Sony to go from Sharp to Samsung? (psp)

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Is this true?

http://game.sina.com.hk/cgi-bin/nw.cgi?action=view;d=2004-12-13;id=964

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On a Management (financial) level, a decision like this would make sense.

But for us consumers... :(

I hope this isn't true, and if it is I hope the screen is still high quality.

EDIT: remember this a while back? http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=3196
 
i saw it too on opa. Dunno, sounds like it might make em cheaper. But it looks like crap :(
 
I hope they don't pull this one, the best thing about PSP is it's wonderful screen. I just can't avoid to stare at it when it's powered, it takes such a huge dump on the NDS.
 
They're going to source from both, right? Presumably they'd have to maintain consistent quality at least between the two of them if not with current PSP screens?

Who makes the current PSP screen? Sharp?
 
Well, if they do decide to go with Samsung, you can bet your brand new-fangled PSP won't have dead pixels.
 
Culex said:
Well, if they do decide to go with Samsung, you can bet your brand new-fangled PSP won't have dead pixels.
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Yea, I'd think this would have less to do with money and more to do with like 1/3rd of Sharp screen PSPs having dead or stuck pixels.
 
I'd rather want a clearer screen with some dead pixels you don't even notice than a DS-like(sorry)screen
 
Um... Just because Samsung offers that kind of guarantee to its customers doesn't mean Sony will as well.
 
I think they're trying to increase production buying screens from both Sharp and Samsung.
Of course I hope the quality will remain the same.
 
That guarantee doesn't come for free, it will cost lots of money. So unless SONY wants to lose even more money on the PSP i don't see it happening. However they might also upgrade the specs while changing the manufacturer and get rid of the ghosting.
 
Sharp has some serious QA issues with their other display devices. Their LCD's aren't too hot/are overpriced as well.

Unless the PSP screen was the exception, moving to Samsung could be better in the long run.
 
If those pictures are accurate that's a pretty substantial drop in quality between the screens. The second pictures look terrible in comparison, they're pretty washed out. Heh wish questions like this would be cleared up at CES but the odds of them touching an issue like that are slim and none.
 
I will remain skeptical. As long as we get equal resolution/16:9 and limited ghosting and little bleeding, I don't mind a change.
 
I dunno, at least in those pics the vieweing angles don't look at that different, and since i can't read any of the text I can't tell if the color and contrast and brightness differences are due to the feed source or even if these screens have been configured properly using reference images.
 
It's a common practice w/ cell phones. I had my SonyEricsson T616 replaced and the screen, while brighter, lacked the color vibrancy the first one had no matter what changes I made to the contrast/brightness.

I felt duped.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
It's a common practice w/ cell phones. I had my SonyEricsson T616 replaced and the screen, while brighter, lacked the color vibrancy the first one had no matter what changes I made to the contrast/brightness.

I felt duped.
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I have the same phone!
 
That picture may not even be representative of the difference since the Samsung pic is of a retail product (not even their best from an image quality and response time standpoint; the 213T).

Anyway, I was right about the benefits of getting a non-cost cut launch unit.
 
Gattsu25 said:
It takes a while to find a good spin sometimes..give the man some time ;)
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Man, Panajev offers awesome insight into the technical side of things. I rarely see him spinning the technical aspects of things. I think he loves technology too much to do a disservice to any given product ;P
 
There's a really cool trick you can do to make those samsung screens look really nice.

Don't play them at some stupid angle!

I mean, the current PSP screen is great, but I don't really need to see the screen at 170 degrees from vertical. Thats stupid.

And lets face it, even those shots (which look mocked up anyway) are still way better than DS' 5 degree viewing angle. That thing needs a head mount to secure it in the only possible position to see both screens at full brightness.
 
What are those samples from? I find it hard to believe that this site not only got this news, but sample pics at wierd resolutions. Pardon my skepticism, but I don't buy it. That said, for my Dell laptop with the WSXGA screen, there were two manufacturers, Hitachi and Samsung. Samsung screens were more responsive and brighter than the Hitachis. I got a Hitachi, and Dell refused to replace the screen, eventhough the Hitachi doesn't conform to their specs. At least they gave me a $400 refund, but still, it was a pretty shitty thing to do. So I hope it's a sign of Samsung's quality if this news does turn out to be true. Whatever the case may be, I hope the screen quality only increases, not decreases. PEACE.
 
Why does the girl in the middle look like a Yuna cosplay, to me.




I hope this isn't true, especially if those screens are accurate depictions. Rumor of Sony using lesser screens had been around since TGS, and even during/after Japan launch, which turned out to be false. So I'm remain skeptical.
 
Wouldn't bother me. Samsung PC 15", 17", and 19" LCD screens are SHARP (Ha ha ha!).

Seriously, I like the LCD products Samsung puts out over Sharp on a whole no matter how damn sexy that PSP screen looks. I have no doubt Samsung could keep the same level of quality or more than likely improve upon it.
 
Do the screens look different because they use two different types of technology? I was reviewing plasma vs LCD TVs the other day, and they said that plasma type screens use a LOT more power since every pixel is individually lit up, instead of just applying a single backlight source (ie, LCD screens).

I'm not sure what kind of technology each are, but if it is plasma vs LCD, then a samsung LCD would have 1) less or no dead pixels 2) cheaper to produce and 3) much better on battery life, then it does sound like a potential advantage for sony.
 
The End said:
as do I !
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Me four!

I was recently going to put it up on eBay so I could get a different phone but couldn't do it. It's so small and lightweight and it lasts a whole week on standby without having to recharge, that I just couldn't bring myself to selling it.
 
yes it is true.

it doesn't look like they'll be sourcing from both Samsung and Sharp, they've switced over to Samsung exclusively. Most Sony LCD products are using Samsung panel anyway, so samsung might be able to cut them a pretty good deal.
 
I don't see what's wrong with samsung to begin with. their products are generally solid, if a bit...dim. but I can't imagine sony could make such a radical change to the hardware without lowering the price or something.

ok, well I could imagine it, but...
 
but I can't imagine sony could make such a radical change to the hardware without lowering the price or something.
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Well since they're not making money on the PSP there's no savings to pass onto the consumer, just less loss for them.
 
I doubt this is happening. While Sony and Samsung do have a joint lcd manufacturing facility. They are only focusing on larger size lcd panels ie: 37in and up. Anyhow here's an eetimes article where Kutaragi states that Sharp is the only lcd supplier for the psp.

"While PSP was designed by combining Sony's key component technologies ranging from the CPU to UMD and encryption/decryption processing, Kutaragi acknowledged that memory, LCD panels and 802.11b PHY were supplied by others. Sharp Corp. is the single-source supplier of amorphous silicon LCDs used for PSP, he said."

http://www.eetimes.com/sys/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=51200766
 
monkeyrun said:
yes it is true.

it doesn't look like they'll be sourcing from both Samsung and Sharp, they've switced over to Samsung exclusively. Most Sony LCD products are using Samsung panel anyway, so samsung might be able to cut them a pretty good deal.
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How the eff do you know it's true?

Anyway, I don't see Sony switching from Sharp to Samsung barely a month from launch (and that article was written literally the day after). Maybe in a couple of years, but not right now.
 
...unless they're having supply problems with Sharp? Didn't read the original news blurb, since it wasn't translated accurately. What are the details at the link? Anyone translate?
 
As I mentioned before, I doubt those screen shots are PSP LCDs.

Could mean nothing but from Samsung press release:

SAMSUNG Begins Investment in LCD Line 7-2

TANJEONG, Korea – December 27, 2004 – Samsung Electronics, the leader in TFT-LCD technology, announced today that it would begin construction of a Line 7-2 at its fabrication facility in Tanjeong, Korea.

Samsung will make a 290 billion won (US$273 million) investment in order to start off the construction of the building for the new line. Line 7-2 will be located to the west of Samsung's Line 7-1. The fabrication facility will be about 300,000 square meters while the module assembly facility will be about 93,000 square meters. Line 7-1, the joint venture between Samsung Electronics and Sony Corporation, is the world's first 7 th Generation line and production is scheduled to begin in the first half of 2005.
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Also:
SAMSUNG Electronics develops 4-inch Widescreen LCD for Portable Media Players

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Product Specifications
Screen Size
4.0 “

Resolution
480 x RGB x 272

Colors
16.7 M Colors

Color Gamut
50%

I/F Digital
8-bit

Ratio
16:9
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The press release says it's only for portable media players but pretty similar to Sharp's PSP LCD spec and quality, I'd say.
 
If people are crying over samsung lcd for psp, they don't know anything about displays.


Give me one of the samsung models please.
 
mashoutposse said:
How the eff do you know it's true?

Anyway, I don't see Sony switching from Sharp to Samsung barely a month from launch (and that article was written literally the day after). Maybe in a couple of years, but not right now.
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The news story said that the announcement that Samsung's going to provide PSP's LCD display was announced on 7th Dec.

Also it's a news article, not a rumor.
 
Norse said:
If people are crying over samsung lcd for psp, they don't know anything about displays.


Give me one of the samsung models please.
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People may not know anything about displays but they know what their eyes tell them; and according to the pics above, the sharp displays are clearly superior.
 
People may not know anything about displays but they know what their eyes tell them; and according to the pics above, the sharp displays are clearly superior.
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Uhhh, yeah, uncontrolled pics taken of a PSP screen (I'd imagine) compared with uncontrolled pics of some random Samsung PC monitor really makes for a great comparison between how the Sharp and Samsung PSP screens would differ. There's not a damn rolleyes big enough.
 
michael000 said:
People may not know anything about displays but they know what their eyes tell them; and according to the pics above, the sharp displays are clearly superior.
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Is the Samsung display in the original post a real PSP screen ?

Look at this display:

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looks different from


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teiresias said:
Uhhh, yeah, uncontrolled pics taken of a PSP screen (I'd imagine) compared with uncontrolled pics of some random Samsung PC monitor really makes for a great comparison between how the Sharp and Samsung PSP screens would differ. There's not a damn rolleyes big enough.
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If you had any reading comprehension you'll see that i said "...and according to the pics above". I didn't make the original post, i didn't write the article, i didn't supply the pics. This whole issue and all those pictures could be pure bullshit for all we know, but at this point there's no proof either way so why not let people make up their owns minds with what info they have so far. Now i repeat according to the pics above the sharp display is clearly superior. There is no arguing at the top picture looks better than the bottom picture right? If the pictures change and somehow we find out the top one is a samsung and the bottom is a sharp then i'll say that the samsung display is clearly superior. You are right, there's not a big enough damn rolleyes.

If that handheld lcd that woman is holding is the quality that samsung is putting out now it's 100x better than what they've put out in the past and would be glad to have that in my psp.
 
If that handheld lcd that woman is holding is the quality that samsung is putting out now it's 100x better than what they've put out in the past and would be glad to have that in my psp.
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I agree :D.
 
To be clear if those specifications for that LCD are correct they match the PSP Sharp LCD screen specifications almost exactly. I think if Sony were going with Samsung this would be the safe bet.
 
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