Yes.I think it's idiotic that Playstation and Xbox also charge the top prices for digital games, it makes me question why anyone would get a digital only PS5 over a disk drive one, your completely trapped in purchasing games from the PS Store at these huge prices.
Yes.
The real con is not the 30% commission, it's the artificially maintained high prices of games on the digital store when you can buy the same title in disc form at retail for 50% cheaper.
Horizon: Forbidden West -> PSN £70, JohnLewis|Argos|etc £35
Ratchet & Clank: Rifts Apart -> PSN £70, JohnLewis|Argos|etc £35
Selling direct & digital supposed to cut out the cost of intermediated distribution as well as cost of physical media manufacturing. There is no economic reason why the digital version should not be cheaper. It's purely predatory anti-consumer B2B cartel-like behavior.
I have a digital PS5. My brother has a digital PS5. Horizon FW day one cost me £30. Elden Ring day one cost me £25.
Whatever happens, the consumer still loses paying the same price for digital games so I can't say I really care for these battles.
By going halves with his brother probably.Agreed, but how does Banjo64 get these prices:
Doesn't matter what it cost you in some roundabout way; the game was never on sale for £30 on the store.I have a digital PS5. My brother has a digital PS5. Horizon FW day one cost me £30. Elden Ring day one cost me £25.
You don't think Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are taking a risk?Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Apple, Steam, etc... if I'm not mistaken, all of them charge 30% commission. That is way too excessive. All of them deserved to be sued...
Publishers and developers deserve a bigger cut of the profits, since they are taking all the risks and are actually developing the game.
Cool.Doesn't matter what it cost you in some roundabout way; the game was never on sale for £30 on the store.
Ms. Neill is coming for them all. First she’ll sue the platform holders, when there’s no change in consumer prices she’ll sue the publishers and then finally the developers. It’s time to clean house #proconsumerWhatever happens, the consumer still loses paying the same price for digital games so I can't say I really care for these battles.
I’ve never seen that before, got any links for digital Nintendo Games on Amazon?About damn time.
It can’t be right that the only way I can purchase a digital game on my PlayStation is via the psn store.
Whereas on switch and Xbox, I can buy codes from legit vendors like Amazon, game collection etc.
Why they have digital ps5 or how they can get it for that price?Why?
Gameshare
Same reason i buy everything digitally
I’ve never seen that before, got any links for digital Nintendo Games on Amazon?
Yeah let Sony make more money and us the consumer pay more way to go EinsteinFuck that. The market is obviously willing to pay for it so why lower prices? Isn't that the whole point of competition? I mean, nobody is stopping any other company to start their gaming business and improve pricing (lol).
I particularly disliked when the interviewee tried to paint vidyas as something basic for people. I mean, fuck off.
I’ve never seen that before, got any links for digital Nintendo Games on Amazon?
Yeah let Sony make more money and us the consumer pay more way to go Einstein
itch.io charges 10% by default to add to this.Platform splits
Epic is 12% (caps to 18% if you are using UE)
Steam starts 30% and goes down to 20% if you hit 50m revenue (not sure if this is at a publisher or game level)
MS apps and PC games is 12%
PS, Switch and Xbox is 30%
iOS/Android one off purchases - 30%, 27% if you use a third-party payment processor*
iOS/Android subscription - first year 30%, after 12months, it gets dropped to 15%. Think the same 3% reduction applies if you use a third-party payment processor
* might be applicable in certain markets and/or certain categories of apps
Feel free to correct me.
Lol must be epic brainwashed fanboys, fucking sad.
That article is a joke. Is not the consumers that get ripped off by the 30% tax, its the publishers that put the games on the store. And all stores charge a 30% tax, except Epic as far as i know.
The 30% fee that's industry standard for decades?
Why they have digital ps5 or how they can get it for that price?
The latter is because of game share.
You get two copies for the price of one.
Me and my Gf does the same. We have to only pay one copy for us both to play.
Why they have digital ps5 or how they can get it for that price?
The latter is because of game share.
You get two copies for the price of one.
Me and my Gf does the same. We have to only pay one copy for us both to play.
Only if one of them is vindictive and goes out of there way to deactivate the other account.You’re not getting two copies of the game.
Only one account “owns” the game.
If you and your girlfriend break up, only one of you will have the game.
Only if one of them is vindictive and goes out of there way to deactivate the other account.
What about VAT? The state adds to the "ripoff" and "abuses" their position. I can't even import a console from Germany without increasing its cost since their vat differs from ours. In the free market EU where everything needs to be equal unless it doesn't!https://news.sky.com/story/sony-pla...it-ripped-off-nine-million-consumers-12678949
Apparently charging 30% commission for sales on PlayStation store is a ripoff and an abuse of their position.
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Yep, we still had FFVII release at £70 on that store.If Sony droped the tax to 12% like Epic, nothing would change to the consumers, we would still pay the same price for games and DLC. Its the publishers that would get more money from each sale.
Yes of course.Can you both play the game at the same time?
If our 3 year old kid scratches my discs with her toys then neither of us are able to play it.You’re not getting two copies of the game.
Only one account “owns” the game.
If you and your girlfriend break up, only one of you will have the game.
You don't think Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are taking a risk?
MS, Sony and Nintendo's risk is developing the systems these games can exist on that often run at a hardware cost loss and are made up for in royalties.
Surely developing actual hardware and an entire platform must be infinitely more risky than making a single game for said platforms?
Every single developer are free to create their own platform if they want to and think it’s feasible, yet we are stuck with MS, Sony and Nintendo.
You say this like the console makers are the only ones racking in record profits from this setup. It's no different than the relationship between movie studios and theaters. You should be grateful the big three still have the relevance they do or we'd be stuck with lord knows how many subscriptions popping up constantly.... and yet Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft are making record profits, and more and more publishers and developers are closing or selling out.
If our 3 year old kid scratches my discs with her toys then neither of us are able to play it.
Patches are sent to the customer on physical discs then? Sounds inconvenient and wasteful.I bet it is still cheaper to print the discs and make packaging rather than cost of servers and uphold.
physical all the way !
of course the consumer doesn't really get anything from this. But any digital storefront owner getting 30% is unfair.Yet, the games on EPIC are the same price as everywhere else.
That's sensible at least.Valve takes less the more successful your game is so it's not quite true that only epic takes less than 30%, also Epic don't let people use payment options with high transaction costs that valve do.
I mean sure you can make bank, but it’s not like that’s always the case at all. Nintendo have had loads of failures over the years, Sony were in the red and bleeding money for the entire PS3 generation, people constantly complain MS isn’t profitable.. Prior savings or being able to inject cash from other business sectors have likely saved all three several times over.and yet Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft are making record profits, and more and more publishers and developers are closing or selling out
The profits are because of the 30% and subscription services, and you can't just base it on right now, all these companies have struggled at times, and the 30% is what kept them alive.... and yet Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft are making record profits, and more and more publishers and developers are closing or selling out.
Not even going to mention the profits of Apple or Steam...
As if game prices would drop if they didn't charge the 30%.
Not sure if that is the same in Europe but I agree with this attorney, 30% is way too high.How much do lawyers get paid in class action lawsuits?
Generally, most class-action gcases pay out attorney fees out of the compensation award given to the class is what is called a “common fund.” Judges presiding over a common-law case usually approve the compensatory amount, and it’s usually around 25-33 percent of the total award.
Generally, most class-action gcases pay out attorney fees out of the compensation award given to the class is what is called a “common fund.” Judges presiding over a common-law case usually approve the compensatory amount, and it’s usually around 25-33 percent of the totoal award. However, the reason that class members don’t get to distribute 75 percent of the award is because that 25-percent fee applies to each attorney that represents the class. And not many class-action suits feature a single attorney.