Nobody buys a publisher known for releasing buggy games with performance issues and suddenly decides to trust them.I think they should have taken a look at it. But I'm basing what I'm saying on what Phil has said. I hope that they will take a closer look at first party games that are in development now more than ever. Like people have said, they need to have high rated games and not flops coming out in the future.
He said in the interview on xCast that they didn't take a close look at Redfall, but did scramble people in to help with Starfield. Maybe he trusted that Arkane would deliver on their own? He said he still believes in Arkane to produce great games.
And also the interview was scheduled before Redfall came out.
MS already has enough aquisitons being done/attmepted at that moment I guess.One of the console makers should have acquired crystal dynamics. I thought Xbox was dumb for not getting them.
good, but only 6% isn't enough
That 6 percent down could possibly be from not selling your products on a certain platform.
Hopefully MS stop giving them this money and tell them to kindly fuck-off.SE is smart to wait for the Gamepass money
Hopefully MS stop giving them this money and tell them to fuck-off.
Third party publishers, how do they work ? Money comes from consumer buying the games.No money, no honey. It's not a charity.
sony please save square-enix
It's more profitable for xbox to pay you if you are selling a Japanese productThird party publishers, how do they work ? Money comes from consumer buying the games.
If they don't want to release their games on Xbox, it is fine, other third parties will
Not releasing your games to one platform is best way to not build a fan base.And lose even more money? I mean, SE is smart to wait for the Gamepass money before putting its ports on that platform and risking the low sales and returns on the porting cost.
Unless MS pays for the ports there is no reason for SE to release their games on Xbox. You guys said it yourselves, why buy games when we can wait for them to come to Gamepass. Best value in gaming ect....
And I get it that this is backed by irrefutable proof ?It's more profitable for xbox to pay you if you are selling a Japanese product
Get fucked.
This is what happens when you chase nfts.
They have learned nothing.
sony please save square-enix
Square really wants to go down the Konami way, huh? Fuck Square if so. Love their games but I don't idolize any company.
The day they go under I will celebrate like never before. I'll never forgive them for ruining FF. They've been DEAD to me since they released FF X
Guess Sony's money wasn't enough...
Well that was expected and they deserve it.
It's not like they did in the year before. It was just a bad year for them period.
good, but only 6% isn't enough
Hopefully MS stop giving them this money and tell them to kindly fuck-off.
He is right, since Xbox has shit low console in Japan. They don't have the proper userbase to cultivate fan base who like those games.And I get it that this is backed by irrefutable proof ?
With gamepass it's up to Microsoft to build the fanbase by paying for those games. I can see the temptation to wait for the gamepass dealNot releasing your games to one platform is best way to not build a fan base.
Capcom does put their games on Xbox and their games sell a lot of copies on all platforms.
If square don't want to put their games on Xbox that is fine. It's their properties. They can do whatever that want with it.
Japanese games only sell in Japan ?He is right, since Xbox has shit low console in Japan. They don't have the proper userbase to cultivate fan base who like those games.
Sony has like 9m PS4 and 1m+ PS5. It's why Japanese games sell alot there. Same with Nintendo.
They are wasting their money focusing on nfts, instead of using it on their IPs.I know you all want the company to fail for some bitter reason or another, however the company just posted roughly a $330million net profit and this is their 3rd best year ever I believe. Their stock price is up with todays news and up 30% YoY. With the likes of FFXVI, FFXIV expansion, FFVII Remake project, DQXII, NieR and KH3 and others still yet to come and the company being profitable and now trimming the fat, I'm afraid you'll be waiting many more years, probably a decade or two before you get your wish. I hope the wait will be worth it.
Meanwhile, I enjoy their output, which is a lot better and varied than most other publishers right now who struggle to ship one or two competent games a generation.
I know you all want the company to fail for some bitter reason or another, however the company just posted roughly a $330million net profit and this is their 3rd best year ever I believe. Their stock price is up with todays news and up 30% YoY. With the likes of FFXVI, FFXIV expansion, FFVII Remake project, DQXII, NieR and KH3 and others still yet to come and the company being profitable and now trimming the fat, I'm afraid you'll be waiting many more years, probably a decade or two before you get your wish. I hope the wait will be worth it.
Meanwhile, I'll enjoy their output, which is a lot better and varied than most other publishers right now who struggle to ship one or two competent games a console generation these days.
You need Japanese audience first. Xbox has to sell 1m+ Xbox to do that.With gamepass it's up to Microsoft to build the fanbase by paying for those games. I can see the temptation to wait for the gamepass deal
You get more home sales, unless it's big titles. Plus having a lot of home sales is good for Japanese devs.Japanese games only sell in Japan ?
Think most of your copies are gonna get sold on pc, playstation, and Nintendo. And the one platform that sells the least has been handing out fuck tons of cash upfront for a port. You might as well let them pay for that and some profit on top. If they they are willing to pay for persona they can pay you.And I get it that this is backed by irrefutable proof ?
They just bought persona on there they are in control of what they get with gamepassYou need Japanese audience first. Xbox has to sell 1m+ Xbox to do that.
You get more home sales, unless it's big titles. Plus having a lot of home sales is good for Japanese devs.
So basically nothing to backup what you claim.Think most of your copies are gonna get sold on pc, playstation, and Nintendo. And the one platform that sells the least has been handing out fuck tons of cash upfront for a port. You might as well let them pay for that and some profit on top. If they they are willing to pay for persona they can pay you.
Having home sales is good, ok great. They can have home sales on PS and Switch, this doesn't prevent them for having WW sales as well including Xbox.You get more home sales, unless it's big titles. Plus having a lot of home sales is good for Japanese devs.
Show me the big selling Japanese games on XboxSo basically nothing to backup what you claim.
100% agree with you on the NFT crap and that Forspoken was a missfire that needed more attention. I have long wanted S-E to trim the fat, make a few less b/c-tier games each year and put all their artistic and financial reserves into making the bigger kinds of games that people want.They are wasting their money focusing on nfts, instead of using it on their IPs.
Forsaken would have been a good game, had square out more resources and polished that game, which in turn would have sold a lot of copies.
Gamepass is separate entity.They just bought persona on there they are in control of what they get with gamepass
They can buy the games and the consoles will start to sellGamepass is separate entity.
You need the console to have Japanese audience and have at least 1m sales for the console.
This way, you get more Japanese games, without having to put it on gamepass. As a result, your global audience will have these Japanese games on their console.
Right now Xbox doesn't have that without game pass assistance.
Home sales allows other devs to put their games on your platform.Having home sales is good, ok great. They can have home sales on PS and Switch, this doesn't prevent them for having WW sales as well including Xbox.
It is not about selling a lot, it is about making a profit out of it so that it is worthwhile. And if I look at what has been happening in recent years, there are more and more Japanese games, including very niche ones, making it to Xbox. Not all of them coming directly to Game Pass either.Show me the big selling Japanese games on Xbox
Because all of these games are released WW to begin with ? So the fact that you sell them in Japan is irrelevant ?Home sales allows other devs to put their games on your platform.
How do you expect your global audience to have those games, when you have tiny presence in that country?
You need to sell the console first. Then the Japanese audience will buy those games.They can buy the games and the consoles will start to sell
They aren't holding a gun to squares head square isn't dying to put games on Xbox its just that this strategy is making square more money. Microsoft just gotta open thier walletIt is not about selling a lot, it is about making a profit out of it so that it is worthwhile. And if I look at what has been happening in recent years, there are more and more Japanese games, including very niche ones, making it to Xbox. Not all of them coming directly to Game Pass either.
If sales were abysmal as you pretend, Sony wouldn't be blocking major Square-Enix games out of Xbox.
Well who knows, maybe they will. And the world will burn... again.Microsoft just gotta open thier wallet
You never want to become BLOATED. Plus if either or buys them. They’ll lose deals and financing from the other, which is actually a huge part of their business. That being said, since Sony has made PC a part of their business. It can be viable for them if they further expand the Square-Enix library into PC to get their return in investment quickly.Why haven’t Sony or Nintendo acquired them yet?
How much of that profit was from NFT shite?I know you all want the company to fail for some bitter reason or another, however the company just posted roughly a $330million net profit and this is their 3rd best year ever I believe. Their stock price is up with todays news and up 30% YoY. Talk about an agenda from the OP with the doom spin.
With the likes of FFXVI, FFXIV expansion, FFVII Remake project, DQXII, NieR and KH4 and others still yet to come and the company being profitable and now trimming the fat, I'm afraid you'll be waiting many more years, probably a decade or two before you get your wish. I hope the wait will be worth it.
Meanwhile, I'll enjoy their output, which is a lot better and varied than most other publishers right now who struggle to ship one or two competent games a console generation these days.
That's what happens when you release a 'Forspoken' and put most of your games on one console!Get fucked.
This is what happens when you chase nfts.
Japanese devs aren't going to spend time, money and resources to make 2 Xbox versions of their games and then risk not even breaking even.It is not about selling a lot, it is about making a profit out of it so that it is worthwhile. And if I look at what has been happening in recent years, there are more and more Japanese games, including very niche ones, making it to Xbox. Not all of them coming directly to Game Pass either.
If sales were abysmal as you pretend, Sony wouldn't be blocking major Square-Enix games out of Xbox.
Because all of these games are released WW to begin with ? So the fact that you sell them in Japan is irrelevant ?
I'm guessing that low Xbox sales (non-existent some would say) really hurt it.Revenue down despite the release of Foresaken or because of the release of Foresaken?
Well spoken, SE remains my favorite publisher. A variety of games none of which launch buggy and unfinished. People just have a hate boner because they actually don't repeat themselves. It's funny because everyone bitches about AAA publishers copying and pasting games, yet the one publisher not doing that gets constant hate for NOT sticking to old formulas.I know you all want the company to fail for some bitter reason or another, however the company just posted roughly a $330million net profit and this is their 3rd best year ever I believe. Their stock price is up with todays news and up 30% YoY. Talk about an agenda from the OP with the doom spin.
With the likes of FFXVI, FFXIV expansion, FFVII Remake project, DQXII, NieR and KH4 and others still yet to come and the company being profitable and now trimming the fat, I'm afraid you'll be waiting many more years, probably a decade or two before you get your wish. I hope the wait will be worth it.
Meanwhile, I'll enjoy their output, which is a lot better and varied than most other publishers right now who struggle to ship one or two competent games a console generation these days.
That’s a weird reply from you. I am playing Square Enix games since they were Squaresoft. First ff game I played was FFVII. In no way I wish them to go bankrupt etc. but we have to admit that their output is poor compared to years prior. I am not hater, I hope they find their steps again. Meanwhile, I hope they put nfts in their games and you keep enjoying them.I know you all want the company to fail for some bitter reason or another, however the company just posted roughly a $330million net profit and this is their 3rd best year ever I believe. Their stock price is up with todays news and up 30% YoY. Talk about an agenda from the OP with the doom spin.
With the likes of FFXVI, FFXIV expansion, FFVII Remake project, DQXII, NieR and KH4 and others still yet to come and the company being profitable and now trimming the fat, I'm afraid you'll be waiting many more years, probably a decade or two before you get your wish. I hope the wait will be worth it.
Meanwhile, I'll enjoy their output, which is a lot better and varied than most other publishers right now who struggle to ship one or two competent games a console generation these days.
Pretty much all S-E related threads, whether its new FFXVI footage or a financials, you get an wave of bitter folks that look to spin a story of doom, so felt like pushing back a little given the company recorded a profit and not a big loss like some are trying to suggest.That’s a weird reply from you. I am playing Square Enix games since they were Squaresoft. First ff game I played was FFVII. In no way I wish them to go bankrupt etc. but we have to admit that their output is poor compared to years prior. I am not hater, I hope they find their steps again. Meanwhile, I hope they put nfts in their games and you keep enjoying them.
They lost their charm as a company.
Have a nice day.