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Sony unveils Xperia Z Ultra (6.4'', 1080p, Snapdragon 800)
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Phat Michael
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HTC One, S3 and the S4 have fantastic specs at reasonable screen sizes.
Not really though. I mean they're fine if you always carry a bag with you or are wearing something with big pockets like a coat. I can understand people wanting an Android device in the 3.5"-4.0" range with top-of-the-line specs.
zomgbbqftw
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The One Mini is coming and I think it packs S600 and a HD screen. That's a candidate. Sony supposedly have a 4.3" HD phone with S800(!) for the first quarter of next year. The smaller devices are coming because Android doesn't cater for iPhone switchers right now. People who want an awesome phone but in a small package, HTC and Sony will have the market covered next year I think. This year the focus was on large screens, next year it will be both large and small. The statistic driving this is that 20% of new iPhone buyers come from Android and size is the number one reason for abandoning Android in the US right now (though the other way around is true also).
Phat Michael
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I don't get this argument at all. I own a note 2 and work in a suit every day. suits by their very nature are not baggy or big, they are quite fitted. I keep a note 2 in my pockets whether these are jeans, shorts or trousers. I've never had a problem with carrying my note 2 in every single pair of pants i own.
maquiladora
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I'm sorry, but that's not a phone.
edgefusion
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The people in the ad look ridiculous trying to use it. This is clearly a two-handed device but they're all desperately trying to wrap one hand around the thing. They should've had the actors holding it like it's a tablet. Because it's a tablet.
We have an emerging market of tablet computers that happens to overlap with smartphones and it causes the industry to have this bizarre freakout where they try to smash the two things together in the most unwieldy ways possible. It seems like nobody is putting any thought into how people use these devices and instead they're just throwing whatever random, weird garbage into the mix to see what sticks.
We have an emerging market of tablet computers that happens to overlap with smartphones and it causes the industry to have this bizarre freakout where they try to smash the two things together in the most unwieldy ways possible. It seems like nobody is putting any thought into how people use these devices and instead they're just throwing whatever random, weird garbage into the mix to see what sticks.
4,7 and 5 inches are now reasonable? I'll tell you what, 4,7 with ridiculously thin bezel is still ok but 5 inches?
GIve me a freaking 4,3inch high end phone goddamnit.
I hope so. So ready for a new 4" phone, but the options are pretty average.
Canis lupus
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Is that the highest AnTuTu benchmark score? I want to use this as a tablet, why don't Sony make a 7-8'' tablet...
zomgbbqftw
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No money to be made in that sector right now. Everything is sold at cost or with a horrible spec.
Might not something without horrible specs make some coin?
zomgbbqftw
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It's too hard to compete with the Nexus 7 which is sold at cost. There is no market for a $349 7/8" Android tablet right now because the Nexus 7 is available for $199. Maybe when full HD screens get a bit cheaper and the Nexus7+ is released with a regular HD screen there will be a market for one, but right now, it's not possible to compete with that kind of pricing. It's why Samsung's tablets have shitty specs, they had to cut into the cost base to ensure some kind of margin.
My ideal small tablet would be an 8" full HD screen, S600, 2GB RAM and 16GB storage with microSD for £249/$329. Competes directly with the iPad Mini. Not sure if that is possible though, the price is probably too low or the spec too high.
But then you should sell it at low cost, it's a lose-lose scenario
Canis lupus
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Android tablets are way behind the times, the only good one to come out recently is the Tablet Z which I hope gets upgraded specs(S800) in a few months, but at 10'' its a bit bigger then I want it to be.
The market has proven that 5" is the upper boundary for the premium phone market.
Problem is that it encroaches on the phablet size that Galaxy Notes established a couple years back.
6" would've probably been the better size to differentiate from the 5" smartphone... but at least at that size (6.5") there's a clear differential for it over the 5" phone...
I guess the deal is that if people didn't take to it as a phablet, they could still take to it as a mini-tablet.
Ah, didn't realise the N7 was so cheap, cheers.
catashtrophe
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I've heard great things about the Xiaomi Mi2s phone, I plan on getting on soon.
4'3 screen with specs that match the Galaxy S4 and HTC One
Too bad that it isn't a phone that you can find in stores
zomgbbqftw
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Dat waterproofness!
trudderham
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lifa-cobex
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Nope. It's a tablet with phone capabilities. End of story.
Ok girls can keep it in their handbags. Where the fuck do I put it?
zomgbbqftw
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In your pocket?
it won't create a visible bulge either because it is so bloody thin.
There's no need for a stylus...just use your pencil.
Also apparently Sony are bundling a bluetooth handset with Z Ultra to make calls etc: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...all-companion-SBH52-Bluetooth-Handset_id44473
It's too late!
Perfect.
lifa-cobex
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The thing is bloody massive! If i'm skating and I fall on it, it will snap around my leg.
It's too late!
LOL
Of course it's possible, that's the 8.9" Kindle Kindle HD with a processor and RAM bump. The new Nexus 7 is supposed to be a 1080p screen with an S4 (APQ-8064). The SD card is the only thing you won't see as most of the at-cost devices make money in storage upgrades.
Sanky Panky
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They were very smart in the ad not to show someone with the phone next to their faces. It's ridiculous for a phone.
zomgbbqftw
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But it's only possible for Amazon and Google who make their money from services or advertising. For hardware companies like Samsung or Sony there is literally zero motivation to even bother with an 8" tablet sold at cost. They can't compete with Chinese OEMs on margins or price and they will always get undercut when they try.
It's better not to bother and create new market segments like this where people will buy it for $599/699 without too many issues.
I suppose but both Amazon and Google are supposed to be making heavy phone entries too. What's scary is Google gets first Android software dibs on top of it. This is probably why Android OEMs are getting corralled into the Google-edition lineup. Google's trying to seem less heavy handed and more open but it's understood they can crush any of them at any moment.
zomgbbqftw
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Well this is why both Samsung and Sony have their own options on the back burner in case Google cut the legs off Android hardware margins with Motorola hardware. I could easily see Samsung moving to "Galaxy OS" as an offshoot of Android that requires zero effort ports from Google Play for apps if Google fucked them over.
FlyingTeacup
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this looks pretty odd to me
zomgbbqftw
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Almost as bad as HTC's attempt:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/25/3...phone-companion-for-your-oversized-smartphone
show me your skeleton
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haha, love all the stuff they have to do to make it usable, shift the keyboard over to one side, bluetooth dongle etc.
anyway, lovely piece of hardware but far too large for me.
anyway, lovely piece of hardware but far too large for me.
It's too late!
Oh god, lol!
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