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[DigitalDevilSummoner]

Their new CEO pretty much only cares about the bottom line and not actual strategy between the first party companies.

I don't know about that one yet but talking about bottom lines, it was Wada who rushed FF XIII at the last possible minute to the 360 fearing low PS3 sales.

I believe Metal Gear Solid 4 sales proved him wrong.

 

[Samyy]

Don't fall for it you guys.

It's a trap.gif



To me it felt like, them trying to make to Sony for Skyrim fiasco, but who knows.

I doubt they care about that fiasco, people bought it regardless.

 

[Chamber]

I think the player base of those games consists largely of Playstation gamers, due to platform history/association. Same with Metal Gear Solid.

Yeah, I said this during E3 when Sony fans were lamenting the lack of exclusivity on those games. The type of person who would buy a console for Kingdom Hearts or Metal Gear Solid is likely a Playstation gamer anyway. Waste of time to moneyhat those games.

 

[imtehman]

I don't know about that one yet but talking about bottom lines, it was Wada who rushed FF XIII at the last possible minute to the 360 fearing low PS3 sales.

I believe Metal Gear Solid 4 sales proved him wrong.

So every 3rd party game that went multiplatform this gen did so because they feared Ps3 sales then?

 

[Samyy]

So every 3rd party game that went multiplatform this gen did so because they feared Ps3 sales then?

If PS3 was selling like PS2 I think they would have no problem remaining exclusive :/

 

[imtehman]

personally i think that the reason why MGS4 stayed exclusive was because Sony paid for it. I'm thinking that Sony wanted FFXIII to stay exclusive too but SE asked for too much money.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

personally i think that the reason why MGS4 stayed exclusive was because Sony paid for it. I'm thinking that Sony wanted FFXIII to stay exclusive too but SE asked for too much money.

IF that is true it would make you wonder why Sony didn't pay for MGS5 exclusively.

 

[beast786]

So every 3rd party game that went multiplatform this gen did so because they feared Ps3 sales then?

early on ... Yes had to be a big part. like what happened with WiiU exclusive 3rd party (Rayman)

 

[SniperHunter]

Sony's studios probably focused on the Feb reveals and so working hard to polish up another impressive build at E3, especially such a short time before final dev kits went out, would be a waste of resources. Tretton said they didn't hammer in the graphical superiority of the PS4 at E3 since they didn't have to, I think the near final builds running on (probably) final hardware at GC will impress a lot more.

I agree. I think the tgs builds will be more impressive

 

[Iacobellis]

personally i think that the reason why MGS4 stayed exclusive was because Sony paid for it. I'm thinking that Sony wanted FFXIII to stay exclusive too but SE asked for too much money.

Here we go again...

 

[Yawnier]

personally i think that the reason why MGS4 stayed exclusive was because Sony paid for it. I'm thinking that Sony wanted FFXIII to stay exclusive too but SE asked for too much money.

Its odd that if Sony did indeed pay (moneyhat) for MGS4 exclusivity, no insiders or anybody else said anything about it over the years. Or maybe someone did say something about it but I missed it....

 

[jayu26]

Its odd that if Sony did indeed pay (moneyhat) for MGS4 exclusivity, no insiders or anybody else said anything about it over the years. Or maybe someone did say something about it but I missed it....

See I always thought that it did not go multiplatform because of that forth wall breaking disk changing blu ray joke

They would have to obviously remove that from all the other versions.

 

[Chamber]

The MGS4 engine was such a sack of crap, I'm not sure they could have ported it if they wanted to.

 

[DigitalDevilSummoner]

So every 3rd party game that went multiplatform this gen did so because they feared Ps3 sales then?

You are ignoring the main point of my argument. FF and KH are not every other game, they are rare, high profile titles.

IF that is true it would make you wonder why Sony didn't pay for MGS5 exclusively.

Exactly, especially when MGS 4 was such a huge success.

The MGS4 engine was such a sack of crap, I'm not sure they could have ported it if they wanted to.

The MGS 4 engine delivered.

 

[SniperHunter]

personally i think that the reason why MGS4 stayed exclusive was because Sony paid for it. I'm thinking that Sony wanted FFXIII to stay exclusive too but SE asked for too much money.

It stayed exclusive cause the game was an embarrassment. Nonsensical story, cut scenes every two minutes, shitacular graphics that required installs, not to mention the 20 fps frame rate. The game was poop

Sony probably cut all contacts with Kojima San after the execs (Yoshida, Cerny and Andy) played MGS4.... I mean no wonder why Kojima unveiled MGSV at the MS conference

 

[Kagari]

I think Kojima recently said it was because of disc space.

 

[DigitalDevilSummoner]

It stayed exclusive cause the game was an embarrassment. Nonsensical story, cut scenes every two minutes, shitacular graphics that required installs, not to mention the 20 fps frame rate. The game was poop

Sony probably cut all contacts with Kojima San after the execs (Yoshida, Cerny and Andy) played MGS4.... I mean no wonder why Kojima unveiled MGSV at the MS conference

Nice try but you are not stealing zero cognitive reasoning abilities from me.

I think Kojima recently said it was because of disc space.

That was Otakon.

 

[Samyy]

Why wouldn't MGS5 be multiplatform, its a very different beast then FF or KH. I think its "Westernish" enough and its obvious they are pushing it to the Xbox crowd by showing it off at E3.

 

[ShinMaruku]

For the conference Sony should play my console from Eiffel 65.

 

[Coxy]

Because they never delivered on this.

Edit: It is still listed as coming to PS3 on R*'s site...whatever that means.

The Last Remnant is still listed as coming to ps3 on its site

all it means is they forget about these sites and never update them if they arent in hype cycle

 

[Piggus]

That was Otakon.

lol, I laughed so hard when I got to that part. Fantastic trolling.

 

[I-hate-u]

For the conference Sony should play my console from Eiffel 65.

They will probably go with a track from a Two Steps from Hell album. They used their music in the PS meeting and E3 conference.

 

[lupin23rd]

Because they never delivered on this.

Edit: It is still listed as coming to PS3 on R*'s site...whatever that means.

Goddamn, is that the spiderman font on that Agent page? LOL

They've probably long since fired the guy who put up that page and don't know where it is anymore.

 

[DJwest]

The Last Remnant is still listed as coming to ps3 on its site

all it means is they forget about these sites and never update them if they arent in hype cycle

And yet Rockstar just recently renewed the trademark for Agent.

 

[Chamber]

Why wouldn't MGS5 be multiplatform, its a very different beast then FF or KH. I think its "Westernish" enough and its obvious they are pushing it to the Xbox crowd by showing it off at E3.

They tried that with Rising and it still sold better on PS3. Co-marketing deals seem like a waste of time for established IPs or at least it feels that way.

 

[jayu26]

The Last Remnant is still listed as coming to ps3 on its site

all it means is they forget about these sites and never update them if they arent in hype cycle

I was actually talking about this site, unlike that other site, Rockstar actually updates this site.

 

[Samyy]

They tried that with Rising and it still sold better on PS3. Co-marketing deals seem like a waste of time for established IPs or at least it feels that way.

Overall a game will sell more multiplatform, but yea theres the cost of the second version to consider. Ultimately I'd assume they're running projections based on different scenarios and they've decided its worth the risk to try. It doesn't matter if it sells less on Xbox as long as it increases the overall profit from the title.

In addition it may be worth it to build that brand association on a second console! Perhaps they're betting on Xbox sales to catch up with the Playstation equivalent eventually, its not a bad investment.

 

[TetraGenesis]

I...I haven't checked this in a while...

Why are we all arguing about Gen 7 console exclusivity?

Not trying to be shitty, I'll read through the old stuff too, I'm just a little lost right now.

 

[Samyy]

I...I haven't checked this in a while...

Why are we all arguing about Gen 7 console exclusivity?

Not trying to be shitty, I'll read through the old stuff too, I'm just a little lost right now.

I think the conversation started with FF15 and KH3 being multiplatform and it sorta led to this big discussion, its not like we have much else to talk about atm

 

[TetraGenesis]

I think the conversation started with FF15 and KH3 being multiplatform and it sorta led to this big discussion, its not like we have much else to talk about atm

Hahahaha, true, true. The insider wells have all dried.

I'm certainly not judging the conversation, just wondering how we got there. Hahaha

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I...I haven't checked this in a while...

Why are we all arguing about Gen 7 console exclusivity?

Not trying to be shitty, I'll read through the old stuff too, I'm just a little lost right now.

You done did it again!

 

[TetraGenesis]

You done did it again!

I really don't understand your standards for avatar quoting.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I really don't understand your standards for avatar quoting.

I'm just doing it for my own amusement now lol

 

[Indrid Cold]

What is this partnership Robo and others are mentioning between sony and betashed? What exactly does it entail?

 

[AznSniper]

P.S. The good news is Sony bought Housemarque. I'm not the first to suggest this, but I totally stand behind it.

Wait. How do you know Sony bought Housemarque? Are they announcing it at GamesCom?

 

[beast786]

I'm just doing it for my own amusement now lol

 

[Dead Prince]

Wait. How do you know Sony bought Housemarque? Are they announcing it at GamesCom?

Was the quote on the page where we just placed random hints in our post

 

[Iacobellis]

For the conference Sony should play my console from Eiffel 65.

But there is no Ridge Racer...

 

[Piggus]

What is this partnership Robo and others are mentioning between sony and betashed? What exactly does it entail?

Haha, Betashed

Well at E3 they did announce a partnership. I don't know if it just entails the Elder Scrolls Online Beta or if it's something beyond that a la the DLC exclusivity Microsoft had with them. Any more hints as to what it could be from those in the know would be nice.

 

[Chamber]

Wait. How do you know Sony bought Housemarque? Are they announcing it at GamesCom?

I think he's making a prediction.

Housemarque would be a great addition to WWS though to say the least.

 

[TetraGenesis]

I'm just doing it for my own amusement now lol

 

[jayu26]

What is this partnership Robo and others are mentioning between sony and betashed? What exactly does it entail?

Early excess to Elder Scrolls Online beta on PS4...exciting isn't it?

 

[Samyy]

What is this partnership Robo and others are mentioning between sony and betashed? What exactly does it entail?

Speculation based on the Elder Scrolls mmo beta
And Sony buying Housemarque, who would really care?.... Why would they announce it their conference :/

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Spoiler

I clearly don't know how to quote avatars properly from mobile, hahaha.

OH YOU

Spoiler

This time it makes sense!

 

[TetraGenesis]

Wait. How do you know Sony bought Housemarque? Are they announcing it at GamesCom?

Not an insider, haha, sorry. Just a theory. I believe it was Mort that said something like, "Housemarque will bring Stardust and there is also good news." I've thought for a while that the "good news" will be that Housemarque joined WWS.

 

[Ciastek3214]

Am I doing this right?

 

[TetraGenesis]

OH YOU

Spoiler

This time it makes sense!

Hahahaha, that one felt goooood.

 

[Samyy]

Im thinking the good news is that its coming soon, like launch or near launch

Spoiler

in my dreams

 

[TetraGenesis]

Speculation based on the Elder Scrolls mmo beta
And Sony buying Housemarque, who would really care?.... Why would they announce it their conference :/

No idea. As an addendum to push the idea that Sony has a powerful and growing stable of first party developers? Don't know :/ I wouldn't normally expect something like that but multiple comments have been made about Housemarque having some other "good news" that is not a game announcement.

 

[TetraGenesis]

Im thinking the good news is that its coming soon, like launch or near launch

Spoiler

in my dreams

That actually makes a lot of sense. Hahaha. Never thought of that