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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread |OT3 & Knuckles|
- Thread starter Professor Beef
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uh yes. that final battle was such a huge spike. i rememeber just spamming the special moves since that was the only way i could have won.
surprisingly, for some reason, i think Cream was the best character in the game. *not counting the customizable robot*
If there was one thing consistent about the two fighting games Sonic's had, it's that the final fights in both were fucking rough. I was just playing Sonic the Fighters with a friend earlier and Metal Sonic is still a cruel motherfucker.
Sonic Battle had those kinda spikes all over, though. First time fighting Knuckles as Emerl with like 2 cards, getting jumped by all those damn Phi clones...
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I finished Lost World a week ago and it was mostly awful despite looking and sounding nice, good god. Really hope it was just rushed out due to the Wii U bombing and SEGA wanting out of that contract ASAP and not indicative of what the big 2015 game is meant to be.
I know you told me ahead of time it was shit but I still feel like blaming somebody other than myself.
EDIT:
I know you told me ahead of time it was shit but I still feel like blaming somebody other than myself.
EDIT:
I find it really telling Unleashed/Colors/Generations are normally at the top of these lists, I really think they made everything 3D-related beforehand redundant. I'd probably swap the original Adventure out for Lost World though, and I don't even like it all that much!
Shadow Hog
Member
I prefer to think of it as mediocre than complete shit; I rather like the concepts it has going for it, but the controls feel all over the place, particularly when you need to make a jump, which basically kills the whole thing. It got to the point where I felt like I was forcing myself to finish it just so I wouldn't have the plot spoiled for me. (I might as well have; that final twist was terribly handled.)
I really don't understand why Sonic Team can't make platforming controls feel as natural as a Nintendo platformer (or shit, even a PS2 platformer, just to lower the bar here) to save their lives. Either it's oversensitive to the point where slightly nudging the stick causes an immediate change in direction with no loss in velocity, even in mid-air (2K6) or extremely sluggish to the point where trying to play the game like a normal platformer, sans boost, is highly impractical (Generations felt guilty of this; fortunately, you were almost always boosting down linear pathways instead of jumping from platform to platform, but the few times you had to do the latter always felt off to me).
I really don't understand why Sonic Team can't make platforming controls feel as natural as a Nintendo platformer (or shit, even a PS2 platformer, just to lower the bar here) to save their lives. Either it's oversensitive to the point where slightly nudging the stick causes an immediate change in direction with no loss in velocity, even in mid-air (2K6) or extremely sluggish to the point where trying to play the game like a normal platformer, sans boost, is highly impractical (Generations felt guilty of this; fortunately, you were almost always boosting down linear pathways instead of jumping from platform to platform, but the few times you had to do the latter always felt off to me).
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Lost World has nice concepts for the first few levels, but it completely fails to build off them and what would've merely been a repetitive game becomes an exercise in fustration given how 'stiff' and obtuse the controls are. Played the 3DS demo a bit and while the level design was even worse, there was at least a bit of momentum behind Sonic I felt that made controlling him feel more organic. The very few times you control Sonic in a small, slow section of Generations felt more natural than Lost World which feels ironic when the early promotional material focused on how you'd have more control over Sonic's finer movements. It's just weird how after the last few games they fucked up something they'd already started getting right so badly.
I'm also mostly against Sonic plots that aren't self-aware or handled by modern-Archie, but the Zeti are just sort of... There. They're not the most Sonic-looking original characters, but they were fun enough concepts without a proper backstory that the game seems content to push by the side when you reach that pointless final boss. The wisps by comparison were non-intrusive additions to Colors that they still bothered to explain and give a proper send-off to without turning the whole thing into a Sonic '06 melodramatic mess. Even the floating 'Planet Hex' context had some potential they could have worked into the gameplay, like different floating chunks from later worlds colliding into previous zones to form 'mash up' levels as you progressed. Instead it's just a pretty but ultimately useless aesthetic for the map.
Still, the Windy Hill stage in Smash Wii U looks a lot better than the last minute Green Hill one we got in Brawl and we're getting again in the 3DS version. Plus Lost World's admittedly weird focus on the Genesis-era badniks and animals means we're seeing those a lot in the background.
I'm also mostly against Sonic plots that aren't self-aware or handled by modern-Archie, but the Zeti are just sort of... There. They're not the most Sonic-looking original characters, but they were fun enough concepts without a proper backstory that the game seems content to push by the side when you reach that pointless final boss. The wisps by comparison were non-intrusive additions to Colors that they still bothered to explain and give a proper send-off to without turning the whole thing into a Sonic '06 melodramatic mess. Even the floating 'Planet Hex' context had some potential they could have worked into the gameplay, like different floating chunks from later worlds colliding into previous zones to form 'mash up' levels as you progressed. Instead it's just a pretty but ultimately useless aesthetic for the map.
Still, the Windy Hill stage in Smash Wii U looks a lot better than the last minute Green Hill one we got in Brawl and we're getting again in the 3DS version. Plus Lost World's admittedly weird focus on the Genesis-era badniks and animals means we're seeing those a lot in the background.
Professor Beef
Banned
exCUSE you, that spot goes to Project Justice.
I recently went back to the original Adventure, and I found it really hard to like. My nostalgia had me expecting more out of it than what I received. Curse you, nostalgia! Still, the music is ace and I do like a fair amount of the Sonic levels.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Fuuuuuuck the last battle on some real shif
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Sonic Retro finally hit the big time
Good job Shadow Hog
Good job Shadow Hog
Shadow Hog
Member
Thanks!
Freakmonkey
Neo Member
Soon, Sonic will become synonymous with the bible.
Shadow Hog
Member
Bible Boom sucks, they got the color of Jesus's arms wrong
Wait, now Sonic Retro has pictures of a game show that has the site on it?
How long before a game show uses THAT picture too? It'll be a game show that has pictures of retro which has pictures of a game show that has pictures of retro on it.
It's like IRL multi-dimensional quote pyramid
How long before a game show uses THAT picture too? It'll be a game show that has pictures of retro which has pictures of a game show that has pictures of retro on it.
It's like IRL multi-dimensional quote pyramid
Freakmonkey
Neo Member
The New Testament was great, until they added Big the Cat
Here's where those screenshots come from: http://www.cc.com/full-episodes/glys9q/-midnight-tuesday--september-2--2014-season-1-ep-01106
Skip to 09:37 for the relevant part.
Skip to 09:37 for the relevant part.
Shadow Hog
Member
I just realized the Corinthians line was explicitly cited in the image. I thought the host just cited it to be ironic ("Of course Sonic hates the gays!"), but no, apparently the artist is the one making this attribution.
Why.
Why.
Tizoc
Member
Project Justice= Rival Schools 2 right?
Cuz I saw some high level play and dear lord it makes SF4 look like Vampire Savior/Darkstalkers 3.
lol fuck
Azure Dream
Member
I wonder about the legality of these "stuff we found on the internet broadcast on commercial television" shows. Do they get around rights issues by labeling it a news show or something?
(Not defending the rights of the fan artist. But, hey, not like Sega gave them the nod...)
I mean, Comedy Central's owned by Viacom, certainly a company psycho about protecting its copyrighted footage. NOW HERE'S A FUNNY YOUTUBE WE FOUND! HERE'S SOME BAD ARTWORK WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHTS TO!
Oh neat @midnight.
I like chris hardwick's stuff, and the nerdist. Its a weird situation though, I found out he was older than he was and had a whole career during the 90's and stuff. So I guess is just a compliment to him, the first time I saw him was on G4.
I have no idea what you mean by this, but whatever it is I probably agree with it.
I like chris hardwick's stuff, and the nerdist. Its a weird situation though, I found out he was older than he was and had a whole career during the 90's and stuff. So I guess is just a compliment to him, the first time I saw him was on G4.
I have no idea what you mean by this, but whatever it is I probably agree with it.
Freakmonkey
Neo Member
Knuckles no
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Aside from the comic, I've seen far more praise for the TV show than for the games. It actually looks like it could be good. Reminder that the episodes have plots like Knuckles trying to become a mayor and Eggman suing Sonic.
anyone remember Super Monkey Ball? that was a fun series. i was looking at videos of Super Monkey Ball 3DS and...well 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxen6PclTSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g02Dn2vsJHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxen6PclTSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g02Dn2vsJHY
oh so it is like Resident Evil Mercenaries then. I swear to god Crash Team Racing looked better than the racing portion of this game. and that came out in 1999.
The racing was just awful. It was rubber-band AI to the max, and the Smash knock-off was just as bad. I definitely missed Monkey Target and the other games. Thankfully, Banana Splitz on the Vita got it right in that regard, though the main mode was frustrating as all get out.
Tizoc
Member
Looking forward to the cartoon and comic for Sonic Boom.
These are glorious ideas, I need this show asap.
These are glorious ideas, I need this show asap.
Hot Coldman
Banned
rightclicksaveas
Professor Beef
Banned
That's what gaf does to you, it corrupts you.
Dark Schala used to be Light Schala before she got corrupted by gaf and turned cynical and hated all video games.
Shadow Hog
Member
Does this mean GAF is Lavos
Professor Beef
Banned
I guess I'm the Reptite leader, imprisoning all the Chao.
Not a bad gig, honestly.
Not a bad gig, honestly.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
i guess GAF being Lavos would be a fair comparison, looking at the script.
Magus: 「いわばラヴォスのエサに
すぎなかったというわけだ。
我々人間、いや
Frog: 「じょうだんじゃねえ
てめえのかてになるために、みんな
生きてるわけじゃねえ！
That said, there are plenty of good people here. Even the ones you might have come to dislike are great people offsite or non-gaming threads. Don't be so quick to judge because those same people might teach you something about yourself.
Anyway, thought it was kinda funny Beef put me in charge of here when he didn't have internet, when I think he knew I don't post on GAF much anymore for various reasons.
Beef pls be better prez before they impeach you, ok?
It's just too bad that after a few bad experiences (Tales of Xillia, Tales of Xillia 2, Ni no Kuni, Xenoblade, Theatrhythm: FF, Shovel Knight, Sonic Lost World, Tales of the Abyss, etc.), I just keep my mouth shut instead of saying how I really feel so I just keep it to myself or here. Last thing I want is comparisons to Derrick (who's not as bad as a lot of people made him out to be) and I felt like things were getting to that point before I stopped posting a lot. Hence I started feeling excluded from a lot of things and just stopped posting because it takes me hours to write up those posts and I felt like I was outright wasting my time. People wanted to tell me how wrong I was as opposed to trying to see it from my perspective. So... whatevs; I can get better game talk elsewhere.
On that note, I can't wait until I import the new Tales game to... ahem... "lambaste it" because I "don't want the series to be successful in the west and for the games to sell poorly because tons and tons of people" read my posts "and then they'll decide not to buy it". If there's anything I'll ever take home from my active posting time on GAF, it's that, because it honestly makes me laugh that someone gets so much feels out of someone theoretically being mean to their favourite company or their favourite series.
For the record, a lot of the things I'm "mean to" seem to do well from what I've heard and seen.
I'll probably post in that import thread since I generally feel more comfortable in those ones. Less people, and people who just want to play the game for the game part of the game instead of romanticizing the thing and being afraid to be honest.
Hmm... I don't think I'm getting Sonic Boom. I need to save money for other things, and I think I want to put my local games budget towards other things. At this point, I don't think Sonic Boom looks like something I'd want to play in the next few months and it doesn't strike my fancy at all. Wish they'd show more of the 3DS version because the Wii U version looks like a damn bust.
Oh, btw, I posted my Gunvolt impressions on my Tumblr a few days after the Japanese release. I really liked it. I thought the story was a really crappy anime, and the endless text and flavour dialogue during the levels and boss fights got in the way so much so that I had to turn it off because it was bothersome as fuck. But other than that, I thought it was pretty good, albeit flawed. http://schalaasha.tumblr.com/post/95677206608/azure-striker-gunvolt-armed-blue-gunvolt-impressions
I didn't see the need to post them in the Japanese thread for it because kiryogi, Ryouga, and I were probably the few importers who liked it based on what a lot of us were saying off of GAF.
Magus: 「いわばラヴォスのエサに
すぎなかったというわけだ。
我々人間、いや
Frog: 「じょうだんじゃねえ
てめえのかてになるために、みんな
生きてるわけじゃねえ！
That said, there are plenty of good people here. Even the ones you might have come to dislike are great people offsite or non-gaming threads. Don't be so quick to judge because those same people might teach you something about yourself.
Anyway, thought it was kinda funny Beef put me in charge of here when he didn't have internet, when I think he knew I don't post on GAF much anymore for various reasons.
Beef pls be better prez before they impeach you, ok?
More like I got older and wiser and decided to be more honest instead of fluffing shit up because it's what people want to hear versus what I really think.
On that note, I can't wait until I import the new Tales game to... ahem... "lambaste it" because I "don't want the series to be successful in the west and for the games to sell poorly because tons and tons of people" read my posts "and then they'll decide not to buy it". If there's anything I'll ever take home from my active posting time on GAF, it's that, because it honestly makes me laugh that someone gets so much feels out of someone theoretically being mean to their favourite company or their favourite series.
For the record, a lot of the things I'm "mean to" seem to do well from what I've heard and seen.
I'll probably post in that import thread since I generally feel more comfortable in those ones. Less people, and people who just want to play the game for the game part of the game instead of romanticizing the thing and being afraid to be honest.
Hmm... I don't think I'm getting Sonic Boom. I need to save money for other things, and I think I want to put my local games budget towards other things. At this point, I don't think Sonic Boom looks like something I'd want to play in the next few months and it doesn't strike my fancy at all. Wish they'd show more of the 3DS version because the Wii U version looks like a damn bust.
Oh, btw, I posted my Gunvolt impressions on my Tumblr a few days after the Japanese release. I really liked it. I thought the story was a really crappy anime, and the endless text and flavour dialogue during the levels and boss fights got in the way so much so that I had to turn it off because it was bothersome as fuck. But other than that, I thought it was pretty good, albeit flawed. http://schalaasha.tumblr.com/post/95677206608/azure-striker-gunvolt-armed-blue-gunvolt-impressions
I didn't see the need to post them in the Japanese thread for it because kiryogi, Ryouga, and I were probably the few importers who liked it based on what a lot of us were saying off of GAF.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Not to mention almost everything you seem to import gets a localization announcement.
I think my favourite gaf conspiracy was when Bravely Default came out in America and someone accused everyone who played the Japanese and European releases of deliberately keeping quiet about how bad the later chapters are to trick people into buying it.On that note, I can't wait until I import the new Tales game to... ahem... "lambaste it" because I "don't want the series to be successful in the west and for the games to sell poorly because tons and tons of people" read my posts "and then they'll decide not to buy it". If there's anything I'll ever take home from my active posting time on GAF, it's that, because it honestly makes me laugh that someone gets so much feels out of someone theoretically being mean to their favourite company or their favourite series..
STILL WAITING ON TETRIS PUYO PUYO.
Hot Coldman
Banned
That's so silly, Schala
no-one reads your posts
no-one reads your posts
Nocturnowl
Member
The damning import impressions of recent Tales games were so fatal to eventual overseas sales that to take decisive action Namco claim to be giving Zesteria a worldwide release in 2015 to narrow the gap as much as they can, better step up your game princess, the window of opportunity to sully Zesteria's good name will be smaller than ever.
The conspiracy is real.
This actually being a thing tickles me greatly.
The conspiracy is real.
This actually being a thing tickles me greatly.
lol i was just playing some Modnation Racers. Very good game. one of my favorite racing games on the PS3. I think i like it better than Mario Kart Wii *to be quiet honest, Mario Kart Wii and Mario Kart 64 are the only two games that i can say that the clones were better than it* Modnation is no Crash Team Racing though. That game is the best.
I would love a Modnation Racers 2 on the PS4 with improved graphics, improved framerate* The framerate drops every once in a while, which gets annoying*, more areas, themes and stuff to make bigger, better race tracks, and more variety on the karts. *well i don't actually built karts or tracks, but i do download them*
edit: to Schala: What is wrong about shovel Knight and Sonic Lost World? a friend of mine offsite keeps on gushing about Shovel Knight and how it is like one of them old NES games. btw, nice avatar, where is it from?
I would love a Modnation Racers 2 on the PS4 with improved graphics, improved framerate* The framerate drops every once in a while, which gets annoying*, more areas, themes and stuff to make bigger, better race tracks, and more variety on the karts. *well i don't actually built karts or tracks, but i do download them*
edit: to Schala: What is wrong about shovel Knight and Sonic Lost World? a friend of mine offsite keeps on gushing about Shovel Knight and how it is like one of them old NES games. btw, nice avatar, where is it from?