you aint moving and is hella shook when Sonic decides to move again
Clutching my heart rn
I agree pits are certainly fine if used in the right way. The issue I had with them was it the only way Dimps seemed to know how to add any challenge to their games so they littered their levels with them.
I love CRT effects but I don't think those filters come across well in youtube videos.
Seven Force
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Holy shitTails takes a nap when you aint moving and is hella shook when Sonic decides to move again
Tails takes a nap when you aint moving and is hella shook when Sonic decides to move again
Mate.
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