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Spider-Man: No Way Home - First Official Trailer

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
From that spoiler pic of Garfield and McGuire together, I am guessing that the universes of the various Peters are being partially merged or crossing over, like in Into the Spider-Verse. That or Peter is hopping through universes and dragging along their version of Pete with him into the next.

Either way, I hope McGuire's Peter is fashioned after the era of the comics when he was a teacher, blended with Spider-Girl (Mayday Parker). He married MJ, they had a daughter, in McGuire Peter fashion he finally realized that the best thing to do to keep his loved ones safe was to give up "the life", and that's where Holland Peter finds him.

Garfield's Pete, I don't really care. But it would be cool if he went the route of being some kind of young tech company CEO whiz.
 

ManaByte

Member
Either way, I hope McGuire's Peter is fashioned after the era of the comics when he was a teacher, blended with Spider-Girl (Mayday Parker). He married MJ, they had a daughter, in McGuire Peter fashion he finally realized that the best thing to do to keep his loved ones safe was to give up "the life", and that's where Holland Peter finds him.

The rumor is Tobey's Peter has put Spider-Man behind to focus on MJ and their daughter, while Andrew's Spider-Man has put Peter behind to focus on just being Spider-Man after Gwen's death. The rumor is Holland manages to get them both back to the balance between the two.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
The rumor is Tobey's Peter has put Spider-Man behind to focus on MJ and their daughter, while Andrew's Spider-Man has put Peter behind to focus on just being Spider-Man after Gwen's death. The rumor is Holland manages to get them both back to the balance between the two.

That sounds awesome.
 

Star-Lord

Member
The rumor is Tobey's Peter has put Spider-Man behind to focus on MJ and their daughter, while Andrew's Spider-Man has put Peter behind to focus on just being Spider-Man after Gwen's death. The rumor is Holland manages to get them both back to the balance between the two.
I'm okay with this.
 

ManaByte

Member
2) A proper Gwen Stacey arc. They did it in TASM2 which was great, but the movie itself was bad ;_;

TASM and TASM2 both seem like they are two movies different crammed together. You have the ultra shitty Avi Arad stuff with the terrible villain designs and attempts at humor that would make Joel Shumacher pause (in TASM2), but the the whole Gwen Stacy saga is so good it's almost like it was done with Avi Arad locked in a room.
 

Star-Lord

Member
TASM and TASM2 both seem like they are two movies different crammed together. You have the ultra shitty Avi Arad stuff with the terrible villain designs and attempts at humor that would make Joel Shumacher pause (in TASM2), but the the whole Gwen Stacy saga is so good it's almost like it was done with Avi Arad locked in a room.
Vulture's design wouldn't look out of place at Comic-Con. It was fucking awful.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I thought Vulture looked pretty good. At least the suit looked functional in a sci-fi way. I mean remember what they were working from.

The Lizard though. Woof. Dude looked like them koopa troopas from the 80's Super Mario movie.
 

ManaByte

Member
I thought Vulture looked pretty good. At least the suit looked functional in a sci-fi way. I mean remember what they were working from.

The Lizard though. Woof. Dude looked like them koopa troopas from the 80's Super Mario movie.

I think the Goombas look better actually.
 

trikster40

Member
I definitely plan on doing a Spidey marathon before this comes out. I want them fresh so I can catch any Easter eggs they may have. Actually looking forward to watching them again just to see how they’ve aged.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I definitely plan on doing a Spidey marathon before this comes out. I want them fresh so I can catch any Easter eggs they may have. Actually looking forward to watching them again just to see how they’ve aged.

I was just going to watch the Garfield movies again, because I rewatch the Raimi movies every year and could probably recite them nearly line by line from memory by now.
 

Airbus Jr

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Star-Lord

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Let's hope the other spider-mans aren't there to mainly prop up Tom Holland's one.
I wouldn't say either Maguire or Garfield are there to prop Holland up. Holland does a fantastic job at portraying Parker/Spider-Man, it's just the producers and screenwriters haven't given him anything decent to work with. It's no different to Jodie Whittaker in Doctor Who - the character, in itself. is brilliant but the overall story arcs and plots have been awful. Holland has the charm and charisma that fits Parker to a tee, but without a decent script it just falls flat on it's face.
 
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Ulysses 31

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I wouldn't say either Maguire or Garfield are there to prop Holland up. Holland does a fantastic job at portraying Parker/Spider-Man, it's just the producers and screenwriters haven't given him anything decent to work with. It's no different to Jodie Whittaker in Doctor Who - the character, in itself. is brilliant but the overall story arcs and plots have been awful. Holland has the charm and charisma that fits Parker to a tee, but without a decent script it just falls flat on it's face.
Too early to tell of course but the cynic in me suspects that the older spider-mans might act out of character and do stupid things so that the new spider-man will clean up their mess and look better than them in the process. But it's also possible the writers will treat them all with respect and they all come out looking good in the story.
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
Too early to tell of course but the cynic in me suspects that the older spider-mans might act out of character and do stupid things so that the new spider-man will clean up their mess and look better than them in the process. But it's also possible the writers will treat them all with respect and they all come out looking good in the story.
I think there will be more reverence for those versions than that. Not only did Kevin Feige work on the original trilogy, but I don’t think Sony wants to portray their versions of Spider-Man being incompetent in comparison to the Marvel version. Might bruise their ego.
 

Star-Lord

Member
I think there will be more reverence for those versions than that. Not only did Kevin Feige work on the original trilogy, but I don’t think Sony wants to portray their versions of Spider-Man being incompetent in comparison to the Marvel version. Might bruise their ego.
I hope they do show the Maguire/Garfield Spider-Men the respect they deserve, but I hope they don't do it in a way where Holland becomes a background character. I have a strong feeling that Holland's Spider-Man will have to help the others' find a balance between real-life and Spider-life. Maguire's Parker focused too much on MJ and put the superhero life on the shelf too much, whereas Garfield's focused too much on Spider-Man and put real-life on the shelf. Holland's seems to have struck a balance - apart from having his identity blown, obviously - so maybe he can help them.
 

ManaByte

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Posted above is the rumor of how they handle them, and it 100% fits where each of their series ended. Tobey putting Spider-Man behind to be with MJ, Andrew going full-on Spider-Man after Gwen died.

There's also RUMORED to be some stuff about the organic/mechanical web shooters. Some kind of comment about how the organic shooters are gross but then Andrew and Holland run out of fluid while Toby is able to continue swinging or something like that.
 

Javthusiast

Banned
Posted above is the rumor of how they handle them, and it 100% fits where each of their series ended. Tobey putting Spider-Man behind to be with MJ, Andrew going full-on Spider-Man after Gwen died.

There's also RUMORED to be some stuff about the organic/mechanical web shooters. Some kind of comment about how the organic shooters are gross but then Andrew and Holland run out of fluid while Toby is able to continue swinging or something like that.

This all sounds good, hope the stick the landing.
Especially the organic shooters part. I always liked that change to be honest. If he is gonna have spider powers why not go all the way and make him actually create his own web.
 

Corgi1985

Banned
Spiderman 2 is worst spiderman. The entire middle where he gives up being spiderman drags and has no tension because he's fucking spiderman of course he isn't quitting.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
All I really ever want in a Spider-Man movie is two things:

1) Web Cartridges. Peter is supposed to be a brilliant scientific mind. Show that.
2) A proper Gwen Stacey arc. They did it in TASM2 which was great, but the movie itself was bad ;_;

If I can't have those two things, at least give me a proper Symbiote storyline. I know that's out the window now. But they had a perfect opportunity to set it up with Infinity War / Endgame, but didn't (for obvious reasons).
Funny TASM had both of those

Anyway spoilers ahead
This is one of the things I think will happen in the new film
I think MJ( Michelle) is gonna be killed by the Green Goblin on the bridge in the trailer
Gwen Stacy was killed by the Green Goblin on the George Washington Bridge
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although this was in a Clocktower in TASM2
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Which imo was a fantastic scene.
and this was also referenced in Spider-Man 2002 but with Mary Jan, but Peter saved her which I believe was the same Bridge too
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Green Goblin will repeat this and succeed
And this another reason why I disagree with people who say MJ( Michelle Jones) is MJ (Mary Jane Watson) in this universe
I believe they are two different characters and I think she show up either later in the sequelo or at the end
and Peter will meet her when he hears someone call her by MJ.
obviously Peter will automatically think Michelle, and that's how they'll meet.
I think that would be a perfect end cut for the movie

just a thought 🤔
 

ManaByte

Member
and this was also referenced in Spider-Man 2002 but with Mary Jan, but Peter saved her which I believe was the same Bridge too

Spider-Man 2002 broke the cardinal rule of Spider-Man:

If you throw Peter Parker's girlfriend off the George Washington Bridge, you do not let her survive.
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Interesting, there is some supposedly leak dialogue from the film.
This one stood out to me
Spoiler in case this is true and you don't wanna be spoilt
Green Goblin > Tom's Spider-Man

"We are who we choose to be, NOW CHOOSE!"

sounds similar to the original Bridge scene form 2002 Spider-Man

remember I said I think Green Goblin will probably kill or try to kill MJ(Michelle)

Also another line form the original, yet again

Green Goblin to Tom's Spider-Man

" The itsy bitsy spider climbed up the water spout. Down came the Goblin and took the spider out"

😂

Also this one is said to be an emotional scene.

But it's yet again from the original Spider-man and it's Green Goblin to Tom's Spider-Man again.

"Godspeed Spider-Man"
Why would it be emotional?
is Green Goblin gonna kill Tom's, Tobey or Andrews Spidy? 😳
Tom said he isn't contracted after this film 😳
And if they kill one of the originals that's just repeating every other film that's bought back original characters just to kill them off
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Is it bad that I felt zero emotion at the clock tower scene in ASM2?
I can understand not liking the film but you gotta give them that scene.
Did you know the Clock Tower death scene was shot first before the rest of the scene and was kept a secret from Andrew
They sent Andrew Garfield into the room with Emma Stone hanging there dead to get a raw reaction from him.
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
He has another appearance in a MCU movie after this film. Likely whatever the new Avengers movie ends up being or Fantastic Four.

The rumor is,
MJ and Ned die.
I knew it!!
ManaByte ManaByte You seem up rumours
What you think of that one that says Tobey Maguire Spiderman will be sent back to the wrong universe and end up in Venom's & Morbius universe?
 
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ManaByte

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I knew it!!
ManaByte ManaByte You seem up rumours
What you think of that one that says Tobey Maguire Spiderman will be sent back to the wrong universe and end up in Venom's & Morbius universe?

I don't think that's true. That's just based on a lazy trailer VFX person using a picture of the PlayStation 4 Raimi suit in the Morbius trailer. All of the stuff in Morbius (JJ, Vulture) are the from the MCU Spider-Man. Feige even said Spider-Man would be able to cross cinematic universes, and he was talking about Holland when he said that.
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
He has another appearance in a MCU movie after this film. Likely whatever the new Avengers movie ends up being or Fantastic Four.

The rumor is,
MJ and Ned die.
Where are you getting this rumours from...

I hope thats wrong....

Cos if its true..it sucks man...
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.

Those made me laugh
"I didn't have no Super Hero friends, I carried the franchise on my own"
"I wish I could forget you played Spider-man"
"I only watch this trailer because I thought I was in it"
"Pizza Time"
😂
 
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cebri.one

Member
I have this crazy theory which is probably 99% chance of being wrong, when Strange does the spell messes up all the different timelines, that's why the Green Globin or Doc Ock are still alive. The only ones that are not affected are the 3 spidermans as they probably have some kind of bond and Strange himself. Why do I say this?

I have the feeling this is MJ in an alternate universe. I mean why would else he had such a direct contact with an unknown person in a car, I believe he tries to find her only to realize is a complete diferent person and that's why the WTF face.

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I have this crazy theory which is probably 99% chance of being wrong, when Strange does the spell messes up all the different timelines, that's why the Green Globin or Doc Ock are still alive. The only ones that are not affected are the 3 spidermans as they probably have some kind of bond and Strange himself. Why do I say this?

I have the feeling this is MJ in an alternate universe. I mean why would else he had such a direct contact with an unknown person in a car, I believe he tries to find her only to realize is a complete diferent person and that's why the WTF face.

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The face is photoshopped to hide who it really is in the car, it's not even a good photoshop! So it may just be regular MJ before goblin chucks her off a bridge.
 
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cebri.one

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The face is photoshopped to hide who it really is in the car, it's not even a good photoshop! So it may just be regular MJ before goblin chucks her off a bridge.
I think the only one photoshopped there could be Holland himself. I think that guy could be tobey too.
 
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