I haven't used a generic controller with Steam before, but I think you have to set up what action each button is assigned to first:Hey thanks for responding to my question - I tried what you suggested and while the rest of the buttons work, the D-Pad doesn't seem to work. Guess I'll try to use X360ce or something.
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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
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SciencePilot
Member
After you beat the game on a file, you can select whatever level you want on that file, and you can try for the emeralds again. Once you have them all, just select the last level and play through to the full ending.
Waddle Dee
Member
The Master System Sonic games vary from not even trying to play like a Classic Sonic game (Sonic 1 & 2) to playing like a lesser version of the classics (Chaos & Triple Trouble). I like 1 & Triple Trouble for what they are, but none of them hold a candle to the Genesis games.
Obviously stay the fuck away from Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic Blast, and Game Gear Sonic Spinball. Tail's Adventure is actually a decent Metroidvania game for the system, though.
RowdyReverb
Member
Awesome, thank you!
SoulUnison
Banned
Studiopolis Act 1 boss feels a bit off.
Sonic's angle and velocity has always been affected by slopes - it's not a bug, it's a feature! - but it seems to be taken to some kind of extreme here.
Sonic's angle and velocity has always been affected by slopes - it's not a bug, it's a feature! - but it seems to be taken to some kind of extreme here.
Silvawuff
Member
Thank you, for helping bring such a glorious game into existence. I can't begin to express how grateful I am that this project happened, and I'm able to re-experience classic Sonic with every improvement and tweak this game series has deserved for decades.
I haven't really noticed any problems with DRM. I know the pitchforks are out right now, but I think this is an issue that will be resolved over time.
I found it easier to avoid jumping and just roll into the missiles.
Schwarzbier
Member
So while I'm not thrilled to find out about this DRM issue, this game is a masterpiece! Please let this sell well, we need more of these treasures!
Controls are perfect for me. I'm running it in borderless windowed mode (set res via ini in app folder w/ border off and window on) on a monitor with 5ms input lag or more. Slicker than PS4.
I don't understand why everyone is so mad at the DRM. Seems kind of pointless, sure, but I don't think we know that's why it was delayed two weeks. Like, 11th hour DRM? Doesn't make sense. And, it's not like this DRM is somehow worse than any other DRM, right?
Is it the idiotic scandalous memes surrounding Denuvo, with ghost stories about screwed up SSDs and performance issues that are complete bullshit?
I don't understand why everyone is so mad at the DRM. Seems kind of pointless, sure, but I don't think we know that's why it was delayed two weeks. Like, 11th hour DRM? Doesn't make sense. And, it's not like this DRM is somehow worse than any other DRM, right?
Is it the idiotic scandalous memes surrounding Denuvo, with ghost stories about screwed up SSDs and performance issues that are complete bullshit?
SoulUnison
Banned
Actually, many Denuvo implentations constantly read and write encrypted data to your memory and storage devices, legitimately shortening the life span of your HDD/SSD and possibly RAM.
The prize that paying customers win for their money is undue wear and tear on their expensive equipment, while the pirates ironically skip this by stripping the DRM processes from games.
Way to go, Denuvo!
lowkey my favorite part of the game
It was badly implemented, you cant play it offline like other denuvo games so already a problem for players who bought it legally.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/584400/announcements/detail/1448326045461380318
Why are you siding with companies? Do you have a share of Sega or work for them?
sixteen-bit
Member
If stage transitions aren't being patched in I'd be curious to know what they were supposed to be, but my guesses are as follows:
Those are just my best guesses. Not really trying to come up with ideas, just trying to figure out what was probably removed based on what would make sense in relation to this game and the old ones.
FBZ -> PGZ
Knocks off the door of FBZ and snowboards down a hill and crashes into PGZ like the Sonic 3 thing was intended to be before FBZ was moved.
SSZ -> HCZ
Eggman uses Phantom Ruby to turn the stage upsidedown and Sonic falls off of Little Planet onto Angel Island below.
HCZ -> MSZ
Sonic gets sucked into the tunnel below the boss arena and when you go to the right you see Knuckles standing next to a button and grinning like in HCZ act 2, but when he hops on it it opens the door infront of him instead of knocking you below and he waves you to follow him to the Tornado, which is docked there. If you're knuckles you just walk through the wall and Tails and Sonic are already with the plane and you hop off and take off towards what used to be Sandopolis Zone. (I think a subversion of the Knuckles traps would be an amazing justification for Knuckles showing up again only to get knocked off)
OOZ -> LRZ
Get on a sub, ride it to LRZ.
LRZ -> MMZ
As Sonic and Tails, hop on a Rocket that takes off behind where you fight Heavy Rider.
MMZ -> TMZ
Phantom Ruby turns the Eggman Statue from SSZ into the Titanic Monarch. Hop on one of those WWZ rocket platform things they use all over TMZ to get over to it.
Knocks off the door of FBZ and snowboards down a hill and crashes into PGZ like the Sonic 3 thing was intended to be before FBZ was moved.
SSZ -> HCZ
Eggman uses Phantom Ruby to turn the stage upsidedown and Sonic falls off of Little Planet onto Angel Island below.
HCZ -> MSZ
Sonic gets sucked into the tunnel below the boss arena and when you go to the right you see Knuckles standing next to a button and grinning like in HCZ act 2, but when he hops on it it opens the door infront of him instead of knocking you below and he waves you to follow him to the Tornado, which is docked there. If you're knuckles you just walk through the wall and Tails and Sonic are already with the plane and you hop off and take off towards what used to be Sandopolis Zone. (I think a subversion of the Knuckles traps would be an amazing justification for Knuckles showing up again only to get knocked off)
OOZ -> LRZ
Get on a sub, ride it to LRZ.
LRZ -> MMZ
As Sonic and Tails, hop on a Rocket that takes off behind where you fight Heavy Rider.
MMZ -> TMZ
Phantom Ruby turns the Eggman Statue from SSZ into the Titanic Monarch. Hop on one of those WWZ rocket platform things they use all over TMZ to get over to it.
Those are just my best guesses. Not really trying to come up with ideas, just trying to figure out what was probably removed based on what would make sense in relation to this game and the old ones.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I put in my two-hour grace period on Steam before requesting a refund. Can't bring myself to support that kind of DRM.
But on a more positive note, here were some of the bugfixes and changes that I noticed in the PC version while playing:
But on a more positive note, here were some of the bugfixes and changes that I noticed in the PC version while playing:
- Sonic can no longer reach Knuckles' starting area of Green Hill 1
- You now seem to always receive an extra life at 50k points as intended. (On Switch, this doesn't happen if you pass the 50k mark during the end-of-level score bonus.)
- Super transformation is performed via a dedicated button instead of a double-jump. What's odd, though, is that this seems to be the same button used to activate debug mode. I didn't have time to unlock debug mode and see how that conflict is handled.
- The "now saving" icon now actually does appear onscreen between levels.
If this is your first time enabling Steam Input on the controller, you may have to restart Steam and disconnect/reconnect the controller for it to be properly detected:
A lot of people seem to have trouble getting it to work the first time for some reason (possibly having used other software with it before?) but once it's set up and working correctly you shouldn't have any more trouble.
You must have the Steam Overlay enabled for it to work too, and some older overlay software (e.g. GPU stats) may conflict with it.
That seems to fix the problems I've had with switching away from the game to something else and then going back to it, thanks.
Maybe it did cause problems at some point, but not for Sonic Mania.
There's virtually no I/O activity during gameplay except for what I assume is saving when you complete a level or enter a bonus stage.
The game is fucking amazing. Great to finally play it on PC.
Odd because I played it first on my work PC and it worked right out of the box.
Then I switched to my gaming PC tonight and it was using Big Screen overlay (first time I've EVER seen that in > 1000 Steam games!) and the default controller setup for the X1 controller is all broken, they have the d-pad assigned twice, meaning it's completely broken. Had to alter the Big Screen controller settings to get it to work at all.
Odd because I played it first on my work PC and it worked right out of the box.
Then I switched to my gaming PC tonight and it was using Big Screen overlay (first time I've EVER seen that in > 1000 Steam games!) and the default controller setup for the X1 controller is all broken, they have the d-pad assigned twice, meaning it's completely broken. Had to alter the Big Screen controller settings to get it to work at all.
One guy made some complaint about Dragon Age Inq, and a bunch of popular websites ran the story. That gave Denuvo an awful rep.
But it was essentially not true -- or at least not Denuvo's fault, as proven in my following post.
But maybe you're right and there's a story I don't know about.
Anyone else getting a purchase validation error code of 88500006? I'm trying to play the game and window pops up with a link to https://support.codefusion.technology/SonicMania_8ahn2e/?e=88500006&l=english
Anyone else get this error message? I've restarted Steam and my computer. Still the same error code.
Anyone else get this error message? I've restarted Steam and my computer. Still the same error code.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Titanic Monarch Act 2 really overstays its welcome. Got to a point where I timed out 2x...which tbh is easy cheeseable by respawning from the last checkpoint anyways since time resets. I will give it credit for being unique in terms of level design and new ways to increase momentum and find pathways.
Finished the game, and I have to say, aside from that stupid octo boss, weird deaths happening when it was unwarranted (kept getting the crushed animation when I didn't get crushed, which leads me to believe it might be hitbox issues) and Titanic Monarch Act 2, this is such a fun game to play. Kudos to Taxman and the development team involved with this game.
Finished the game, and I have to say, aside from that stupid octo boss, weird deaths happening when it was unwarranted (kept getting the crushed animation when I didn't get crushed, which leads me to believe it might be hitbox issues) and Titanic Monarch Act 2, this is such a fun game to play. Kudos to Taxman and the development team involved with this game.
Celcius
°Temp. member
Thank you, I was about to give up and play with my keyboard.
Drillary Clinton
Banned
I'm fucking terrible at this game
IronicSonic
Member
Omletta lives!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Thanks tons
It was like I was on my Genesis again and I was loving every second of it. The game is absolutely fantastic.
However, I am pretty annoyed at the Steam store page not disclosing this game being DRM'd with Denuvo. To those that try and "vote with there wallet", not fully disclosing this until after it was purchased is completely unacceptable and highly deceptive. It very sad to see this fantastic game's launch be marred needlessly in this way.
Sega, you must do better.
However, I am pretty annoyed at the Steam store page not disclosing this game being DRM'd with Denuvo. To those that try and "vote with there wallet", not fully disclosing this until after it was purchased is completely unacceptable and highly deceptive. It very sad to see this fantastic game's launch be marred needlessly in this way.
Sega, you must do better.
Triforce141
Member
I don't see the appeal of making Ape Escape crossovers with Sonic
Let alone seeing the appeal for this at all
Stardust Speedway doesn't need to turn upsidedown. It's on Little Planet, they just need to get knocked into the air past Little Planet's gravitational field and they'll fall onto Angel Island.
They go through Hydrocity Zone backwards (the background of Act 1 is the background of Act 2 in S3&K and the background of Act 2 is the background of Act 1 in S3&K and the bosses are reversed. So the end of Hydrocity in Mania should lead to Angel Island Zone, which is where Tails left the Tornado in the intro.
The rocket isn't behind Heavy Rider; you fight Heavy Rider on top of the rocket. I imagine the original idea was for you to have a boss fight while the rocket was shooting up to Little Planet.
Another thing they need to address is how Heavy King became the way he was at the end and turned against Eggman.
They go through Hydrocity Zone backwards (the background of Act 1 is the background of Act 2 in S3&K and the background of Act 2 is the background of Act 1 in S3&K and the bosses are reversed. So the end of Hydrocity in Mania should lead to Angel Island Zone, which is where Tails left the Tornado in the intro.
The rocket isn't behind Heavy Rider; you fight Heavy Rider on top of the rocket. I imagine the original idea was for you to have a boss fight while the rocket was shooting up to Little Planet.
Another thing they need to address is how Heavy King became the way he was at the end and turned against Eggman.
Polioliolio
Member
Just played on steam tonight!
Great game!
So I unlocked some old sonic moves.. But they don't seem to work.. Bug in the game, or do they only work in a new save file?
Great game!
So I unlocked some old sonic moves.. But they don't seem to work.. Bug in the game, or do they only work in a new save file?
Do we know if the separate Super button can also turn off a Super transformation? One of the amazing things about Sonic 3 Complete was that you could go back and forth from Super form and regular form. There are long periods of time in some areas of Mania where being in Super form is just a huge waste of rings. Also, in S3C, the level music still played when you are in Super form.
I think the separate button is the most pressing fix needed, but being able to switch between forms whenever you want to, and being able to listen to the amazing level music while in Super form would be incredible.
I think the separate button is the most pressing fix needed, but being able to switch between forms whenever you want to, and being able to listen to the amazing level music while in Super form would be incredible.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
You can't turn it off.
And I don't really mind that. Having some sort of consequence for using the power-up is fine.
Literally the only performance hitch I've noticed on Switch is a framerate drop during the opening seconds of the first special stage. If there are any other issues, then they're not obvious enough for me to notice them.
The game does support 4K resolution on PS4 Pro (and probably PC), if you happen to have a 4K screen and really value proper upscaling.
megaStryke
Banned
You can only activate those in a "No Save" game. Make sure to toggle them on in the Secrets menu that becomes available.
theaffection
Member
I'd go as far as saying that there's no reason to buy the game on any other console if you have a Switch (unless you want to double dip). Unless you want to play with a traditional d-pad, but the Switch one is pretty good with this game and theres third party controllers
Thanks guys, Switch it is with a double dip on PC if I really like it.
Trophies?
theaffection
Member
Oh shit yeah forgot about that. Definitely
ThatsMytrunks
Member
I played the first few levels with this on Steam.
It was majestic.
It was majestic.
Unknown?
Member
I'd say the PS4 is better for it. Friends who don't own it can play it online with you via share play, it's still portable if you have an android phone, tablet, or windows laptop, and a much better d-pad. Switch is a good choice too though.
I don't see the appeal of making Ape Escape crossovers with Sonic
Let alone seeing the appeal for this at all
Eh. I think it's cute.
I played the first few levels with this on Steam.
It was majestic.
I think this would make up for the delay... Now I'm regretting getting the Switch version myself.