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There has been plenty of evidence of the multiverse theory in effect. I'm almost positive that's what they are trying to achieve.

Actually the entire episode referenced the multiverse thing heavily(mostly the Dr. Gel aspect of the episode). The show has a lot more continuity than most people think.

If there's been plenty of evidence can you please go ahead and list it? I'm not seeing any concrete facts that point towards a multiverse theory at this time; just a bunch of speculation from fans across the internet.

Even if there is one, who cares? I'm not trying to be rude when I say that either; the point I was trying to make in my last post was that Dandy isn't a show where everything has to be neatly wrapped up in a bow for the viewer. It's a wacky space comedy with a ton of different writers, each of whom has the creative freedom to mold "their" Dandy into whatever form best fits the story they're trying to tell. Not everything needs to be explained nor is it meant to be, the show just goes with the flow, baby.

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TheRancor

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The Japanese credit song references Hugh Everett, who proposed the parallel universe theory, several times. The multiverse thing is probably true.
Yeap the man responsible for the theory of Quantum Physics (multiple, parallel worlds), selected words:

"Hey, Everett,
According to you, there are lots of different worlds
I’m not sure I understand"

"The alternate worlds will always be parallel
It’s enough to blow my mind"

"One dimension, two dimensions, three dimensions,"

"How far will this world expand?"

Of course, we have no idea if they will actually give a thorough explanation like some crave.
 

DarkKyo

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If there's been plenty of evidence can you please go ahead and list it?

1) Both the main characters and the villains have died and returned with little or no knowledge of the circumstances of their previous deaths, or that they had died at all
2) When the universe gets into a dead end for our heroes(or at least Dandy) it ends up resetting(entire universe of zombies, Dandy stuck in the future)
3) An entire empire is after him for reasons unknown and never spoken of
4) He owns a powerful ship with interesting warp/dimension tearing capabilities
5) In the most recent episode Dr. Gel is figuring out Dandy's "energy"; this is probably related to whatever universe swapping power Dandy doesn't realize he has
6) Dr. Gel actually gives a lot of clues as to what the power means right before he dies again "The Secrets of the Cosmos, the ever changing truth, it is so beautiful, and yet... I've stumbled upon an amazing truth that one cannot simply forget... a knowledge of such power, that it spells Death for anyone who might attain it."
7) If you look at Dr. Gel's complex scribblings in the most recent episode you can see a lot of nearly identical diagrams - I think these might be expressing many similar universes
8) The entire ending sequence and its song...
 
The ending sequence that US viewers never even see (Toonami cuts them) is the strongest piece of evidence pointing towards Space Dandy revolving around parallel universes. Everything else listed ranges from inconsequential to plausible yet vague.

I wouldn't be surprised if what GMN mentioned happens to be true:

i honestly would not be surprised if the lyrics in that ending song are the biggest reference we ever get

Whether they touch on the existence of parallel universes or not in the future, Dandy is certainly going to be considered one of the wackiest high profile anime to come around in (at least to the US) in quite some time.
 

DarkKyo

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The ending sequence that US viewers never even see (Toonami cuts them) is the strongest piece of evidence pointing towards Space Dandy revolving around parallel universes. Everything else listed ranges from inconsequential to plausible yet vague.

Whether they touch on the existence of parallel universes or not in the future, Dandy is certainly going to be considered one of the wackiest high profile anime to come around in (at least to the US) in quite some time.

Alright, well if you want to ignore the "evidence" you just asked for then that's fine. You still can't attempt to explain half of it without saying "Space Dandy is wacky and fun! It can't have any continuity or sci-fi substance to it!" It doesn't matter that Adult Swim chooses to omit the ending, it's still ripe with imagery and lyics that clearly point out the underlying sci-fi concepts that the show is built upon. How do you explain the Gogol Empire's pursuit of Dandy throughout the series or the entire last episode and Dr. Gel's dialogue? Are they pointless and nonsensical in your opinion? Why even have that as part of the recent episode, especially since it made up about 40% of the episode's content? They certainly aren't there for the wacky hijinx you think the series is only capable of. As the series goes on you're probably going to struggle more and more to explain away the evidence that keeps stacking up for this theory because they are making it slightly more apparent as time goes on(they don't want to give it all away yet obviously). I think you should keep an open mind about the series because it probably has a lot more story direction and heavy science fiction concepts than you think.
 

duckroll

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DarkKyo, just answer this question, will you feel a stinging sense of disappointment when the entire series ends and it never establishes any sort of continuity nor does it confirm that any of those random stuff in various episodes are connected? Because I'm fairly sure that's exactly what is going to happen.
 

DarkKyo

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DarkKyo, just answer this question, will you feel a stinging sense of disappointment when the entire series ends and it never establishes any sort of continuity nor does it confirm that any of those random stuff in various episodes are connected? Because I'm fairly sure that's exactly what is going to happen.

I'll feel like they built up a lot of expectations for nothing, but I'm pretty confident that I'm correct. Otherwise they've spent a good 5-10% of the series content so far intentionally misleading viewers and I refuse to believe the series would waste time on hints that lead no where. You still can't explain half the stuff I mentioned.

More evidence:
-When our heroes live on through the end of the episode the episode always says "To be continued..."
-When our heroes die or reach a narrative dead-end in a universe before the end of the episode, the episode always ends with "THE END"

This is a clear indication of when they have reached a temporal dead end or not. Seriously, go rewatch the episodes.
 

duckroll

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I think a lot of this expectations are in your mind, and I'm sure you feel totally confident that they're correct, but where you see tons of connections and carefully plotted "clues", others probably just see a show having fun and different writers and directors doing different stuff with their own ideas. There's nothing to explain if we don't think that they have any deeper meaning to them.

Personally I don't really care whether there's some clever underlying continuity or not, either way is fine with me, but I recommend keeping expectations in check so you don't end up being disappointed by something that's nothing more than your own over-analysis into a show.
 

DarkKyo

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I think a lot of this expectations are in your mind, and I'm sure you feel totally confident that they're correct, but where you see tons of connections and carefully plotted "clues", others probably just see a show having fun and different writers and directors doing different stuff with their own ideas. There's nothing to explain if we don't think that they have any deeper meaning to them.

I guess we'll have to see who is right, then. If you want to ignore the evidence that appears in every episode so far then that's totally fine and I understand the urge to remain neutral and doubtful before the show spells it out for you. Also, the show can be as light-hearted and creative as you describe it yet also have a great science fiction twist to it, you know. I do think it is worth it to have more faith in Watanabe and crew as show leads, though.

By the way nobody has countered any of the plot points and glaring features I've described without trying to say the show is 100% randomness, which it clearly isn't.
 

duckroll

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I'm not going to waste more time debating something which I don't care for, but I'll note one thing. I don't think that enjoying a show for being a random collection of creative stories means not having faith in a director. I'm not sure if you see this viewpoint at all, but there are plenty of people out there who enjoy the series just fine as it is, a wacky episodic show where anything can happen in an episode because there's no continuity, allowing the individual episode teams to have full creative freedom to do whatever they want. I know there are some people who like to find clues in every scene of a show and try to piece things together to see if there's some grand plan, but not every show has to be made that way, and a show that isn't made like that is not better or worse.

And once again, people are not "countering" your claims because I think mostly people just don't care. You seem hung up on this theory and want to convince everyone about it, but most people just... don't care.
 

DarkKyo

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I'm not going to waste more time debating something which I don't care for, but I'll note one thing. I don't think that enjoying a show for being a random collection of creative stories means not having faith in a director. I'm not sure if you see this viewpoint at all, but there are plenty of people out there who enjoy the series just fine as it is, a wacky episodic show where anything can happen in an episode because there's no continuity, allowing the individual episode teams to have full creative freedom to do whatever they want. I know there are some people who like to find clues in every scene of a show and try to piece things together to see if there's some grand plan, but not every show has to be made that way, and a show that isn't made like that is not better or worse.

And once again, people are not "countering" your claims because I think mostly people just don't care. You seem hung up on this theory and want to convince everyone about it, but most people just... don't care.

If you don't care then why are you engaging it further? Either counter the plentiful evidence to defend your viewpoint or walk away to show that you have nothing to counter it with. If you don't care about talking about the theory then I don't know why you came in here to give your two cents and not back that up with anything remotely interesting. I think it's a strong enough theory to talk about in the OT so I'm not sure why people have an issue with it to this extent. The theory was first thought of maybe 2-3 episodes in when it was clear that the show was not your usual anime story continuity-wise. Even back then there were indications of what might be going on behind the curtains. It would probably be best for you to keep an open mind about the show and what it is capable of. Maybe if you spent less time trying to pin the old "delirious, crazy, fanboy" thing on me and more on why this popular fan theory isn't true then I could take your responses more seriously.

I seriously can't understand the argument as to why a show involving concepts like dimension tearing, interstellar travel, and time travel is seen as too silly to have some grand design and multiple universes to it merely because the characters and content are often light-hearted. If you're not interested in discussing it then let's just hold out and return to this when we have a better idea of what is going on long-term instead of resorting to assuming you know everything.
 

duckroll

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Shrug, I'm just suggesting that you should consider the possibility that you're reading too much into it and not invest -too- much into being "right" because like you admitted yourself, if it turns out that there really is nothing there, you will feel like they built up expectations for nothing, when they might not have been building any expectations at all. That's all. I'm not calling you a "delirious, crazy, fanboy" or anything. It can be fun to make up theories and try to support them, but if you get too invested in something that honestly might not be there, you could end up hurting your own enjoyment in the end. If that doesn't matter to you then by all means go all in on it. :)
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Shrug, I'm just suggesting that you should consider the possibility that you're reading too much into it and not invest -too- much into being "right" because like you admitted yourself, if it turns out that there really is nothing there, you will feel like they built up expectations for nothing, when they might not have been building any expectations at all. That's all. I'm not calling you a "delirious, crazy, fanboy" or anything. It can be fun to make up theories and try to support them, but if you get too invested in something that honestly might not be there, you could end up hurting your own enjoyment in the end. If that doesn't matter to you then by all means go all in on it. :)

Oh woops I thought this was the Space Dandy thread. Not the True Dick thread.
 
DarkKyo, I stopped the discussion with you because:

1. I really don't care if there's multiple universes or not. All I've said is that I haven't seen enough evidence to convince myself that the multiverse theory is true at this point. I have very little interest engaging in a lengthy discussion over something that ultimately means nothing to me or impacts my enjoyment of the series.

2. You seem to be getting a tad aggressive with anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view. Not sure if anything I said rubbed you the wrong way but I apologize if it did, that wasn't my intention.

Nobody is 'ignoring' the evidence you presented; I just don't see it as definitive like you do. It seems like you have this set expectation that there has to be continuity and are trying to rationalize a bunch of things that may mean nothing or never be explained. I guess we'll have to wait until season 2 for an answer.
 

Yonafunu

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DarkKyo, I think you're reading too much into it, or rather, you're expecting too much. I think the evidence you propose is evidence because you want it to be. It won't convince anyone who doesn't already agree with the "theory". The thing is, the characters 'living through' their own deaths from earlier episodes is just a logical consequence of the wacky episodic nature of the series. Just look at something like Futurama.
Now, I do think there are things hinting at some sort of continuity, like the ED, but I don't think it's going anywhere. And like duckroll said, I don't care.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Darkkyo to be redeemed. Duckroll wrong yet once again.
 
Darkkyo to be redeemed. Duckroll wrong yet once again.

Nah Magi could still end its serialization any week now

Oh wait wrong thread

Well lets just see we were told the dub "ruined" the boobies girl in episode 1 because she had another side to her personality which we've yet to see and we've established the series has 0 continuity
 
Nah Magi could still end its serialization any week now

Oh wait wrong thread

Well lets just see we were told the dub "ruined" the boobies girl in episode 1 because she had another side to her personality which we've yet to see and we've established the series has 0 continuity

she was the only one able to understand the writing last episode, but that's a really really small thing.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Seems to me like everyone in this "debate" is partially right. The writers don't care what happens from episode to episode AND they've excused it away by referencing the "many worlds" theory in the ending song.

I don't think we'll ever have it elaborated on. Don't go writing your Dandy "many worlds" timelines just yet. It's just a clever acknowledgement of the lack of continuity.

Maybe Dandy and crew "get it right" in one dimension on the last episode, Groundhog Day style.

Yay, more Space Dandy. More Meow, one of the best anime characters. A selfie taking, ramen loving, alien cat.
I love Meow.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Dandy is a flat circle. All that has happened will happen again.
 
Seems to me like everyone in this "debate" is partially right. The writers don't care what happens from episode to episode AND they've excused it away by referencing the "many worlds" theory in the ending song.

This is more or less my interpretation of the entire thing, it's just a justification to do whatever the hell they want rather than some attempt at constructing some overarching series of events. Don't think the show really needs to be any more than it already is.

so is the show over?

also, can I get a tag please. 'junior junior member'

thank you

Show is on hiatus until Summer/Fall.
Edit : Apparently not.

You've gotta earn 'junior junior member'.
 

duckroll

Member
I wonder if Dai Sato's response suggests he's writing ep14. Bahi mentioned on Twitter (before he deleted it again) that he just finished working on that episode too. We also know that Yuasa's episode is ep16, and he apparently finished that last year.
 

Lespedeza

Banned
I was thinking of dropping this show because I really wasn't feeling it, but this was the 1st episode (12) that I liked, the humor hit all the right notes for me.
 
Space Dandy - Episode 12

That episode was definitely amazing, might even be one of my top 3. I loved the Looney Tunes humor during some scenes. That smoke and music that played when they wrestled, and the
chameleon sticking its tongue out and running away
. Also, the whole QT quiz and fishing part was great as well.
 

duckroll

Member
I wonder if Toonami's contract specifically states they have to air it first before anywhere else, because....

http://space-dandy.com/blog/?p=456

There's been a scheduling change in Japan for one of the stations (TV Osaka), and while they usually air the show each week on the Wednesday after it airs everywhere else, this coming Wednesday they'll be broadcasting both ep12 and 13 together. Weiiiiiiiird.
 
I loved tonight's episode. QT is so adorable. I wonder how those sunglasses stayed on his screen?


Does anyone know what the Japanese reception of the show has been like?
 
What a phenomenal episode. The narrator came up with another set of nicknames to aptly describe this crew in their inept attempt at bagging a space alien. This is a wonderful show.
 

duckroll

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It was a fun episode and I really liked the character moments, like QT learning fishing, the Dandy quiz, and some of the chase humor was pretty spot on. I don't think I like it as much as some of the recent episodes though. Not that there's anything wrong with being a good episode which isn't weird or especially unique though.
 
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