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Spring 2014 Tokyo MX, er, Anime |OT1.5| ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA
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Couldn't that also imply it DROVE off a cliff? It didn't merely walk to a cliff then trip off, no, it got in a nice race car and drove as fast as it could to see how far it could fly before crashing into a glorious fiery wreck at the bottom of the canyon or mountain.
Turin Turambar
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season 2 confirmed. Was season 1 good?
Eh...
People liked it, but for me it was the typical anime based on LN where it lost a ton of appeal because it was clear the main character will stay the same without changing (so super lonely, depressive, self deprecating) because then the series would be over and there is still tons of LN volumes to sell!
The same with the relationships, there is an "almost a thing" going on between the main boy and the main girl like in so many series but we know it will stay in that place for ages, predictably. You don't want to change the status quo until the end! ugh.
season 2 confirmed. Was season 1 good?
I really liked it. I wonder how far it got in the novel story.
Jex
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UPDATE - Full list with an explanation for each choice so you can tell me how wrong I am available here http://baoh.tumblr.com/
This is all firehawk12's fault. Don't blame me!
Really. This is a terrible, awful idea, but I've written a list and I'm posting on the internet. I'm so sorry.
As someone of you are no doubt aware, firehawk12 has committed the great sin of failing to watch both Revolutionary Girl Utena and Cowboy Bebop. His shameful failure to remove these titles from his backlog got me thinking about what anime I'd consider to be "must watch" material.
Therefore, I have come up with a list of Anime that you absolutely must watch. Simple, eh? Basically everything on this list falls under the category of "So good that should already be watching it right now. Why are you still here?". Many of them are also important to the medium as a whole. These anime need come off your backlog and onto your screen.
Please Note: This isn't a list of all the best anime ever made. It doesn't even have all my favourite anime on it because then it would be far too long. There are dozens and dozens of good titles that you should also watch, but I don't consider them quite as important so they aren't present. I had to stop somewhere and that's why your favourite show isn't on this list!
Also, this isn't a list tailored for you and your tastes because I don't personally know you. I don't know what genres you like, what stories you enjoy, what character-types you favour etc. It's the titles that, with my all my experience of anime, I happen to consider the most important and well made. At least, right now, but it could well be different in a month, so don't treat this as final.
If you're interested in what exact criteria I used to come up with this list - sorry, I don't have any. Any attempt to formalise a system would be pointless. It's a mixture of quality of the title/relevance of the title to the medium/accessibility of the title/length of the title. I have a few films on there that you might not think of as "essential" but as films respect their audiences time so much more than TV shows it's easy to recommend that that you watch them!
This list is not exhaustive, because I haven't seen everything. For example, I know that I am missing a number of shounen titles that are no doubt very important but which I have not seen (Dragon Ball, the new HunterxHunter etc). I can't put shows on the list that I haven't seen them.
I've refrained from using pictures because, well, that would make this post gigantic and a thread in it's own right. I've also refrained from writing any text to support each entry because then, well, the post gets too big to post. A fully explained list with pictures will be linked to on my blog shortly for space constraint reasons.
Movies
The Castle of Cagliostro
Nausicaa
Castle in the Sky
My Neighbour Totoro
Kiki's Delivery Service
Porco Rosso
Whispers of the Heart
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Ghost in the Shell
Patlabor 1/2
Millennium Actress
Tokyo Godfathers
Wolf's Children
Akira
Wings of Honneamise
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
5 Centimetres Per Second
Sword of the Stranger
OVA's
Giant Robo
Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
FLCL
Rurouni Kenshin: Trust & Betrayal
TV
Anne of Green Gables
Rose of Versailles
Cowboy Bebop
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Urusei Yatsura (Episodes 1 - 106) + Beautiful Dreamer
Maison Ikkoku
Legend of the Galactic Heroes*
Space Battleship Yamato 2199
Mononoke
The Flowers of Evil
Mushi-Shi
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Ghost in Shell Stand Alone Complex (Both Seasons)
Dirty Pair
Ojamajo doremi
Sailor Moon - Select Episodes due to length
Kaiji
Baccano!
Gankatsuou
Denno Coil
Gintama
Honey and Clover + Season II
Kemonozume
Kaiba
Monster
Serial Experiments Lain
Gunsliger Girl
This is all firehawk12's fault. Don't blame me!
Really. This is a terrible, awful idea, but I've written a list and I'm posting on the internet. I'm so sorry.
As someone of you are no doubt aware, firehawk12 has committed the great sin of failing to watch both Revolutionary Girl Utena and Cowboy Bebop. His shameful failure to remove these titles from his backlog got me thinking about what anime I'd consider to be "must watch" material.
Therefore, I have come up with a list of Anime that you absolutely must watch. Simple, eh? Basically everything on this list falls under the category of "So good that should already be watching it right now. Why are you still here?". Many of them are also important to the medium as a whole. These anime need come off your backlog and onto your screen.
Please Note: This isn't a list of all the best anime ever made. It doesn't even have all my favourite anime on it because then it would be far too long. There are dozens and dozens of good titles that you should also watch, but I don't consider them quite as important so they aren't present. I had to stop somewhere and that's why your favourite show isn't on this list!
Also, this isn't a list tailored for you and your tastes because I don't personally know you. I don't know what genres you like, what stories you enjoy, what character-types you favour etc. It's the titles that, with my all my experience of anime, I happen to consider the most important and well made. At least, right now, but it could well be different in a month, so don't treat this as final.
If you're interested in what exact criteria I used to come up with this list - sorry, I don't have any. Any attempt to formalise a system would be pointless. It's a mixture of quality of the title/relevance of the title to the medium/accessibility of the title/length of the title. I have a few films on there that you might not think of as "essential" but as films respect their audiences time so much more than TV shows it's easy to recommend that that you watch them!
This list is not exhaustive, because I haven't seen everything. For example, I know that I am missing a number of shounen titles that are no doubt very important but which I have not seen (Dragon Ball, the new HunterxHunter etc). I can't put shows on the list that I haven't seen them.
I've refrained from using pictures because, well, that would make this post gigantic and a thread in it's own right. I've also refrained from writing any text to support each entry because then, well, the post gets too big to post. A fully explained list with pictures will be linked to on my blog shortly for space constraint reasons.
Movies
The Castle of Cagliostro
Nausicaa
Castle in the Sky
My Neighbour Totoro
Kiki's Delivery Service
Porco Rosso
Whispers of the Heart
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Ghost in the Shell
Patlabor 1/2
Millennium Actress
Tokyo Godfathers
Wolf's Children
Akira
Wings of Honneamise
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
5 Centimetres Per Second
Sword of the Stranger
OVA's
Giant Robo
Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
FLCL
Rurouni Kenshin: Trust & Betrayal
TV
Anne of Green Gables
Rose of Versailles
Cowboy Bebop
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Urusei Yatsura (Episodes 1 - 106) + Beautiful Dreamer
Maison Ikkoku
Legend of the Galactic Heroes*
Space Battleship Yamato 2199
Mononoke
The Flowers of Evil
Mushi-Shi
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Ghost in Shell Stand Alone Complex (Both Seasons)
Dirty Pair
Ojamajo doremi
Sailor Moon - Select Episodes due to length
Kaiji
Baccano!
Gankatsuou
Denno Coil
Gintama
Honey and Clover + Season II
Kemonozume
Kaiba
Monster
Serial Experiments Lain
Gunsliger Girl
Basileus777
Member
Fitting that it snowed.
Yea, it is shockingly cold outside today.
Jex
Member
Well there's a lot there but I can pretty safely say that you if you wanted to prioritise titles to watch it would be Whispers of the Heart, and after that Millennium Actress. They're like, the most essential of a list of essential anime. I don't expect most people to watch hundreds of episodes of TV shows but as these are movies they're a fairly low drag on your time.
...Far better than me, though I'm willing to bet my overall watched list is miniscule when compared to others!
Far better than me as well!
The only show I've completed from the list is Gintama, which would definitely be right up the top of my personal list as well.
...Seems really strange to have seen one without the other, especially seeing as Whisper of the Heart is the popular older sibling. People have a tendency to dump on The Cat Returns, but I've always been really fond of it. It's just a solid dose of whimsy!
Basileus777
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This is what's left for me:
I'm pretty good with the films/OVAS, and a lot of the remaining TV shows I've watched partially. Most of the rest is already on the backlog, though there are some I'm not interested in enough to make the time investment. The criteria are pretty random here, because it doesn't seem to be a pure quality list, nor a list of important/influential shows. And of course it's heavily slanted toward certain eras and genres.
I'm pretty good with the films/OVAS, and a lot of the remaining TV shows I've watched partially. Most of the rest is already on the backlog, though there are some I'm not interested in enough to make the time investment. The criteria are pretty random here, because it doesn't seem to be a pure quality list, nor a list of important/influential shows. And of course it's heavily slanted toward certain eras and genres.
Theonik
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Waifu 2:14
Gonna start it later.
Not enough rape for that.
A Shiris is fine too.
Don't worry, the Mushishi BDs were all kinds of terrible from what I heard.In addition to Mushishi (DVDs)
Stop shipping HIdamaris.
Is it about fake wrestling instead of fake monsters?
Where is prince Makoto to rescue Chihaya-hime?
Do it for Nakamura.
While it's true that we all want to see woof suffer, Garzey's wing is love. There is no suffering involved.
Whisper of the Heart is great. WATCH IT.
In other news people watch things that match their tastes and their lists will be biassed in that direction. After the break we'll also learn that your favourite anime is shit.
"The List", as it were, has always stuck me more as a list of anime that is likely to draw a reaction from someone, more than necessarily a list of anime that are bad - there's a few shows on there that I legitimately like (like Oedo 808, though a lot of that is probably nostalgia, though given there's better examples of 90s fifteening on the list I've never understood it's inclusion). That most of the shows are bad in some sense is simply because either bad shows which do really ludicrous things, or bad things which do one really interesting or shocking thing, are more commonplace than good shows that throw this particular mind of curveball.
Code Geass is another of the shows on the list that I genuinely like, but as a piece of entertainment, even if the writing has other qualities, it's very much framed as a schlocky pulp adventure series with an odd sense of humour and some really sudden, shocking left-turns - even in that first series - deliberately made to (pardon my French) make people "lose their shit".
(I actually like Arjuna as well, but whatever).
On a unrelated note, boy, all these people suddenly taking about that first Patlabor movie sure takes me back. I first saw it back around the time of the Windows 95 launch, which was a hilarious piece of synergy. Still one of my favourite Oshii movies, mostly because whilst it still shows most of his idiosyncrasies, it's way more restrained and less dense in both writing and in visual symbolism than his later works in a fashion that I just find far more palatable to watch.
I know the only reason to make lists and discuss them on the internet is the inherent nerd-ism that compels all of us to crank such lists and talk about irrelevant categorisations, but it's still nice to do it because it can promote actual discussion, so whatever.
Of course I'd include/remove some entries here and there, but I guess everyone, including you when you read the list again, will have the urge to do that again, lol. But I was thinking that if you wanted to make a 101 guide to good anime (something for which the question of what is "must watch" would be very relevant), personally I think the focus should go into works that demonstrate the best aspects of Japanese animation (and storytelling within it) in general. To give an example, I like Kaiji but I wouldn't put it on a list of "must watch" shows, because despite the gripping plot, it's... well, a slideshow with the manga panels.
Another rough criteria I'd think has its value is prioritising quality above influence. The Dragon Ball anime is an adaptation of a seminal shounen classic who influenced essentially every shounen adaptation we see today, and if you look carefully at the staff over the years you can even extrapolate the evolution of Toei (a bit) during those years. But it's a pretty shoddy, padded out work, especially when it starts to get into the "Z" part of the manga which is very phoned in. I think many people have said the same about other very influential works like the original Yamato or even Astro Boy, where their legacy and the genres/tropes they spawned have been polished to a way better standard than the originators. Of course they're of historical interest, but history is not something people in general will take interest with just as they're getting into a hobby.
Stuff like Windy Tales or You Are Umasou would make my list simply on the basis of being too damn good, even if they are basically unknown to a lapsed watcher and have had no effect on the larger industry compared to some of the works listed (however small the effect).
I'm not sure what I'm really saying anymore but I wrote all of that and I won't delete it so here go the mandatory personal whines with the list!
-No Hyouka? Even 5cm/s is there!
-If we're considering importance, Gunbuster is definitely something that should go in as it shaped a good deal of what Gainax would be doing under Anno, as well as being an important title for these period of OVA series in the style of Iczer-1.
-I'm sad that Miyazaki gets almost all his films in there but the only Takahata representative is Anne. If it's for me, Only Yesterday is mandatory watching; but if it's for "fairness", at least Grave of the Fireflies should get a spot. It's Ebert approved! lol
It was on TV. It was so long ago I could probably watch it again with a fresh mind.
I thought I was going to get beef for never having seen Ghost in the Shell or Neon Genesis Evangelion since they seem to be a lot of people's first "mature" anime shows.
DeadRockstar
Member
Jexhius, why do you hate Takahata?
As for what I've seen, I'm only missing a few of the TV shows on that list, so 80-90% I guess. The ones I'm missing are long though: Urusei Yatsura, Doremi, Sailor Moon and LOGH ;_; lol
I know he directed Anne
As for what I've seen, I'm only missing a few of the TV shows on that list, so 80-90% I guess. The ones I'm missing are long though: Urusei Yatsura, Doremi, Sailor Moon and LOGH ;_; lol
I can certainly vouch for how great almost everything in this list is. Still need to knock off a good chunk of my backlog and finish off Yamato, LOGH, Gintama, & Sailor Moon tho.
still, smh at firehawk for his unspeakable transgression
R_thanatos
Member
Actually i don't. i wasn't refering to the skills but to the number to competitions won
Maybe i should have went with england instead ?
She totally would.
So that's why the k-on thread is still so active
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Rofl.
The most realistic gun wielding in anime in 2014 just to prove that
gun are useless ?
Magic solves everything, That and a bit of willpower.
Where can one see "The List" ?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I've only seen the bolded. Feels good to have so many great anime still left to watch.
Guys, say hello to the new action animation director for Sword Art Online 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4SekJXXhmo
Could one argue there is need of a topical list of anime one should see (or at least a few episodes of) to understand what people are currently talking about, especially when humour often derives from this. Obviously I'm not the best person to comment on this since any joke about a studio goes over my head. However a list like this would need to be constantly evolving to keep up with topic trends.
He makes AMVs in his spare time? To think SAO managed to get even worse!
He makes AMVs in his spare time? To think SAO managed to get even worse!
R_thanatos
Member
haven't seen these, guess it's not so bad.
this can only mean good things over s1. hah
this can only mean good things over s1. hah
Jex
Member
For all those people who've responded with stuff - I'll get to you shortly! Here's the full list with an explanation for each choice. I couldn't post it here because it's too long (approx 6,000 words) - http://baoh.tumblr.com/
My anime movie watch list is really poor. I've started to crack into it with a few ghibli films but I definitely need to make more progress. It seems like a really solid list though. If I were to add anything it'd probably be Wandering Son. It's a damn good show but the way it presents gay and trans characters & issues is amazing, even compared against general media. When the regular portrayal in anime is either as the punchline to a joke or purely for sexual fanservice, it's refreshing to have something like this.
I dunno, it's not like SAO didn't have good animation. After all, he's replacing this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6gAAbkc_ko
Bolded is what I have seen/recommend
Fuck this cold. Im ready for warmth. Sunlight. SUMMER.
I like you. d-dummy.
It has a cute catgirl in it. It cannot be bad by default.
The List once was simpler and had more effect on people. It got slowly populated with not so listworthy shows and we sorta propagated the dirty version. It should be sorted soon.
This is the one which is generally referred to when someone says "The List".
Just left on the stuff I've not seen - most of those TV shows are too much of a time commit for me, though.
MILLENNIUM ACTRESS IS AMAZING WATCH IT WATCH ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT
I've had a DVD copy sat infront of the TV unwatched for an age now - I just find it way harder to block-out time to watch a movie (particularly something like a Kon movie where paying proper attention is mandatory) when at home than I do to watch TV episodes.
ITS WORTH EVERY SECOND.
I love how it has an aged look to the art and design and its by far Kon's greatest movie. Its soooooo good. Goddammit if I didnt have a million things I want to see from the new season Id watch it literally right now.
My condolences.
Puchimas!! 10-14
Whoa, they really went all out with the production values for a good stretch of episodes there. I really wish they'd just keep up with those production values for all of it though as it was just so fun to actually watch.
Tonari no Seki-kun 15
Oh Goto
Whoa, they really went all out with the production values for a good stretch of episodes there. I really wish they'd just keep up with those production values for all of it though as it was just so fun to actually watch.
Tonari no Seki-kun 15
Oh Goto
Will watch the MAD
I'm sure it is, but I'm not about to watch a Satoshi Kon movie for the first time if I can't guarantee I'm not going to be disturbed partway through, which unfortunately isn't often a possibility.
Basileus777
Member
But then we'd have to put things like SAO on that list. Does anyone really want to make that list?
Turin Turambar
Member
In bold what I watched.
Jex
Member
I think it's more understandable for people to have not watched TV shows because of, well, the time commitment involved. You should still check them out, but for all I know there's just no room in your schedule!
ok that rocked. but all the good bits from SAO were in it already, really there wasn't much outside of those boss fights. It's not about talent and more if they get to do what they're capable of, so yeah you're right.
btw I don't recognize a lot of shows in that AMV, what show is that (0:33 - 0:38)?
Turin Turambar
Member
Let's be honest here. It's a list of bad / shocking anime. As much, it can be said that a few of the list are less "super bad" and more "super troll to the viewers".
If it was a list of "anime that will get a big reaction", and not only "negative reactions" it would also include Planetes, Mushishi, Gits SAC, Tatami Galaxy, etc, as "god this is so good" is also a "big reaction".
It's not even a list of "polemic" or polarizing shows, because then it would have to include Evangelion, Madoka, etc.
edit: god I abused the quotes here.
Turin Turambar
Member
Well done. Great movie.
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