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Spring Anime 2017 |OT| Don't be a SukaSuka for Gacha

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zulux21

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Line_HTX said:
Have it up on Saturday I guess, since Fate/Acopryha is the first show.
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fate isn't until july 2nd in japan while Kakegurui is july 1st.

also on july second
Knight's & Magic
Senki Zesshou Symphogear AXZ: By Shedding Many Tears, the Reality You Face Is...
Katsugeki/Touken Ranbu
 
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Tunoku

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I'm mostly excited for the dance hall show and don't know what else to expect from the season. Necks aside, I'm confident in the people working on it. I'm sure someone is gonna tell me that the original work is bad though.
 
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zulux21

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Tunoku said:
I'm mostly excited for the dance hall show and don't know what else to expect from the season. Necks aside, I'm confident in the people working on it. I'm sure someone is gonna tell me that the original work is bad though.
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the manga it is based off of it ranked 109 overall on MAL.
never read it so can't say if it is good, but that is a very good ranking for a manga and in general it's well received.

https://myanimelist.net/manga/48347/Ballroom_e_Youkoso
 
Cornbread78

Cornbread78

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Line_HTX said:
Have it up on Saturday I guess, since Fate/Acopryha is the first show.
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Reading is fundamental, huh?

Compulsive Gambler 7/1


I might put an OT together for this show tomorrow since it sounds most interesting.


I already have an OT for Owari, but should I create a new one, or just continue using it with the updated dates?



zulux21 said:
the manga it is based off of it ranked 109 overall on MAL.
never read it so can't say if it is good, but that is a very good ranking for a manga and in general it's well received.

https://myanimelist.net/manga/48347/Ballroom_e_Youkoso
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but, but, but, MAL is $hit and the scores are $hit and their ranking mean $hit. ; )
 
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Crimson_Echidna

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Shokugeki no Soma - Completed: So I kind of have a love/hate relationship with the manga, but this portion of the story I did find myself enjoying for the most part. I did enjoy the dynamics with the Polar Star students and while Soma does toe the "Kirito-line" of being too OP, I still find him to be a likable enough character in his own right. If I have a complaint, it's probably the fact that despite the school setting, we never actually see any of these kids in classes. lol

New Game, Episode 1: Another r/anime rewatch that I have never watched. Since season 2 will be starting soon I figured I'd go ahead and join in. This was okay. Was definitely not expecting the fanservice. Humor was mostly on point but typically the whole "Cute girls doing cute things" shows aren't really my jam so I'll give it a few more episodes to see if I like it.
 
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Cornbread78

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Crimson_Echidna said:
New Game, Episode 1: Humor was mostly on point but typically the whole "Cute girls doing cute things" shows aren't really my jam so I'll give it a few more episodes to see if I like it.
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I'm the same with you on this point. I did however, feel this show went a little above that and had some fun with it; especially since they push the fact that they are all adults.
 
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Jex

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javac said:
Outside of Genocidal Organ and Your Name (saw it last year, doubt I'll watch it again but who knows!) I'm interested in everything here to some degree (Not sure about Napping Princess), a good year for anime on the big screen. Shafts Shunji Iwai adaptation Fireworks, Should We See It from the Side or the Bottom? is showing this year too, tentative date is Friday 17 November 2017:
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I'll probably go to all of these screenings.
 
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Qurupeke

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javac said:
Outside of Genocidal Organ and Your Name (saw it last year, doubt I'll watch it again but who knows!) I'm interested in everything here to some degree (Not sure about Napping Princess), a good year for anime on the big screen. Shafts Shunji Iwai adaptation Fireworks, Should We See It from the Side or the Bottom? is showing this year too, tentative date is Friday 17 November 2017:
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That's an amazing lineup.
 
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pbayne

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Isshukan Friends end

A bit unsatisfying but a nice wee show overall. The premise sounds fucking stupid on paper but the show dosen't really lean on it too much.

Mushishi Zoku Shou 2

That shot of the birds on the beach was bloody gorgeous. Mushishi is just in a league of its own at times.
 
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Crimson_Echidna

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Cornbread78 said:
I'm the same with you on this point. I did however, feel this show went a little above that and had some fun with it; especially since they push the fact that they are all adults.
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That's good to hear. Will be checking out the next episode on my break tonight.

zulux21 said:
The Devil is a Part-Timer! Novel Creator Explains Why Anime Has No 2nd Season

spoiler, anime is a business.
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You'd think though with the big Isekai boom since its release that the production committee involved would've pushed for another season though.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
So I am three episodes into ERASED... on a scale of 1 to 10, how bad am I going to feel once I get to the end of this?
 
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Crimson_Echidna

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Aiii said:
So I am three episodes into ERASED... on a scale of 1 to 10, how bad am I going to feel once I get to the end of this?
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Erased reminds me a lot of Death Note in a sense that it hits its biggest emotional climax about 2/3rds of the way through and then kind of flounders the rest of the way. :p
 
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JulianImp

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zulux21 said:
The Devil is a Part-Timer! Novel Creator Explains Why Anime Has No 2nd Season

spoiler, anime is a business.
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More like capitalism, ho!

The same thing happens all the time in the games industry, so it's no wonder other media works the same way. Production companies don't pour money on any kind of consumer media out of sheer goodwill, but rather because they think it's more likely to give them better ROI than some other project they could be investing in instead. Stuff such a crowdfunding has really helped people scout for potential underexploited niches, but even then that's not enough most of the time.
 
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JulianImp

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Crimson_Echidna said:
Erased reminds me a lot of Death Note in a sense that it hits its biggest emotional climax about 2/3rds of the way through and then kind of flounders the rest of the way. :p
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It was pretty interesting at first, but then you realized you were watching a mystery with six or so named characters in it, where only two were adults and one of them was the MC's mom, who (early spoilers)
gets killed in the future fairly early on in the show
, making it obvious who the perp could've been (barring an overly outlandish plot twist such as Kado's). Then yeah, there was that later arc which was just underwhelming as hell and helped end things on a rather sour note.

Satoru's mom was definitely one of the better ones in anime and there were many heartwarming moments along the way, but I think the show was built upon a very filmsy premise, which led to the show collapsing upon itself regardless of the good elements it might've had. The final episodes even had a freaking
exposition dump to explain the perp's motivation
, as if the show felt like it had to give us that to give us a decent climax, but I don't think that was required at all and merely ended up disrupting the flow of the plot with things that didn't matter all that much...

Then there was the whole thing about shipping and complaints, which was pretty weird IMO, both from the plot and the viewers' part.
 
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hosannainexcelsis

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Jexhius said:
I don't have any grand thesis on the current state of anime but I was certainly disappointed (to varying degrees) by a number of shows I checked out this season, whether it was returning favourites like Eccentric Family S2 or promising new ventures like Kado. Still that doesn't overly concern me as next season could well have something that I'll enjoy more.

RE: Sun and Moon & Tiger Mask W, I've checked these out and I can certainly agree that those both of those shows are doing their own thing pretty well. At the moment, however, I'm not really into either of those genres of show.
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That's fair. I'm interested in Pokemon Sun and Moon and Tiger Mask W primarily as an animation fan, with Sun and Moon providing appealingly cartoony kids' entertainment and Tiger Mask solid emotional action-drama.

Jexhius said:
[In this Corner of the World] (Not a great title)

This was very good and deserves a more thorough write-up when I have time. I was not expecting my Japanese WWII movie to have so many elements of magical realist fiction.

I hate to make my only lengthy comment one of criticism, because the film does so many things well, but there's one thing bugged me throughout the movie. There are a number of shots that seem ever so slightly too short. I felt this was especially true at the start of the film, where I felt like almost every shot needed to be held for another second (or more) to have the desired impact. The speed of some of the edits even got a little confusing at times in a manner that was surely unintended. This problem lessened throughout the movie but it still cropped up occasionally later on. It was one strangely unpolished element in an otherwise very effectively directed film.

If you do have a chance to catch it in the cinema you should definitely go to check it out. I can't think of anyone who wouldn't get something out of the film.
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I'm looking forward to seeing this very much, but your criticism is not unexpected. I felt somewhat similarly with Katabuchi's previous film Mai Mai Miracle - a mostly well-crafted work but with something of a lack of polish in the way scenes are put together and edited. That's probably what will keep Katabuchi out of the upper echelon of anime directors for me, as talented as he clearly is.

JCG said:
Not surprisingly, I am largely in agreement with what you've described above. I think it's nice that you took the time to watch ID-0, gave it a chance and ended up enjoying the results so much. Now, since several people can imagine that I also liked the series and there isn't a pressing need for me to provide detailed praise, I can afford to be a little critical here.

In retrospect, it's clear this was intended to be Ido's story and Maya, while important in her own right, didn't get the same amount of focus. I feel the show would have benefitted from having an extra episode or two near the end of the story, in order to make sure certain events flowed more smoothly (specifically, the sequence within the so-called "special space" could have been extended) and maybe better address the one subplot you've referenced as well as give a couple of tertiary characters more of a role (I am mostly thinking of the old man and his last minute companion here), but generally speaking the conclusion was both satisfyingly structured and properly delivered.
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Those tertiary characters are actually what I was referring to as the "small subplot"; not sure if you have something else in mind in addition to that.

The 3D work was good by current TV anime standards, though I still noticed a few of Sanzigen's weaker points from time to time. While I am at it, the finale's postcards weren't quite at Osamu Dezaki levels or anything yet they're still a nice touch.
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The postcards in the ED and final episode aren't as dramatically staged as Dezaki would make them, but they are successful because they are actually drawn and colored by the background art team, rather than just a filter applied over a normally drawn still as many digital anime have done.

squall23 said:
High fifteen ID-0 bros.

There's also a quirky novelty to hearing Hironobu Kageyama singing English.
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There's a bit of a novelty to it, perhaps, but honestly the ED is my least favorite part of ID-0. Kageyama's voice is not suited to a slow English-language pop ballad.

javac said:
Outside of Genocidal Organ and Your Name (saw it last year, doubt I'll watch it again but who knows!) I'm interested in everything here to some degree (Not sure about Napping Princess), a good year for anime on the big screen. Shafts Shunji Iwai adaptation Fireworks, Should We See It from the Side or the Bottom? is showing this year too, tentative date is Friday 17 November 2017:
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Really good lineup there. Speaking of Fireworks, I don't believe the latest commercial for it has been posted in here. The previous trailer had looked a bit bland, but this shows off more of the flair I expected to see from a work by Nobuyuki Takeuchi.
 
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Ascheroth

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JulianImp said:
It was pretty interesting at first, but then you realized you were watching a mystery with six or so named characters in it, where only two were adults and one of them was the MC's mom, who (early spoilers)
gets killed in the future fairly early on in the show
, making it obvious who the perp could've been (barring an overly outlandish plot twist such as Kado's). Then yeah, there was that later arc which was just underwhelming as hell and helped end things on a rather sour note.

Satoru's mom was definitely one of the better ones in anime and there were many heartwarming moments along the way, but I think the show was built upon a very filmsy premise, which led to the show collapsing upon itself regardless of the good elements it might've had. The final episodes even had a freaking
exposition dump to explain the perp's motivation
, as if the show felt like it had to give us that to give us a decent climax, but I don't think that was required at all...

Then there was the whole thing about shipping and complaints, which was pretty weird IMO, both from the plot and the viewers' part.
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Don't forget the fucking cheap cliffhanger fake-outs what felt like. every. single. episode.
Which is probably less of a problem when marathoning it, but boy do I despise those when watching weekly.
 
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Jarmel

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JulianImp said:
More like capitalism, ho!

The same thing happens all the time in the games industry, so it's no wonder other media works the same way. Production companies don't pour money on any kind of consumer media out of sheer goodwill, but rather because they think it's more likely to give them better ROI than some other project they could be investing in instead. Stuff such a crowdfunding has really helped people scout for potential underexploited niches, but even then that's not enough most of the time.
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Obviously but it's not like we're talking about a show that bombed. Of course we could go into the opportunity cost factor but we still do get sequels even for shows that sold less (noticeably less).
 
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hosannainexcelsis

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Jarmel said:
Obviously but it's not like we're talking about a show that bombed. Of course we could go into the opportunity cost factor but we still do get sequels even for shows that sold less (noticeably less).
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Hataraku Maou-sama BDs sold reasonably well, but we have to remember that there are many members of a production committee, not all of whom care about BD sales, and it's difficult to assess the full financial situation of the franchise from the outside. There are many reasons why companies may not want to finance a second season of the anime despite the 11,000 BD sales. (Of course, at the current distance from the first season and with the collapsed Japanese BD market those BD sales mean nothing at this point.)
 
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Jarmel

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hosannainexcelsis said:
Hataraku Maou-sama BDs sold reasonably well, but we have to remember that there are many members of a production committee, not all of whom care about BD sales, and it's difficult to assess the full financial situation of the franchise from the outside. There are many reasons why companies may not want to finance a second season of the anime despite the 11,000 BD sales. (Of course, at the current distance from the first season and with the collapsed Japanese BD market those BD sales mean nothing at this point.)
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Devil is a Part-Timer had a BD average of 11,802. That's not just reasonably well, that's extremely good. That's mostly better than probably 80 to 90% of shows that release nowadays. I understand BD sales are not the only factor but it then you have the LN sales that got a noticeable boost too. It was selling closer to 20k and now does around 70-90k. By all measures the show was a success.

If the old production committee isn't profiting then you make a new one. That's not unheard of.
 
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javac

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hosannainexcelsis said:
Really good lineup there. Speaking of Fireworks, I don't believe the latest commercial for it has been posted in here. The previous trailer had looked a bit bland, but this shows off more of the flair I expected to see from a work by Nobuyuki Takeuchi.
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Looks really good! Never been a fan of Akio Watanabe's character designs however but that's minor if the film itself is good, nevertheless a bitter taste enters my mouth whenever I see them.
 
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JulianImp

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Ascheroth said:
Don't forget the fucking cheap cliffhanger fake-outs what felt like. every. single. episode.
Which is probably less of a problem when marathoning it, but boy do I despise those when watching weekly.
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Daaaaang, don't even remind me about that... Did they really have to plan the episodes so that every single one of them ended on a cheap-as-hell cliffhanger? Like, the whole episode could've been about frienship and loneliness, but of course the last scene will be about a tense and dramatic moment because why the hell not... gah.

Since Erased is a mystery series, it's partly a given that people will keep on watching your show to get to the truth, so I feel like there's no real need to drop cliffhanger after cliffhanger as if they'd actually result in the audience wanting to watch the next episode ASAP. If anything, overusing them ends up having the opposite effect, annoying viewers to no end when the writers reveal they can't really come up with any other way to appeal to those watching the show.
 
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Ascheroth

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JulianImp said:
Daaaaang, don't even remind me about that... Did they really have to plan the episodes so that every single one of them ended on a cheap-as-hell cliffhanger? Like, the whole episode could've been about frienship and loneliness, but of course the last scene will be about a tense and dramatic moment because why the hell not... gah.

Since Erased is a mystery series, it's partly a given that people will keep on watching your show to get to the truth, so I feel like there's no real need to drop cliffhanger after cliffhanger as if they'd actually result in the audience wanting to watch the next episode ASAP. If anything, overusing them ends up having the opposite effect, annoying viewers to no end when the writers reveal they can't really come up with any other way to appeal to those watching the show.
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Especially if those cliffhangers turn out to be entirely misleading or without consequences. At one point it just gets annoying because the teased drama isn't going to happen anyway.
Cornbread78 said:
There are very few, if any shows that are liked here. It's a very "high brow" crowd, lol.
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At least everyone likes Inferno Cop.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
Cornbread78 said:
There are very few, if any shows that are liked here. It's a very "high brow" crowd, lol.


I'm casual scum, lol.
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Oh, I am well aware, heh.

I’m with you, though, my ratings scale has only two possible values: “This is fine” or “I love this, this is the best thing ever”
 
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JulianImp

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Ascheroth said:
Especially if those cliffhangers turn out to be entirely misleading or without consequences. At one point it just gets annoying because the teased drama isn't going to happen anyway.
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Seriously. Then you had all those scenes where the characters would be in strange or suspicios situations, or where they'd be portrayed with glowing red eyes because
... well, for no good reason, actually. Yay?

Ascheroth said:
At least everyone likes Inferno Cop.
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If it's anything like Ninja Slayer, I've got to wholeheartedly disagree on that one. I don't care if it's Trigger or whatever when the show is and looks worse than some of the stuff I watched in Newgrounds back when I was younger... That kind of show structure is also what made me not get into Luluco at all back when it was airing, since I'm not really into scene after scene of navel-gazing "humor".
 
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