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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread: Green Hills and Laughing Iizukas
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tiggerkiddo
Member
Bloody hell, it's like Rare just went bonzanzo and stir crazy!
Nocturnowl
Member
It sounds like a lot more than it actually is, meanwhile in DK64 3500 normal bananas colour coded by character collection...
I still don't know how or why I did it.
tiggerkiddo
Member
You were young and foolish!
Nocturnowl
Member
That is an acceptable claim.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Well.
Donkey Kong stuff since DKC can turn anyone crazy.
Donkey Kong stuff since DKC can turn anyone crazy.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I ask myself this at least once a month
Shadow Hog
Member
I collected all the blue coins in Sunshine, somehow or another, surely that counts for something? <_<
tiggerkiddo
Member
I can barely tolerate it for DKC games because they can be evil about where they hide stuff...seriously, hiding a DK coin in a hidden stage? EAVIL.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
bonuses inside of bonuses
*inceptionhorn*
*inceptionhorn*
Jesus, you actually did that??
Shadow Hog
Member
Yes.
I used a FAQ
I finally clicked on one of the "STOP! Dad Mom Brother Wife" ads. Yeah, it's some kind of drug helpline. Bad advertising, I think; looked more like it'd be for a Flash horror game.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Banjo Kazooie and Donkey Kong 64 both posited that if finding 40 DK coins and around 100 bonus rooms was fun, maybe finding four times that much stuff is four times the fun! It’s not. It’s tedious is what it is. Mario Sunshine was doubly guilty of making your shopping list so large as to be a chore (thirty blue coins hidden in every level, not to mention all the other junk) but also hiding tons of these blue coins and Shines in seemingly random places, rather than according to any sort of designer-intelligence. Mario Sunshine is actually the only game in this list for which I ever had to look up secrets on the internet. After looking them up, I wondered “if I were in prison for 20 years with no entertainment other than Mario Sunshine, could I find all these blue coins without a FAQ?” Probably not, I concluded.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Do not have the patience for those blue coins at all. Unless they're absolutely worth something in platformers, I generally don't go for the collectables.
...says the person with the FF13 platinum and Tales of Xillia platinum in hand.
...says the person with the FF13 platinum and Tales of Xillia platinum in hand.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Jak 2 Platinum? Fuck, even I didn't do that.
I did get all the Life Drops in Monster World IV, which requires a couple playthroughs if you miss some, but that game is fantastic so it was cool.
I did get all the Life Drops in Monster World IV, which requires a couple playthroughs if you miss some, but that game is fantastic so it was cool.
Nocturnowl
Member
Is this your excuse for playing through Sonic 06? because I didn't subjugate myself to that level of crazy.
BT requires a lot of memorization and tasking between worlds, it's almost too ambitious and complex in its design at times.
The leap from BK to BT is tremendous but also a sign that bigger isn't always better, that said it's pretty good in its own right, soundtrack is lacking big time coming off from the original though.
When Nocturnowl saw the complete status of his collectables, he wept for there were no more items to collect.
It was the apex of pointless fluff, and by fulfilling the task I think that we few are free of the burden, we've been to the top of the collectathon mountain and seen that the view is not pretty and that the trip was ultimately not worth it, as such I feel safe in never collecting mass trinkets again and that was the greatest lesson it bestowed among us.
To this day people still leap around open world games collecting feathers or some tat but I am content and need not, they do not know true collecting and they never will, that is what will forever bind them to continue searching for the non existent truth and goal of collectables.
Yes, i'm this desperate to find the silver lining here.
So devious i've got full completion three times and on the third run (Wii VC) I still forgot its location.
Mario Sunshine's Blue Coins are actually the worst coming to think of it, at least DK64 hides its many items in plain sight unlike SMS which has stuff like butt slam this one stool in the casino for no reason specifically on Shine 4 of the hotel stage.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I don't feel like sharing the crazy things I did for a completionist sake...not to mention the failed attempts...darn you Final Fantasy XII.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Oh, I 100%'d Just Cause 2.
Yeah.
Yeah.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
There has to be some kind of rhyme and reason to where collectibles are hidden. DKC2 is a constant conversation between the player and the developer about where those damn DK Coins and bonus barrels are. SMS seems to think, "fuck it, they want hidden, THEY GOT HIDDEN" and places them in oh, IDK, a random flower on the the level, upside-down because why not, right?
The worst of all collectibles
Did you destroy the whole island
The worst of all collectibles
Did you destroy the whole island
Hot Coldman
Banned
I really should get The Complete Saga, that would fuel my borderline OCD gaming tendencies quite nicely.
Nocturnowl
Member
Exactly, having just finished Uncharted 3 with 39 out of 100 treasures I had to laugh at the idea that there's another 61 small flashing ancient treasures lying in some random corners throughout the game because that's pretty much the limit of their hiding places.
Uncovering an item should feel like a reward, Super Metroid has far too many missile expansions than you really need but damn if each one I find doesn't make me feel like I just stumbled upon something great with my smarts, as opposed to running into dead ends Uncharted style.
This in turn reminds me of Batman Arkham City and how it took the Riddler trophies that were okay in their Asylum implementation and went stupidly nuts with them by shoving them in every damn street.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
-I 100%'d Neptunia mk2, but at least that was a decent game. Didn't care for the kawaii uguu loli bullshit that some people on GAF apparently like which weirds me out to be honest with you.
-I killed hundreds of turtles for my FF13 platinum. Made spreadsheets for calculating XP and battle rankings, made spreadsheets for collectables, etc. All that effort put into a game that I genuinely hated the first time I played through it in Japanese.
-I got FF13-2's platinum. Taped down the controller for the slot machine game and put elastic bands on the analog sticks for a few trophies. And I don't like that game much either.
-I platinumed Tales of Graces f twice (once on JP account), and Xillia twice (once on JP account). The Xillia platinum isn't worth it because it's boring as hell and isn't really skill-based. It's all, "fight 800 battles! Get 800 sparklies on the field! Use link artes 1350 times, etc." So boring.
-I platinumed Last Rebellion. Zzzzzzzzz.
-I platinumed a Lego Harry Potter game. Zzzzzzzzzz...
Like, the Lego Harry Potter games work really well, but oh man they are boring as hell. So many things to collect and it's all just boring. Lego Star Wars, at least when it first came out, was this new novel thing which was neat. Now it just feels like the Lego games are going through the motions.
That's not even counting the Cross Edge and Trinity Universe platinums I have on my JP account.
And fuck it. If I ever stop getting bored by Ni no Kuni, I'd probably go for the platinum in that game too since it isn't even hard.
Mario collectables, I've noticed, are simply hidden in the most arbitrary of places now, with little reasoning for them to be there.
-I killed hundreds of turtles for my FF13 platinum. Made spreadsheets for calculating XP and battle rankings, made spreadsheets for collectables, etc. All that effort put into a game that I genuinely hated the first time I played through it in Japanese.
-I got FF13-2's platinum. Taped down the controller for the slot machine game and put elastic bands on the analog sticks for a few trophies. And I don't like that game much either.
-I platinumed Tales of Graces f twice (once on JP account), and Xillia twice (once on JP account). The Xillia platinum isn't worth it because it's boring as hell and isn't really skill-based. It's all, "fight 800 battles! Get 800 sparklies on the field! Use link artes 1350 times, etc." So boring.
-I platinumed Last Rebellion. Zzzzzzzzz.
-I platinumed a Lego Harry Potter game. Zzzzzzzzzz...
Like, the Lego Harry Potter games work really well, but oh man they are boring as hell. So many things to collect and it's all just boring. Lego Star Wars, at least when it first came out, was this new novel thing which was neat. Now it just feels like the Lego games are going through the motions.
That's not even counting the Cross Edge and Trinity Universe platinums I have on my JP account.
And fuck it. If I ever stop getting bored by Ni no Kuni, I'd probably go for the platinum in that game too since it isn't even hard.
Sonic 2006 was at least funny in that "it's so shitty that I can't believe this is happening!" sort of way, though.
Mario collectables, I've noticed, are simply hidden in the most arbitrary of places now, with little reasoning for them to be there.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I found all the Riddler trophies/riddles on Asylum because it seemed plausible, pseudo-Metroidvania that it was
Then there was a like a billion of them across this huge city, and I was like, "naaaaah fuck that shit"
Then there was a like a billion of them across this huge city, and I was like, "naaaaah fuck that shit"
Nocturnowl
Member
You keep telling yourself this as you try to get some sleep at night but can't because when you shut your eyes and all you see is black you notice, right down there, in the lower corner of the bleak darkness, now loading...now loading...now loading.
I don't know about that, Star Coins in NSMB2 are very well done aside from the odd invisible block but that's more of a secret exit thing, Wii and U get it both right and wrong with their odd fascination for fake walls which aren't always apparent.
It sucks that the actual Riddler segments are stuck behind a wall of trinket toil.
tiggerkiddo
Member
They were actually pretty lazy about hiding the Star Coins in the NSMB series, they were always pretty easy to find...maybe not always easy to get to, which is why I didn't bother getting them all...that and the Big N refuses to reward me properly for collecting them all so why bother?
Professor Beef
Banned
I'll work on the new thread later tonight. Bazza is streaming, so....yeah.
>__>
>__>
I don't blame you.
Nocturnowl
Member
There's your hook, Mario's platforming style benefits far more from seeing the item and devising a way to reach it (unless you cheese it with a P acorn or something).
I didn't know more levels wasn't a worthy reward.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Nah, the only levels I ever liked in NSMB were the roller coaster ones.
Professor Beef
Banned
Can I do some banners?
If you want? I didn't really feel like I needed them when I made the OP a year ago (holy shit, it's been a year).
Nocturnowl
Member
You were the same person complaining about mine carts a few months back right?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND
Box of Bunnies
Banned
[insert Modern Sonic joke here]
tiggerkiddo
Member
I'm lost here now!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh my fuck. Rising's boss battles are putting a huge smile on my face.
Soooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood.
I'm not the one you should be saying this to. My name isn't Anth0ny.
Soooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood.
Heyheyhey...
I'm not the one you should be saying this to. My name isn't Anth0ny.
Alright, I'll think about it.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Those boss themes already have my vote for soundtrack of the year. TIME TO LEAVE IT ALL BEHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND
Box of Bunnies
Banned
The non-DS ones are all pretty rad but the coin gimmick in 2 was pointless and releasing U so close to it was kind of silly.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Bah Bah!
Yeah I agree. Although I had a lot of fun with the coin gimmick... but that's mainly because I love collecting coins in Mario games. Wish they made it rewarding
And it was totally dumb to release two NSMB games in the same year! I wonder if it's part of why the Wii U is not selling that well (along with many other factors). NSMB2 practically overshadowed U despite being the inferior game.
With all that said, I'm really interested in the New Luigi U DLC campaign for NSMBU. 80 new levels :O
Guilty pleasure, the Bah Bahs really grew on me.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
The soundtrack really wasn't something I was anticipating to strike my fancy at all, but damn, it works.
Pfft, you, tigger, and Bean can have your Bah Bahs.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Heh, I'll get you to accept the Bah Bahs soon enough.
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