March of the Crabs
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I really don't like either Oil Ocean. Terrible levels and abysmal bosses. Really ruins the flow of the game.
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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
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MegaManTrigger
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Is there any way to get to the special stages in previous stages when you can't select stage?
You have to spin dash into the Silver Sonics specifically while they are revving up a spindash towards you. See this GIF for an illustration:
http://i.imgur.com/lKQfPW3.gif
Has anyone else had major performance issues on Xbox One? I've had 3 times now that when I open the game to find insane frame rate drops (20fps-ish with the worst frame pacing I've ever seen) on the main menu. They carry over to the main game if I try starting it. I have to quit the game, restart it, and then the game is suddenly fine and at the proper frame rate. I've also had situations where I get noticeable frame rate drops when I start going really fast. Restarting the game seems to help in those cases too. I also get a big stutter whenever I get an achievement.
I've tried power cycling my console, moving the game from an external hard drive to my internal, and nothing seems to solve it. Not sure if it's a bug with the Xbox OS or Sonic Mania. I've never had problems like this on any of my other games.
EDIT:
A quick Google search found that I'm not alone. Hopefully they update the game to fix the frame rate bugs that seem to affect certain people.
I've tried power cycling my console, moving the game from an external hard drive to my internal, and nothing seems to solve it. Not sure if it's a bug with the Xbox OS or Sonic Mania. I've never had problems like this on any of my other games.
EDIT:
A quick Google search found that I'm not alone. Hopefully they update the game to fix the frame rate bugs that seem to affect certain people.
I just got it by chance seconds after posting. The rest of the boss was insanely easy.
Unless you're playing on X1/PS4 & want the achievement for getting all gold medals, no. It seems just getting the silvers will suffice for actual in-game unlocks.
Yep, same here. My Knuckles run is currently stuck at the Oil Ocean Act 2 boss. Good thing the music in this zone is ACE.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I took Sonic into a level that he wasn't supposed to play. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AEeex2KVTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AEeex2KVTM
holy shit
if you set the switch's color scheme to invert & play the intro scene, the time warp effect actually turns the game back to normal.
https://twitter.com/tay_on_3ds/status/900369513950060549
if you set the switch's color scheme to invert & play the intro scene, the time warp effect actually turns the game back to normal.
https://twitter.com/tay_on_3ds/status/900369513950060549
Haha, except Sonic who stays inverted!
dreamcastfan
Member
I wonder if we might possibly get more levels added to this game through DLC? I'm not complaining, mind you, but it's done so well, it makes you want more.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Well this is a lie. You just wasted my time. Knuckles & Knuckles ending without emeralds is WAAAAAYYYYY better.
A third Knuckles doesn't even show up for the emeralds ending.
MadClacker
Member
It's been like that since launch. It'll be fixed.
Ah. I've never played the 8-bit Sonic 2 and I'm not sure I've ever spindashed into Knuckles during that fight (if I did, I don't remember it because it's not something I commonly do).
Ah well. I know now, I guess.
Beat the game as Knuckles last night and it was pretty fun. I'm still not too fond of LRZ, but it was more fun as Knuckles... Also hot damn that unique boss fight haha, so great.
Hate to be so repetitive, but this game is sooooo good, it's pretty much the only 2D Sonic I enjoy enough to want to start it over right after beating it. I couldn't contain myself and started a Sonic only run and made it to FBZ.
Hate to be so repetitive, but this game is sooooo good, it's pretty much the only 2D Sonic I enjoy enough to want to start it over right after beating it. I couldn't contain myself and started a Sonic only run and made it to FBZ.
IronicSonic
Member
I just want to say I loved how THAT "get blue spheres" level play with you expectations. Just genius.
Sounds like Oil Ocean
Sounds like Oil Ocean
Kor of Memory
Member
Not sure if it was mentioned already, but I found a nasty little garaunteed death in the game.
If you are playing as Knuckles on Lava Reef Act 2 and you have all the Chaos Emeralds you can get yourself into a garaunteed death.
Basically, there is a section at the end of the level where there is a bottomless pit, and Knuckles is supposed to glide really far into a wall, and then climb and jump back across the room. There are a bunch of rings to show you the glide path here. It's like right before the boss transition area.
The guaranteed death comes from if the rings you get from gliding put you over 50. If they do, then you can't glide back across to the other wall because you will activate Super Knuckles, stop gliding, and then fall to death.
If you are playing as Knuckles on Lava Reef Act 2 and you have all the Chaos Emeralds you can get yourself into a garaunteed death.
Basically, there is a section at the end of the level where there is a bottomless pit, and Knuckles is supposed to glide really far into a wall, and then climb and jump back across the room. There are a bunch of rings to show you the glide path here. It's like right before the boss transition area.
The guaranteed death comes from if the rings you get from gliding put you over 50. If they do, then you can't glide back across to the other wall because you will activate Super Knuckles, stop gliding, and then fall to death.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
You're going to have to specify. I'm not sure which one you're talking about.
I like the level a lot but yeah,the 2nd boss is awful,he always give me troubles.
MikeBison
Member
Congrats, devs. You've managed to create the worst boss fight I've played in any game of the last decade.
Like literally think it would take genuine effort to craft a shittier piece of game design. I'd rather fight every boss in Souls without having estus to heal than that shitty, luck based, poor feedback, terrible physics mess.
Shame, because the rest of the game up until then was so good. Really top notch. But I don't know wether I can be assed wasting time on trying to luck out on that.
For every failed attempt to hit him, it then takes ages to have another go and the the game trolls you with the minion doing the exact opposite of what you need him to.
Literally roll my eyes each time I pick up my switch and realise I have to do that again (as well as the previous 2 zones) when I want to progress. Probably just shelve it for good.
metal sonic in Stardust
Shame, because the rest of the game up until then was so good. Really top notch. But I don't know wether I can be assed wasting time on trying to luck out on that.
For every failed attempt to hit him, it then takes ages to have another go and the the game trolls you with the minion doing the exact opposite of what you need him to.
Literally roll my eyes each time I pick up my switch and realise I have to do that again (as well as the previous 2 zones) when I want to progress. Probably just shelve it for good.
PositiveGamer
Member
I feel the same about the giant ass octopus from ACT II.
However, it was refreshing to have a challenging boss, bosses in Mania tend to go on the easy side before this one, so I welcome this bit of challenge.
I finished Sonic Mania last night. The first half of the game is pretty good, but man, the last few zones are awful, along with the boss fights. It really feels like the last few zones were super rushed compared to the rest of the game. I still had a lot of fun with it, but I won't lie that I was frustrated by the end of it.
I'd say the failure is not making it clear the "proper" (easy) way to clear the mid-section of that boss. Once you figure that out, the rest of the boss including the end is pretty fun IMO.
It's possible to hit him the "incorrect" way, and if you make that mistake and proceed to fight in only that manner you are indeed in for quite the headache.
If I were to attempt to fix it I'm not sure if I'd make the "wrong" way easier to do or impossible.
But he's really easy
when Silver Sonic appears, he either spindash or do a regular rush. If he spindash you do the same against him, he'll get propelled to Metal Sonic. If not avoid him, then he'll spindash so you do the same.
Silver Sonic literally have only 1 routines with the only difference is what does he start itm so it's easy to know what he's going to do. It's always grap-dash-spidash.
Silver Sonic literally have only 1 routines with the only difference is what does he start itm so it's easy to know what he's going to do. It's always grap-dash-spidash.
And this does works when he's on the side instead of center too. The bounce is more or less scripted.
I don't think you know how to beat that boss. It's really easy, specially that phase.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
Considering I'm bad enough that I can't beat Sonic 1 or 2 without cheats and the boss was a breeze for me I have no idea how you're doing it wrong.
Make sure you hit him as he's revving. If he's already started rolling the trajectory changes.
Would you have been able to beat Sonic 1 or 2 if you restarted per zone instead of from the beginning?
(Probably yes)
Also since it's a Sonic game with proper momentum (generally) how much you rev affects the trajectory.
You only want to rev once. Down, spin, let go. You don't need to blow him to Mars or something.
Zoinks.
balladofwindfishes
Member
I think maybe the Metal Sonic fight has one phase too many. The third phase is confusing (since no other phase lets you directly hit Metal Sonic) and really awkward to beat without cheesing i-frames. The fight, itself, is longer than most end stage boss fights.
But, the minion phase is really easy once you know what to do. Trouble is figuring out what to do usually amounts to dodging for 5 minutes while you flail around until you accidentally do the right thing. But it's not at all impossible and 9/10 Silver Sonic does what you need it to do.
But, the minion phase is really easy once you know what to do. Trouble is figuring out what to do usually amounts to dodging for 5 minutes while you flail around until you accidentally do the right thing. But it's not at all impossible and 9/10 Silver Sonic does what you need it to do.
LinkSlayer64
Member
I really enjoyed Oil Ocean. The only level that gives me issues is the final one, and act 1 of the desert.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
For a significant portion of my time as a Genesis owner, the only games I actually owned were the pack-in Sonic 1 and James Pond (everything else was rented). Spending enough time with the former is probably the main reason why I never have much trouble with 2D Sonic games.
Although, I'll also admit that the first time I played Sonic 1, I couldn't beat any of the bosses. I had to use the stage-select code to see the later zones. I forget exactly how long it took before I could comfortably beat the entire game, but it had to have been over a month at least.
Of course, on the first day I got Sonic 2, I reached the final boss.
Although, I'll also admit that the first time I played Sonic 1, I couldn't beat any of the bosses. I had to use the stage-select code to see the later zones. I forget exactly how long it took before I could comfortably beat the entire game, but it had to have been over a month at least.
Of course, on the first day I got Sonic 2, I reached the final boss.
I noticed last night that if you climb to the top of the left-hand wall (before the glide) you insta-die for no reason.
RecRoulette
Member
Yes. This whole section pissed me off lol
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I have now finished this game 7 times. Send help.
LordKasual
Banned
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makes me not want to transform ever
Also:
- Ability to transform while holding shield would also be nice
- Why can't i use the spindrop thingie while I have a shield up, as far as speed running goes this makes grabbing certain shields a detriment
- Also, why can't Super Sonic use shield abilities if he has them. It would have been neat to have some kind of "super" version of said abilities.
Seems like flaws carried over from the genesis games for no reason
I liked that it was longer than the usual boss, it made him feel like a mid final boss thing, but it's true that the final phase is a little clunky. He suddenly get hitboxes and he moves too slow. Also easy to hit him and fall behind to the spikes.
The Xtortionist
Member
It's just super playable (and replayable). Easy to jump into, and with the lack of getting kicked out to a world map after each level like in other platformers, there's no easy stopping point. Game has incredible flow, and each stage has something to look forward to. Every time I see something about Sonic Mania I want to play more Sonic Mania. And having beaten the game about six times already, I'd say that's a good thing.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
Yeah, I'm sure I would eventually. I don't know if I could have gotten all the emeralds though, I'm not too good at Sonic 2's.
IronicSonic
Member
OO is one of my favorites in 2, and while they didn't really tweak the formula too much here I'm happy it was represented.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Do the pink spheres warp you to any random unused pink sphere on the map, or is there a rhyme and reason to it? I'm assuming it's random due to the rare but borderline unwinnable situations that they've put me in.
I don't know why I'm still playing this mini-game.
I don't know why I'm still playing this mini-game.