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Sons of Anarchy - Season 6 - Tuesdays on FX

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Zaph

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Awful episode topping off a pretty poor season.

Sutter just doesn't know when to end a story and move on. Was abundantly clear when Opie shot Clay but didn't kill him. Leaving Opie with really no where to go as a character. Clay ended up being 'saved' again by the deus ex machina Danny Trejo CIA story, then saved again by the ridiculous Irish story. And for what? It's not like there was some grand plan that played out. He ended up dying in a similar way but as less of a character.

Gemma's character is awful and blatantly only still alive because of who Sagal's married to. All good will for how amazing her performance was in season 2 is gone. She's an annoyance who's only reason for existing is to keep the audience wondering when Jax will finally hear the truth of John Teller.

The more you think about it, the more you realise SoA is a show that relies on its audience having a terrible memory. Because the timeline is so compressed (didn't 3 seasons take place over a year?) compared to its airing, you don't realise how fucked everything really is. If Jax is the character the show pretends he is, he would realise his kids have been kidnapped, threatened, in a car crash and nearly blown up over the span of a couple years. He should have been begging Tara to take them away until at least the club was 'legit' (lol), instead Tara has to fake a miscarriage to drill home just how fucked everything is? Come on.

At least the end of the last season gave the audience a glimmer of hope the writers were a little bit self-aware of how unlikeable almost every character is (Chibs excluded ofc) by setting up Toric as a potential protagonist, a manifestation of all the innocents the club has murdered (directly and indirectly). But nope, couple episodes in and Toric is another crazy antagonist. Would have had so much respect for the show and Sutter if they ended the whole series with Toric killing almost everyone - all because of the incidental death of a nameless nurse.

Ugh, rant over. SoA could have been the next The Shield, if only the writers were a little bit more honest about their characters.
 

Arment

Member
God damn they killed off Tara is one of the most brutal ways I've seen on television. Holy. Fucking. Shit.

No more SoA for a while is a depressing thought.
 

inm8num2

Member
Why? They're sculpting him into the most ruthless killer on the show. Dude's a true enforcer.

He's an idiot and a coward. From all the shit in season 4 with his father, the coke, Miles, etc. to his recklessness in this season, he's just completely untrustworthy.

Maybe I'm being too harsh. Guys like Tig have fucked up as well.
 
I doubt it'll take long for them to pick up new roles, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they work on next.

The reason Rockmond was offed was because he got a role in something else.

Anyway, that was a fucking brutal end. Tara's demise was gruesome! Gemma needs to fucking die. Horribly. I don't think there's a more detestable character on tv right now. Glad Nero is done with her. Are they really gonna try and pin it on Jax? It makes no sense whatsoever. The bullets wouldn't match for a start.
 
The show is pretty bad when you think about it. It's real entertainment comes from gang hijinx and shock value.

But it's still entertaining enough to keep watching for those reasons. Anyway yeah Juice is annoying. Seems like helping Gemma was his last ditch effort to stay alive. Guess he thought Jax was going to have him killed no matter what so now maybe he will threaten to tell the club about Gemma unless she convinces them to keep him around.
 

Camp Lo

Banned
He's an idiot and a coward. From all the shit in season 4 with his father, the coke, Miles, etc. to his recklessness in this season, he's just completely untrustworthy.

Maybe I'm being too harsh. Guys like Tig have fucked up as well.

At this point, he'll do anything for the club even if its completely unwarranted. The betrayal comment is going to set him ablaze in season 7. He's completely un-fucking-predicable and I love it. Gotta embrace him, man! He's gonna be what Opie should have been.
 
He's an idiot and a coward. From all the shit in season 4 with his father, the coke, Miles, etc. to his recklessness in this season, he's just completely untrustworthy.

Maybe I'm being too harsh. Guys like Tig have fucked up as well.
Hard to say what direction they take Juice in. When he's motivated, he handles business. When he doesn't believe something is right, he takes shit to heart. I respect that, to be honest. Not everyone is cold enough to kill innocent people without conscience. He's not Tiggs or Happy. Someone who deserves it? No problem. I think they can find a place for him. They just need to stop asking him to do the dirtiest work ffs.
 
Awful episode topping off a pretty poor season.

Sutter just doesn't know when to end a story and move on. Was abundantly clear when Opie shot Clay but didn't kill him. Leaving Opie with really no where to go as a character. Clay ended up being 'saved' again by the deus ex machina Danny Trejo CIA story, then saved again by the ridiculous Irish story. And for what? It's not like there was some grand plan that played out. He ended up dying in a similar way but as less of a character.

Gemma's character is awful and blatantly only still alive because of who Sagal's married to. All good will for how amazing her performance was in season 2 is gone. She's an annoyance who's only reason for existing is to keep the audience wondering when Jax will finally hear the truth of John Teller.

The more you think about it, the more you realise SoA is a show that relies on its audience having a terrible memory. Because the timeline is so compressed (didn't 3 seasons take place over a year?) compared to its airing, you don't realise how fucked everything really is. If Jax is the character the show pretends he is, he would realise his kids have been kidnapped, threatened, in a car crash and nearly blown up over the span of a couple years. He should have been begging Tara to take them away until at least the club was 'legit' (lol), instead Tara has to fake a miscarriage to drill home just how fucked everything is? Come on.

At least the end of the last season gave the audience a glimmer of hope the writers were a little bit self-aware of how unlikeable almost every character is (Chibs excluded ofc) by setting up Toric as a potential protagonist, a manifestation of all the innocents the club has murdered (directly and indirectly). But nope, couple episodes in and Toric is another crazy antagonist. Would have had so much respect for the show and Sutter if they ended the whole series with Toric killing almost everyone - all because of the incidental death of a nameless nurse.

Ugh, rant over. SoA could have been the next The Shield, if only the writers were a little bit more honest about their characters.
Toric had so much potential. I get what they were trying to do with him - they want to make a world with no heroes and villains, where everyone is varying shades of gray - but like every quasi-moral authority figure (see also: Stahl) they end up being more monster than hero. Hale was really the only squeaky clean antagonist and look how unceremonious his death was. It's like Sutter is afraid to make his villains sympathetic.
 
This episode had me in shock afterwards. I honestly thought Gemma was just going to shoot Tara when she walked in the door and maybe wound her or something. Then when Tara was standing there looking I was thinking maybe a gun would pop into the scene. I did not expect what went down. Then when Roosevelt was shot I was in even more disbelief.

I can honestly say for the next hour our so afterwards I didn't even know how the fuck to feel about all this. At the same time I'm not surprised I mean how many characters survived in the shield? Like 2?

I though juice was going to try and take teh rap for it and let Jax kill him but nope. This show is a fucking wildcard. You can expect something to happen and it hardly plays our like you expect.

Jax needs to find out that Gemma did this. Jax needs to be the one to kill Gemma it is the only way this can play out with any sort of redemption. Unser needs to die also and not by cancer someone needs to kill his ass.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Season 7 needs to be 13 episodes of Jax slowly killing Gemma. It's the only thing that would get both the audience and Kurt Sutter off.
 
Wow, what a finale.

I just knew Tara would die, it was etched in stone from the moment her plan against Gemma began to unravel, such a shame too, she was pretty much the only redeemable character in the show of late...and rather surprising that she wasn't Jax's true North. She was pretty much the only person in the show who actually cared enough about him to want him away from Charming, his mother and the club. She was still dropping truth bombs until the very end. Damn, I'll miss her...

I thought the intro monologue was interesting. "everything I do, I do for my sons". You nearly got me Sutter. You almost had me believing he was talking about the club...

Juice...Juice is beyond hope at this point. Needs to put out of his misery, Nero, get on that ish. Speaking of Nero, wonder where he goes from here? He's now seemingly balls deep back in the life and it definitely feels like there's a clash coming with Jax. Shame it didn't happen in this episode...So glad that he dumped Gemma though. So glad, the further he gets away from that train-wreck, the better....

Unser, This guy. This fucking guy. How the fuck is he still alive? How?????

Gemma. What to say? Guess she really isn't all talk, but goddamn... She needs to die next season and preferably at Jax's hands. She needs to go.

Overall, not the greatest season, but it still good and some definite shocks throughout. Hope next season is the last though, there's really nowhere left to go...
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
Season 7 needs to be 13 episodes of Jax slowly killing Gemma. It's the only thing that would get both the audience and Kurt Sutter off.
He'll probably confront her and point a gun at her and she'll somehow convince him not to shoot her. Then she'll say she was with the feds all along and all charges against him are dropped.
 

Zaph

Member
He'll probably confront her and point a gun at her and she'll somehow convince him not to shoot her. Then she'll say she was with the feds all along and all charges against him are dropped.
...and the Irish will need her because she's the last of some sacred blood line who are the only ones able to defeat the British. And CIA.
 

Camp Lo

Banned
Gemma's character is awful and blatantly only still alive because of who Sagal's married to

Absolutely. It's a shame really, as knowing that really makes any real threat to her character a joke. She'll go to Mexico (or wherever she went the first time) till her catalytic tendencies are needed again.
 
It's really sad though because while Gemma was a bitch in the early seasons, I always had some sympathy for her and what she had been through in life. It's pretty impressive how I absolutely despise her now and if she was gang raped again wouldn't give a shit. I feel like Sutter has retroactively made me never want to rewatch this show again to see how the missed potential slipped away. On another note, I don't expect breaking bad from this show but did anyone feel like the cinematography was particularly bad last night?
 

Zaph

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Absolutely. It's a shame really, as knowing that really makes any real threat to her character a joke. She'll go to Mexico (or wherever she went the first time) till her catalytic tendencies are needed again.
Totally. And if Sutter is somehow forced to kill her off, expect twice as many montages so he can cram in as much of her singing covers as possible.

It's really sad though because while Gemma was a bitch in the early seasons, I always had some sympathy for her and what she had been through in life. It's pretty impressive how I absolutely despise her now and if she was gang raped again wouldn't give a shit. I feel like Sutter has retroactively made me never want to rewatch this show again to see how the missed potential slipped away. On another note, I don't expect breaking bad from this show but did anyone feel like the cinematography was particularly bad last night?
Barring the gang rape thing (not cool) I completely agree. Cinematography has been going downhill as the scripts got longer - more stuff to shoot but I doubt they're getting more time to shoot it.
 
GOD

DAYUM

*edit* I felt like the cinematography was the way it was due to the episode's content. We saw the faces of these people more closely than I think we've seen all season.

I'm glad it was Jimmy Fuckin Smits who delivered the line about Karma. Any other person doing it would have come off as ham fisted as fuck.

Best thing they did this season was bring in Amanda Waller. God damn. Her and Smits and Unser should have a show.

Juice is the biggest surprise though. Complete wild card. I feel like he shot the cop not just to save Gemma, but because that cop put him in a bad situation in like, what? The 4th season I think? So that was him ending that shit. Everything that Juice has unraveled about began from the cop black mailing him.
 

Escape Goat

Member
Gemma should have said "Stick a fork in ya. You're done, sister!" when she delivered the coup de grace.

Everything that Juice has unraveled about began from the cop black mailing him.

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Sanjay

Member
FUCK UNSER AND GEMMA!!! As soon as Unser told Gemma I knew they were going to kill off Tara. From that part on I was standing and yelling at my tv "You better not kill her!!!".

Same, the show is fucking trash now, contrived shit and I just want it to end.

Oh fucking really Gemma just happens to be at Tara's house, why the fuck would Gemma even think she would be at home, as she was in hiding trying to do deals. ugh.

So now Gemma teller has killed Jax Teller's father and now the mother of his son, next season all she has left to do is kill the remaining Teller family members.

Up until that moment I thought they were going to try reboot the series by doing a flash forward of years after the release of Jax from jail. Like what Mentalist is trying to do.

If people dont like the show anymore why are they wathcing?

We want a conclusion, closure so we can move on.
 
Totally. And if Sutter is somehow forced to kill her off, expect twice as many montages so he can cram in as much of her singing covers as possible.


Barring the gang rape thing (not cool) I completely agree. Cinematography has been going downhill as the scripts got longer - more stuff to shoot but I doubt they're getting more time to shoot it.

Sorry wasn't making light of it. I just meant that if that storyline had happened now instead of season 2 it would have no impact due to what they've done witjh the character.
 
Sorry wasn't making light of it. I just meant that if that storyline had happened now instead of season 2 it would have no impact due to what they've done witjh the character.

Gemma has always been like that though. Even in the first season she was terrible and it shouldn't have taken this long for jax to be done with her.
 
My impossible hope for the end of this season was that Jax would go away even though Tara was killed, and we'll have a flash forward ten years to when his sons are older and we can see the outcome of a life without their mother and in the hands of their wicked grandma/motorcycle club. I know that can't really happen due to believability since age makeup won't holdup for a whole season, but it would be so cool to see Jax come back after ten years to see what a wreck his legacy has become.
 
I seriously don't remember how the show use to be in the first few seasons.


What I hate is how Unser sees Gemma obviously looking not right, somehow manages to tell her about Tara and loses sight of her by falling for one of her obvious ruses. It's like he still hasn't learned from being manipulate from her and it's not like he hasn't called her out on her bullshit before. That's the contrivance that smart viewers fucking hate.
 

Satchel

Banned
Fuck you Sutter.

What is it with the new "in thing" being to retroactively ruin your entire series with the final episodes?

I mean, Tara's death was so completely unnecessary and pointless and for me at least, has ruined what was otherwise a great show.

Season 7 can go fuck itself now.
 

waypoetic

Banned
I don't know what to FEEL anymore. When we finally get a happy ending (or at least we thought we'd get one for a sec), Sutter turns it all into a total mess. It's like they had it all in a neat pile of "this is good shit!" and then Sutter comes in the room, grabs the last pages of the script, reads it and spits the writers in their faces and says "GEMMA IS MA GURL! ... NO! Fuck that bitch Tara! KILL HER! Change the ending to THAT! I'm out, i'ma grab a steak.."
 

RangersFan

Member
Finally putting Gemma front and center as the true villain she's always been, I like that. Telegraphing that death the moment Unser walking into her kitchen, poor writing. Eli's death ended up being the biggest shocker. wtf is Juice's motivation at this point? Is he trying to hurt Jax? or Just helping the MC mother? or both? Is the deal with Claudette off now? or are they gonna go into ridiculous territory now for the final season in trying Jax for Eli's murder?
 
I thought he shot Eli as he saw Gemma as his only way to stay in the club/SamCro.

He now has that over Gemma and I'm sure he'll be quick to pull the strings should he face any serious heat from the others. Hopefully Nero tortures him at some point and gets the info before killing him.
 

Tetra-9

Member
Definitely loved the episode. Gemma is such a crazy lady, still would fuck her. Never liked Tara much but man no one deserves... that.

There's something about this show that's just exciting. Quite often I'm driven to exclaiming 'holy shit' or laughing in some sort of maniacal fashion.
 
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