Bluemercury
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AniHawk said:
Are you sure he's the same person? :lol
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Are you sure he's the same person? :lol
Virgin Wii
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Bluemercury said:
He hasn't been the same since Nintendo started saying they weren't competing for power (which was before the 3xGCN Perrin quote). Ever since, he's been going on about how Nintendo is doomed. The sad thing is, his hate is so strong that you can see how badly Nintendo's situation has affected his psyche. It's like his world just shattered.
wobedraggled
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Wario64 said:
sorry captain
The Experiment said:
A fundamental part of the debate is making sure that every aspect of your argument is correct or at least based on some fairly sound supposition. When you make such a ridiculously stupid statement (maybe you haven't seen the numbers for Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, and incidentally Emerald as well), it pretty much nullifies everything else you have to say, which is a pity because you had a few fairly sound arguments in that biased rant.
Nevertheless, Sony has to turn it around in Japan somehow. They can't afford to wait too long. I'll talk about the US once the May NPD data shows up.
Duckhuntdog
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Odnetnin said:
Fragdoll -Jinx-???
Kobun Heat
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heavens no.Duckhuntdog said:
Also, while I'm in here:
The thing you think will happen probably won't happen, and the thing you think won't happen probably will happen. Funny that.
Kobun Heat
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Logic. Sony's not going to make a PSP that can't play video/MP3/JPG. The very thought is absurd. If anything they'll add functionality. And for all the PSP is equipped to do, it's odd that it doesn't have a hard drive in the first place. And since Sony's already talked about doing new iterations of the hardware...AniHawk said:
...although, the Fragdoll "Jinx" is clearly a fan of Wallguy:
1) I have no opinion on earlier generations of Nintendo games -- never played them, except very sparingly at friends' houses, but they seemed like a lot of fun. I owned Sega consoles growing up...but simply because those were what my parents happened to buy for the kids.
2) I have no opinion on the Gamecube whatsoever. I barely have time for console gaming as it is.
3) I'm a huge fan of the GBA SP -- good size, OUTSTANDING games, great battery life, great form factor, and -- now -- a great fun-to-price ratio for the console itself. It's not perfect, but it has been wonderful to take on business trips.
4) I do NOT like the DS, and compared to the PSP, it's even more disappointing. Bad form factor, bad ergonomics, unattractive style, and no games which particularly interest me in the near future. The PSP is also far from perfect, but it's light-years better than the DS. Since PSP vs. DS has consumed a shitload of energy on the board lately, it's no surprise that many of my posts have been on that topic.
5) I question some of Nintendo's recent business decisions (GBA Micro, E3 strategy), but obviously the jury is still out on whether those choices will be judged as wise in the long run. Business strategy is an interest of mine (although clearly my industry works differently), so I'm going to have an opinion on a lot of the goings-on. (I'd have more to say about Microsoft, except that the X360 buzz has virtually disappeared lately.)
6) It's not even possible to HAVE a knowledgable opinion about Revolution yet, but I find it very funny that it spawns so much unbounded speculation. Mr. Godot won't be here today, but certainly tomorrow...
7) Some of the people I dislike the most on this board happen to be rabid Nintendo fans. (Or ***-Agers. Or both.) One of these days, I ought to just post the fucking list and have it out with some people -- it would save me a lot of time. I don't have anything again Nintendo fans as a group -- they put out some good games, and of COURSE people are going to have an affection for a company they likely grew up with as gamers. But my tolerance for some of the idiocy is wearing thin.
For what it's worth, PC gaming gets the biggest chunk of my time when I'm at home, and the GBA and PSP split my portable gaming time when I'm on the road, which is more frequently than I'd like. If I spend five hours TOTAL on games during a week, then it's been a relaxing week -- I'm too busy for that kind of shit anymore, which is a shame.
So, yeah, that's it. This has been a waste, of course, since the people giving me shit made up their minds about me a long time ago.
The link provided for my "Sony" posts yielded no results, but I looked back over the "Nintendo" posts, and I think they are entirely consistent with my views on Nintendo. Although the irony of having to explain myself hasn't escaped me, here goes:Teddman said:
1) I have no opinion on earlier generations of Nintendo games -- never played them, except very sparingly at friends' houses, but they seemed like a lot of fun. I owned Sega consoles growing up...but simply because those were what my parents happened to buy for the kids.
2) I have no opinion on the Gamecube whatsoever. I barely have time for console gaming as it is.
3) I'm a huge fan of the GBA SP -- good size, OUTSTANDING games, great battery life, great form factor, and -- now -- a great fun-to-price ratio for the console itself. It's not perfect, but it has been wonderful to take on business trips.
4) I do NOT like the DS, and compared to the PSP, it's even more disappointing. Bad form factor, bad ergonomics, unattractive style, and no games which particularly interest me in the near future. The PSP is also far from perfect, but it's light-years better than the DS. Since PSP vs. DS has consumed a shitload of energy on the board lately, it's no surprise that many of my posts have been on that topic.
5) I question some of Nintendo's recent business decisions (GBA Micro, E3 strategy), but obviously the jury is still out on whether those choices will be judged as wise in the long run. Business strategy is an interest of mine (although clearly my industry works differently), so I'm going to have an opinion on a lot of the goings-on. (I'd have more to say about Microsoft, except that the X360 buzz has virtually disappeared lately.)
6) It's not even possible to HAVE a knowledgable opinion about Revolution yet, but I find it very funny that it spawns so much unbounded speculation. Mr. Godot won't be here today, but certainly tomorrow...
7) Some of the people I dislike the most on this board happen to be rabid Nintendo fans. (Or ***-Agers. Or both.) One of these days, I ought to just post the fucking list and have it out with some people -- it would save me a lot of time. I don't have anything again Nintendo fans as a group -- they put out some good games, and of COURSE people are going to have an affection for a company they likely grew up with as gamers. But my tolerance for some of the idiocy is wearing thin.
For what it's worth, PC gaming gets the biggest chunk of my time when I'm at home, and the GBA and PSP split my portable gaming time when I'm on the road, which is more frequently than I'd like. If I spend five hours TOTAL on games during a week, then it's been a relaxing week -- I'm too busy for that kind of shit anymore, which is a shame.
So, yeah, that's it. This has been a waste, of course, since the people giving me shit made up their minds about me a long time ago.
Weird how serach engine links work at GA... Here's a freshie:-jinx- said:
http://www.ga-forum.com/search.php?searchid=320217
I don't know if I necessarily would say you're a Sony fanboy, I think labels like that are (usually) unfair. You've mentioned before that you never owned a Nintendo system until the GBA, I'm sure I'd think less of them too if that were the case with me...
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I'm just surprised you think the DS has poor ergonomics, I've found the PSP to be an outright painful thing to use after 1 435-50 minute turn of lumines (I'm not very good)
Kabuki Waq
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wow man this thread is brutal keep it up guys :lol
Ninja Scooter
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Jinx and Darien have been laying a smackdown on some posters here lately. They are like WWF 80s era tag team Strike Force, before they got their asses kicked by Demolition.
Kabuki Waq
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Ninja Scooter said:
not in this thread. Seems like Azih is distracting the ref while Teddman is going for the chair.
Ninja Scooter
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Kabuki Waq said:
WHERE'S DARIEN?
Holy shit, get off the man's back. Funny how so many people take things personally when things in your camp don't go the way you want, then choose a random whipping boy in the thread for distraction. There are lots of people around here with spectacular biases (Gahiggidy) - but -jinx- ain't one of them, and his posting record proves it.
Kabuki Waq
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:lol
LMAO Jinx is Tito Santana that means Darien is RICK THE MODEL MARTEL!!!
ARROGANCE!
LMAO Jinx is Tito Santana that means Darien is RICK THE MODEL MARTEL!!!
ARROGANCE!
Weird how the PSP is doing better in North America where only the "value" pack is available, while in Japan it's doing pretty poorly (relatively).
And I don't understand why games such as Goemon or Castlevania can't be released on the PSP. Namco released ToE, didn't they? I'd kill for a high-res 2D/semi 3D version of either game.
It's like with the PSP you can't get PS2-caliber games (like RE or MGS), nor can you get simpler 2D games (like the GBA and DS).
And I don't understand why games such as Goemon or Castlevania can't be released on the PSP. Namco released ToE, didn't they? I'd kill for a high-res 2D/semi 3D version of either game.
It's like with the PSP you can't get PS2-caliber games (like RE or MGS), nor can you get simpler 2D games (like the GBA and DS).
The reason I'm puzzled is that it would seem to have the potential to take marketshare away from the DS. When the DS first came out, one of the reasons people cited as a reason to buy the system was how much better GBA games looked on the DS screen. By releasing a GBA variant with a superior screen, they run the risk of splitting their market.Deku said:
-jinx- said:
GBA BC is a nice feature but hardly the selling point for the DS, it did help users get through the software drought last year and earlier this year though. I would agree with you that SOME people will probably have to decide between the DS or the Micro.
That said, the Micro is just a redesign of the GBA and by this fall, assuming NOA launches Micro in the fall, DS will have a pretty strong library of its own so that if you want those games, you will get a DS, if you don't want those games, you can upgrade to the Micro. Either way, Nintendo wins.
The GBA line is far from dead, and Nintendo is sending a strong signal to developers and retailers by upgrading the core hardware. It has a strong appeal to tech savvy consumers too. I actually want both a DS and Micro because Micro is probably the ultimate portable device, or will be the ultimate portable device. And the two products fullfill slightly different needs of consumers for portable gaming. Micro will be extremely portable and probably the ultimate gadget for casuals to own just like an ipod. In that sense, I think Nintendo doesn't see it as a Micro OR DS question, but these products target entirely different markets.
-jinx- said:
Which is exactly what they want. I don't know why so don't ask me for an explanation. They've clearly said that they want DS to be a 3rd pillar. The GBA BC was probably just there to help kick off the DS sales. Remember, we might think Nintendo is retarded for its views and decisions but they have continously stated that they want to expand the market. GBA is the existing market that they've always catered to and DS is the new market their trying to create.
JoshuaJSlone
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I doubt they so much mind whether a person goes with a GBA or DS, as long as it's not a PSP and they'll actually purchase games for it. They're the ones who continue to talk of GBA and DS as two separate pillars; let's see them try.-jinx- said:
EDIT: Not to mention, of course, the Nintendo whores like myself who'll end up with a GBA, SP, DS, and Micro by the time all is said and done.
Hellraizah
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Oh no you wouldn't dareMetalAlien said:
Two differences :
Neo Geo has a lot of good games.
Your PSP will be in the junkyard in 15 years.
Ignatz Mouse
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This thread annoys the shit out of me. For ages (well, weeks) I was saying it was too early to make predictions about PSP beating the DS (before release and after, when PSP overtook in sales for a while) and now that the trend has reversed, we get the same BS from the other set of fanboys.
Brushing aside the notion of a "winner" in the "war for a moment, I'm glad that the PSP has done as well as it has, given that a year ago everyone was predictiing it would be $300-$400 and stillborn. As I said above, I just want an alternative handeld with some of the games/genres I feel have been missing on handhelds, and I have it.
Now, can we at least wait for a holiday season (with units in stock) to pronounce it dead?
Brushing aside the notion of a "winner" in the "war for a moment, I'm glad that the PSP has done as well as it has, given that a year ago everyone was predictiing it would be $300-$400 and stillborn. As I said above, I just want an alternative handeld with some of the games/genres I feel have been missing on handhelds, and I have it.
Now, can we at least wait for a holiday season (with units in stock) to pronounce it dead?
That may be true for you. But that sounds like a spin to me. I was reading these boards before both launched and the DS was getting picked on non stop and almost everyone was saying it was doomed when the PSP launches. When it did launch in Japan and failed to outsell, the initial argument was limited supply and since then there's always been a ready explanation for why the PSP has YET to pull ahead. People were and still are expecting the PSP to do even better despite its price.
The bottom line is, Sony got its chain yanked by Nintendo and Nintendo got to do exactly what it wanted with the right numbers of unit shipped to all territorites. I think had there not been a DS the PSP wouldn't have launched so soon.
The disadvantage for Sony is that not only did Nintendo get to set the time table by launching everywhere first, their unit is cheaper to manufacture (room for price drops), cheaper to developer for and has a larger installed base, not to mention post E3, have a list of very nice system selling software on the way.
DS has outperformed objectively, and in GAF terms Megatonned all predictions.
MetalAlien
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Hellraizah said:Oh no you wouldn't dare
Two differences :
Neo Geo has a lot of good games.
Your PSP will be in the junkyard in 15 years.
Hey everyone loves the Neo-Geo, I was just saying.
ProgramFighter
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While the topic of the Micro is still brought up, I was wondering, does anyone knows if it plays GB/GBC games? If so, I will definitely buy it as it will compliment my DS nicely. If not, it'll depend on the price and, maybe, if Play-Yan (sp?) comes with it.