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Soul Reaver may have been the most overly ambitious game ever. (research thread)
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How brilliant is the music here? Industrial, imposing, startling...
BassForever
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Love this threads, keep up the great work 
Oh god the block pushing and turning and stacking while fighting endlessly respawning enemies and carrying the enemies into sunlight or fire or onto stakes (otherwise the respawning enemies couldn't be killed). I loved the game but learned to hate those block puzzles.
The follow ups have been streamlined a lot where you ended up fighting up bigger and bigger monsters as the game went on instead of a Zelda like exploration. They were very linear experiences but without the annoyances of the first game. They were not nearly as exciting either though. Highlights were the few remaining dungeons where the block pushing was replaced with beam redirecting. In the end I liked the story more than the "what could've been" and it was worth to play 2 and Defiance just for the conclusion.
Anticitizen One
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I would like to play this game. Which is the best platform to play it on? Dreamcast?
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
Yeah, DC & PC are the best option.
Great game, does not get enough recognition.
It did non-linear open 3D Metroid level designs before Metroid Prime ever did.
Naked Lunch
Member
Soul Reaver has an incredible story, atmosphere, and especially character design (of the enemies at least - Raziel looks like a tool) BUT the gameplay of every Soul Reaver is pure fucking garbage. It gives me a headache just thinking of playing those games.
Lasthope106
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I got chills down my spine whenever I played this game. It was so beautiful running on the Dreamcast, and the voice acting was the best at that point in time. And the music... that fucking music was the Halo theme before there was Halo.
A next gen game in this series is needed RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
A next gen game in this series is needed RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
Correctomundo
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I bought this game as a PS1 classic.
I'm too spoiled by the 2 generations of advancement in control.
Presentation was phenomenal though.
Umm... it worked with the analog stick.
Damn thread made me realize I've never beaten this game. I played it back on the PSX, though, and remember really liking it. I just picked it up from GOG for $7. I figure it's easier than scrounging for a used copy somewhere.
There's a mod someone put out that allows it to run in proper widescreen (minus the stretched HUD) and at 60fps.
There's a mod someone put out that allows it to run in proper widescreen (minus the stretched HUD) and at 60fps.
flippymittens
Banned
Amazing post thank you very much.
I wonder if they ever remake the game if they would consider including the cut content.
I wonder if they ever remake the game if they would consider including the cut content.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
Geez. Amazing wealth of info in the OP. I've mostly enjoyed Uncharted as a diversion, but it comes across as really shallow (albeit gorgeous) compared to the rich LoK world. I'd love to see a new Soul Reaver game now that game engines can finally do that amazing conceptual artwork justice
ss_lemonade
Member
Amazing thread for an amazing game. Dat intro, dat music, dat 60fps goodness on the Dreamcast....
Never played Soul Reaver 2 (was waiting for the DC version ), did it not answer questions from the first game?
Never played Soul Reaver 2 (was waiting for the DC version
), did it not answer questions from the first game?SniperHunter
Banned
Where's the HD re-release for this series? Who owns it anyway? Crystal Dynamics?
Heeeelll no. If anything the true sequel to SR is Defiance (LoK 5). You only need one little point from SR2 ending to understand it and it answers every question in SR.Amazing thread for an amazing game. Dat intro, dat music, dat 60fps goodness on the Dreamcast....
Never played Soul Reaver 2 (was waiting for the DC version
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Damn thread made me realize I've never beaten this game. I played it back on the PSX, though, and remember really liking it. I just picked it up from GOG for $7. I figure it's easier than scrounging for a used copy somewhere.
There's a mod someone put out that allows it to run in proper widescreen (minus the stretched HUD) and at 60fps.
This is watch BC should look like! not grainy blurred upres shit.
Love SR
King of the Potato People
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Shenmue had to be the most over-ambitious game ever made, Sega never recovered from it.
Soul Reaver is a great game though with an unparallelled atmosphere.
Soul Reaver is a great game though with an unparallelled atmosphere.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
Yup. This is an awesome thread. And I really hope those rumors about a new LoK game are true.
Terra_Ex
Member
Great game but hell it was blatantly obvious even back in the day that it suffered heavy content cuts. I remember that I completely missed the human citadel the first time through the game (only way to get to it was via some nigh-impossible jump-glide from the big waterfall place). Upon finally stumbling upon it in my second playthrough I was really excited to see what I'd missed, which turned out to be pretty much nothing, just a shell of a city with humans milling about. There was clearly more planned for it (remember reading all the lofty plans in magazines at the time) as if you made it to the citadel without ever killing? a human the residents and guards wouldn't attack Raz. Great thread though, nice reminiscing and a shame so much stuff never made it into the game (and what a great intro sequence).
ThisWreckage
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The most ambitious game had to have been Shenmue. Spanned multiple hardware, enormous budget, tons of features/locations cut, etc. It remains an immensely detailed game and it's kind of ridiculous to think that a lot of things were cut out.
I just tried, no it doesn't.
Ciastek3214
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lifa-cobex
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Absolutely fantastic game. I remember thinking "how the hell am i gonna remember my way around?". Felt totally overwhelmed.
3 or 4 play through's later, Fucking ace!
Just kept thinking there must be even more to discover each time.
Bit of a love and hate relationship with SR2. Something about it just didn't sit well with me.
Defiance was cool though.
3 or 4 play through's later, Fucking ace!
Just kept thinking there must be even more to discover each time.
Bit of a love and hate relationship with SR2. Something about it just didn't sit well with me.
Defiance was cool though.
One of the best intros ever. Made me go hnnngggggggg when i was young folk
Lack of those memorable boss battles from the original hurt a lot. Also, you're essentially doing the same types of puzzles over and over again to open up the map with the various reavers.
Defiance was a good game, but I hated the fixed camera angles. Seemed very unnecessary.
IdreamofHIME
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yeah me too, I've been interested for a while. I dont really know where to start though. What's the chronology? Is it best to follow that or is there a better path through them
lifa-cobex
Member
yea. starting to remember bits a pieces now you mention it. Just getting one power to the next and cut scenes of story.
I know the ending was good though. Even if it was too way easy lol.
If you wanna go all out story wise. Get Blood omen 1 and 2 first. Then start on the Soul Reaver series
What the hell.. I never realized all those controls on the XMB home while playing PS1 classics. Thanks.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
Everything about this game is/was somehow perfect.
I'd love to see a Legacy of Kain collection with updated graphics on PC, but it will never happen, and if it did, it would be disappointing somehow.
I particularly love the original (while still a normal vampire) Raziel design, and the Kain design.
I'd love to see a Legacy of Kain collection with updated graphics on PC, but it will never happen, and if it did, it would be disappointing somehow.
I particularly love the original (while still a normal vampire) Raziel design, and the Kain design.
I was able to find a complete uncompressed OGG rip of the game a while back. Its like 700 megs or something and has a ton of tracks. Actually i think a website has it hosted for free. Like a website dedicated to hosting Soul Reaver stuff.