Sony confirms monthly PS5 players eclipses PS4 players for the first time

5 years. Slowest conversion rate of any Playstation, I wonder? Makes sense.
i think people will jump every 2 gen instead of 1 now.

not surprise if the remaining ps4 users skips ps5 and jumps to ps6.
Sony MAU strategy makes sense now.

Cross platform between ps5 and ps6 will last even longer.
 
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People buy when there is a game they want. For example, fighting game customers had no reason to buy PS5 until Tokon got announced. The slower games come out, the slower the conversion rate.

Which is why it is not possible for next gen to come out anytime soon. The generations HAVE to last longer due to many factors and in any case devs haven't squeezed everything out of current hardware yet.
 
Not saying this just because I am a big Metal Gear fan, but I think the one thing that really affected PS5 was the fact that it didn't have an exclusive system seller MG game - like MGS6.
 
This gen shift doesn't really kick off until GTA6 comes out next year.

Second half of 2026 is when things will truly tilt forward for the better.
 
i think people will jump every 2 gen instead of 1 now.

not surprise if the remaining ps4 users skips ps5 and jumps to ps6.
Sony MAU strategy makes sense now.

Cross platform between ps5 and ps6 will last even longer.
This honestly makes me really curious what their plans are for PS6 in regards to this. They can't go the PS5 Pro route. A $700 box isn't going to incentivize people to jump right away.

I've owned every Sony console they ever made (even Vita TV, but not PS5 Pro) but I'm at the point where PS6 needs to really be something more than more power at a higher price for me to bat and eye and be there early on.
 
5 years. Slowest conversion rate of any Playstation, I wonder? Makes sense.
Most played games are live service games who are playable on last gen devices. Add to that the fact the PS5 don't have a permanent price drop until now, but a permanent price hike in some regions.

All that said, they are still growing their MAU and the convertion rate for PS5 is getting higher.
 
This honestly makes me really curious what their plans are for PS6 in regards to this. They can't go the PS5 Pro route. A $700 box isn't going to incentivize people to jump right away.

I've owned every Sony console they ever made (even Vita TV, but not PS5 Pro) but I'm at the point where PS6 needs to really be something more than more power at a higher price for me to bat and eye and be there early on.
The only think i can think of are very good launch ps6 games, better than ps5 ones.

Perhaps the promised of standard 60fps games moving forward?

Or just remain the price at 499-599 max.
 
Most played games are live service games who are playable on last gen devices. Add to that the fact the PS5 don't have a permanent price drop until now, but a permanent price hike in some regions.
It is that, but it's also that the AAA producers this gen have been too slow and underwhelming with actually new games to justify the move.
 
How many players plays PS4 games VS PS5 games generally?

I'm mostly only playing PS4 games on my PS5 since it allows use of DS4
 
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A bit surprising, but I am currently also playing PS4 games on my PS5 myself. lol

There might not be huge money in it, but Sony should have had a Steamdeck equivalent PS4P for some time now. If not planned from the start, during Covid and expanding cross gen ideas, they should have thought about it. Could have also powered a PSVR untethered. Which would also have needed them to port every VR1 game to VR2 controls but that's pratically dead anyway. And with the PS6 transition I expect a lot of people even less eager to upgrade if whatever it improves is again just a bit more convenient and finer, so basically still a PS4, but Pro Ultra Premium Plus.
 
When you go from a hot chick to her fatter woker younger sister
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Wait for the next gen then, games will release on PS5 + PS6 + PS7
I mentioned this before. But by certain metrics, PS2 is actually 200 times more powerful than PS1. Moores Law had been justifying hardware upgrades for decades, but now this is going away. There is no longer easy, cheap and powerful upgrades that directly make the previous gen obsolete.

This also happens with handhelds, which is why the Switch 2 is so expensive. This is just the reality of tech right now. We had spend decades assuming everything would keep getting better, and now we hit a wall of physics.
 
5 years. Slowest conversion rate of any Playstation, I wonder? Makes sense.

PS5 is selling at the same pace as the PS4 and will easily overtake it with GTA6.

More people are still using PS4 than past generations because of live service games and annual release titles such as sports games and CoD...

Black Ops 3 was the last CoD released on PS3 in 2015... 3 years after the PS4 launched. 5 years into the PS5 and CoD is still releasing on PS4.
 
PS5 is selling at the same pace as the PS4 and will easily overtake it with GTA6.

More people are still using PS4 than past generations because of live service games and annual release titles such as sports games and CoD...

Black Ops 3 was the last CoD released on PS3 in 2015... 3 years after the PS4 launched. 5 years into the PS5 and CoD is still releasing on PS4.

I think the trolls forgot that we have actual sales numbers 😂


Thought this was a good time to act like PS4's continued support is a bad thing 😭


Also again proof of NeoGaf's detachment from reality because just a few weeks ago they told me it wasn't many Last Gen only gamers here


 
We always knew the PS4 was going to have a very long life. It's not exactly a slouch in the gaming department. I can see devs making games for it for some years yet.
 
i think people will jump every 2 gen instead of 1 now.

not surprise if the remaining ps4 users skips ps5 and jumps to ps6.
Sony MAU strategy makes sense now.

Cross platform between ps5 and ps6 will last even longer.
I am in that group. Had a PS4 and no intention of buying a PS5 now. Only game I 'must have' is Death Stranding 2 which will come to PC eventually.
I rather buy a new graphic card than PS5 or buy PS6 Year2.
 
They wanted this to be the fastest transition to a new generation ever, instead it took them five years just to get the majority of players moved to next gen

Stellar
 
5 years. Slowest conversion rate of any Playstation, I wonder? Makes sense.
I hate selling and buying consoles so I'll likely be playing on my PS5 far into the PS6 gen and then maybe during PS7 get a new console. #team_vintage

They wanted this to be the fastest transition to a new generation ever, instead it took them five years just to get the majority of players moved to next gen

Stellar
Some seem to forget how heckin' troublesome it was getting a PS5 during the covid years. I paid far more for mine than what I would have cared for during normal times and I bought it from a store, not a scalper. There were also not many PS5 exclusives during that time so I remember my colleague having had no real reason to upgrade from his PS4. Weird times and we still feel the repercussions from the pandemic.
 
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Unexpected since we had a global pandemic which would have stifled console growth, and inflation resulting in people being more conservative with their spending. We could see another 7-8 year generation like with the seventh generation consoles
 
Happens when you ignore the reason why your previous console succeeded.
Good thing Microsoft is too busy sorting themselves in their feet repeatedly or this would have been another PS3 disaster situation.
 
Happens when you ignore the reason why your previous console succeeded.
Good thing Microsoft is too busy sorting themselves in their feet repeatedly or this would have been another PS3 disaster situation.
So unless everyone trashes their switch 1 in less than a year, switch 2 will be considered a failure? Lol.
 
5 years. Slowest conversion rate of any Playstation, I wonder? Makes sense.
Crossgen period was brutal af this time.
The slower games come out, the slower the conversion rate.
This gen shift doesn't really kick off until GTA6 comes out next year.

Second half of 2026 is when things will truly tilt forward for the better.
They wanted this to be the fastest transition to a new generation ever, instead it took them five years just to get the majority of players moved to next gen

Stellar
Amazing that this logic is somehow still lost.
If you sold 120M in 7 years and are projected to sell another 120M in 7 years, what do you think would be the number of users 3.5 years in? It's a slow conversion rate precisely because PS4 sold THAT much, you just can't reasonably make those 120M users transition to the next console in a lot less time than it took the past generation to sell as much.
 
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Amazing that this logic is somehow still lost.
If you sold 120M in 7 years and are projected to sell another 120M in 7 years, what do you think would be the number of users 3.5 years in? It's a slow conversion rate precisely because PS4 sold THAT much, you just can't reasonably make those 120M users transition to the next console in a lot less time than it took the past generation to sell as much.
We fully understand that ppl who bought ps4 late in the gen will not go for ps5 as soon as it launches, we meant the dev output in terms of current gen games only, that was terrible this gen coz crossgenperiod was too long.
 
We fully understand that ppl who bought ps4 late in the gen will not go for ps5 as soon as it launches, we meant the dev output in terms of current gen games only, that was terrible this gen coz crossgenperiod was too long.
Sure, but cross-gen hardly had any impact by the looks of it.
 
What's the benefit of going from Xbox to ps5 right Now ?????Sony is not releasing any thing of substance and Microsoft has Gamepass ….Why would a gamer Not some fanboy crap go from Xbox to ps5 ??

Maybe because they want to continue buying games (not everything is on gamepass) and they are worried of losing their digital games with how uncertain Xbox's future is. Maybe they always wanted to play PS games but wanted MS games more but now they can just go to PS and get both? Maybe their friend left the ecosystem and they are following?
 
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If all you care about is live service slop then you can get away with a ps4.

Heck it might be one of the simplest and cheapest way to play stuff like roblox.
 
After 77 million units sold? Just how many PS4 are out there active?
It's hard to say.

Sony are being weird how the report the ps4 in that specific slide.

Just have a look at the below, they are basically including anything that isn't a ps5 in the ps4 part. Atleast that's how i'm reading it. Some bizzarre way to report the ps4 bit.

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Maybe because they want to continue buying games (not everything is on gamepass) and they are worried of losing their digital games with how uncertain Xbox's future is. Maybe they always wanted to play PS games but wanted MS games more but now they can just go to PS and get both? Maybe their friend left the ecosystem and they are following?
How are there future uncertain because they doing it differently then Sony with that Nintendo future would be uncertain…..But you said refugees I only ask the benefits at this point ?? Btw Microsoft has the best digital library outside of PC …
 
i think people will jump every 2 gen instead of 1

Cross platform between ps5 and ps6 will last even longer.
Part of the problem with not advancing with the gen here, the most cross platform games exist, the less incentive to move to the next (current) system is there to players
 
Not saying this just because I am a big Metal Gear fan, but I think the one thing that really affected PS5 was the fact that it didn't have an exclusive system seller MG game - like MGS6.
PS4 didn't have this either. MGSV was available on PS3, 360, XB1, and PC in addition to PS4, all on Day One.
 
i think people will jump every 2 gen instead of 1 now.

not surprise if the remaining ps4 users skips ps5 and jumps to ps6.
Sony MAU strategy makes sense now.

Cross platform between ps5 and ps6 will last even longer.

Don't be so sure

Covid caused huge delays with game development, we got games on PS5 that should have been PS4 only a year or two before release.
 
They wanted this to be the fastest transition to a new generation ever, instead it took them five years just to get the majority of players moved to next gen

Stellar

So is that a good or bad thing? All things considered..........I'd say Sony is on the right track.
 
And the cycle will repeat with the PS5 and PS6. The first years of the PS6 will mostly be supported by being the best place to play the actual "next gen" games from the later half of the PS5. It is what it is.
 
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