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[MikeM]

Looks like the cat is out of the bag now. This is a massive stat that shows majority of gamers choose frames over fidelity. Maybe this is a turn towards a 60+ fps standard.

 

[SweetTooth]

Big number tbh, I expected less

 

[Gaiff]

Looks like the cat is out of the bag now. This is a massive stat that shows majority of gamers choose frames over fidelity. Maybe this is a turn towards a 60+ fps standard.

Probably why they decided to charge $700. They figured performance is a lot more important than in the past.

 

[protonion]

I believe it is the default setting though most of the time if not always.

 

[MALpractice311]

I think it's also evidence that most gamers think the visuals of most games in their performance modes are good enough, which makes this push for AI upscaling and increased ray tracing, rather than increased performance, all the more confusing.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Duh, 30fps feels like crap to play the majority of the time.

 

[Pop]

Not surprised

30fps is trash

 

[DeepEnigma]

Always select performance.

 

[realcool]

I always choose performance mode. When I put on fidelity mode for GoW Ragnarok it turned into a PowerPoint slideshow.

 

[Valt7786]

I think it's also evidence that most gamers think the visuals of most games in their performance modes are good enough, which makes this push for AI upscaling and increased ray tracing, rather than increased performance, all the more confusing.

I would imagine the "Most" of those gamers are still playing on old 1080p TV's way back on their couch, so wont pick up on the differences so much.

I sit too close to my CX so perf modes almost always look like dogshit to me 8D but 30fps is too garbage to play at. I'm all in for the Pro at this point.

 

[Damigos]

I honestly thought 90% at least played on performace

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Weird. Anti-60 FPS zealots insisted it was a niche thing and normies prefer resolution. So much for that narrative.

 

[Kerotan]

Yeah and that's why this console is mainly focused on improving fidelity for performance modes.

 

[twilo99]

There are still people who think 30FPS is okay for video games... it blows my mind.

60FPS is still not great, but still much better.

120FPS is where you want to be.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

The number of times I've posted on this forum about people choosing choppy ass fidelity over performance as having brain damage lol, good to have confirmation

 

[Sooner]

It really shouldn't even be an option. It feels graphic mode only exists so the marketing team can claim that's how the game looks in advertisements.

 

[Vick]

You love to see it.

Couldn't give a shit about the price, I'll get the Pro if it means playing some of my favorite games only on PS at 4K and 60fps.

I'm way more bothered by the lack of disc drive. That is concerning for the future.

60FPS is still not great, but still much better.

120FPS is where you want to be.

Nonsense, on proper technology like plasma (or CRT), 60fps is perfect.

Not gaming fault LCD and OLED suck.

 

[twilo99]

60fps is perfect.

That's what people used to say about 30FPS ...

 

[VanCityGamer]

Not me. Fidelity Mode vast majority of the time.

 

[Physiognomonics]

PS5 is the era of 60fps gaming on a console. All Sony games run at 60fps or more and the vast majority of multiplat games run at 60fps. 30fps has become the very rare exception.

120fps is becoming what 60fps was on PS3.

 

[linko9]

Was pleasantly surprised to learn that. I remember years ago the claim was that no one cared about framerates.

 

[Vick]

That's what people used to say about 30FPS ...

You've clearly never played on a Panasonic plasma, or totally forgot CRT. You're settling down for merely 120fps when you would actually need 1000fps to achieve similar result as proper tech. lol

Old CRT TVs had minimal motion blur, LCDs have a lot of motion blur, LCDs will need 1,000fps@1,000hz in order to have minimal motion blur as CRT TVs

I bet for a lot of you this is going to be entirely new information because it was for me when I first read this article back in 2018 https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/ Read this article if you truly want to know what...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Represent. in shambles after hearing this.

 

[Xdrive05]

For most genres and games, how well they play matters WAY more than how good they look.

 

[Icymanipulator]

60 fps should be the standard in all games with few exceptions; turn based, or strategy can be fine at 30, but that's it. Maybe puzzle games too.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Prefer the visual aspect to be honest

 

[mansoor1980]

yet they showed hogwarts running at 30 fps

 

[kevboard]

that is extremely encouraging to hear.

 

[STARSBarry]

can we go back to that thread where a bunch of people where telling me fidelity is all that matters and most people select that and I'm just weird for preferring Performance mode.

 

[PeteBull]

Big number tbh, I expected less

It all makes sense, 2x more fps is worth more for players, since games arent screens/stills, in motion that double fps makes bigger difference than 2x pixel amount, actually.

 

[March Climber]

Represent. in shambles after hearing this.

Right now he's too busy being upset about Kendrick Lamar at the superbowl.

 

[SlimySnake]

So 75% of gamers are playing at 720p internal resolutions using severely paired down graphics and then they complain that graphics havent improved much.

Shouldve never offered them the choice.

 

[March Climber]

So 75% of gamers are playing at 720p internal resolutions using severely paired down graphics

 

[jm89]

rofif is the 25%

 

[proandrad]

We have won framerate warriors.

 

[SweetTooth]

Probably why they decided to charge $700. They figured performance is a lot more important than in the past.

60 fps can largly depends on how you design your game, you will be surprised at how many PS2 games run at 60fps.

We can make a case for PS5 pro being $700 by being the most powerful and advanced console ever. But why in the blue hell did MS charge $600 for Series X?

 

[The_Observer]

Bad news for graphics whores like me. Oh well…

 

[Wolves hunt in packs]

Every game this gen that had both performance and quality modes i went with the performance mode... even with games like Guardians of the Galaxy (1080p) or FFXVI (60fps only in combat). Hardcore performance mode fan.

 

[Wolves hunt in packs]

So 75% of gamers are playing at 720p internal resolutions using severely paired down graphics and then they complain that graphics havent improved much.

Shouldve never offered them the choice.

TBH in the first 3 years from launch performance modes wasn't at 720p... most of them was much higher.

 

[MayauMiao]

I hate that consoles this gen made you pick between performance and fidelity.

 

[TGO]

75% of users also have motion flow switched on their TVs
They also complain about the image quality.
When they select performance they are thinking something else
To most of them

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Always select performance.

There's the good boi!

 

[MikeM]

So 75% of gamers are playing at 720p internal resolutions using severely paired down graphics and then they complain that graphics havent improved much.

Shouldve never offered them the choice.

Choice is how you find new standards.

 

[rotorfire]

Fidelity mode is just there for screenshots.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

rofif is the 25%

Why you ducking me bro?

 

[Long Far Gone]

Looks like the cat is out of the bag now. This is a massive stat that shows majority of gamers choose frames over fidelity. Maybe this is a turn towards a 60+ fps standard.

Doesn't surpise me. The only reason we had to put up with 30fps back in previous gen's is because the console companies wanted bullshots for publicity. When you're an actual gamer experiencing the content, the difference between 30 & 60fps is immediately noticable, even to laymen. For me personally, my biggest priorities go in the following order: frames, aliasing, vsync. Everthing beyond that is negotiable.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Love this. The sooner these lazy ass developers get rid of 30 fps, the better.

 

[TehGoomba7s]

No sane person would pick a 30fps mode after playing a 60fps mode. It's just non sensical. You can't even use the bells and whistles argument because you lose then the second you turn your controller. Unless you are taking screenshots or doing a trailer like slow turn there is no reason.

 

[Revolutionary]

Okay but what about Balanced Mode?

 

[Deleted member 848825]

Yep, great stat to hear.