Yeah, I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. It's actually been a while since I've held FF games to higher standards, but still look forward to them nonetheless.
Square Enix asks fans about if Persona 5/FF15 were out at same time, release hint?
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Yeah, I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. It's actually been a while since I've held FF games to higher standards, but still look forward to them nonetheless.
Why on earth are you dragging Capcom into a comparison with Konami. Capcom is FAR better in the modern age than any of the other ones you listed. And square have made plenty of stinkers in recent years.
EekumBokum
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I mean, I'm going to buy both games day one and enjoy the hell out of them I'm sure. I just think much higher of Persona games than I do Final Fantasy games, and the question was which game would I buy if they were out at the same time so my answer naturally gravitates towards the series I have a higher opinion of. I'm also not a fan of how FFXV has been changing since its E3 re-reveal, and that has been deflating my interest in that game a bit.
KaidoRacer7
Member
Persona 5. FF era is over.
jetsetnickradio
Member
Persona 5, definitely. It's taking the formula I loved from P3 and P4 and it's expanding on it in all the right ways (or so it seems.)
I'll probably buy Final Fantasy XV because I love the series, but frankly I don't think FFXV looks very good. Cars, big empty open-worlds and janky real-time action battles are not what I want from Final Fantasy.
I'll probably buy Final Fantasy XV because I love the series, but frankly I don't think FFXV looks very good. Cars, big empty open-worlds and janky real-time action battles are not what I want from Final Fantasy.
Preach it.
XV isn't even out yet, and I already have nostalgic feels. Especially since my childhood and adolescent years revolved around waiting to go on a grand adventure with Noctis and his friends.
It's nice to know that the wait is almost over. Like Noctis said, "It's been a long time coming, almost there."
Crash Station
Member
There's going to be people that like P4 better, just like there are people that like P3 better than P4.
If there ends up being arguments about whether P5 is better or P4, I think 5 will be a smashing success.
And really, this is a team I have a lot more faith in than the poorly managed, constantly changing and arguably "too many cooks" team of FFXV. Even the Persona team's block pushing spin-off ended up being amazing. I'd be very surprised if they ended up disappointing with 5.
That's basically how I did try it.
In 12+ hours, I saw maybe 30 minutes of cool narrative stuff. The CG intro is nice. The story parts didn't seem to be well-focused though and the characters were hardly memorable. (I played it when ARR came out on PC)
I don't want to play games where it's all: run around a huge map to bring me 5 of X and kill 10 of Y.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
As much as I love Persona 5, these internet polls don't really tell the whole story. Final Fantasy XV will leave it in the dust in terms of sales. I don't even know why Square Enix is comparing them. We already know which one will sell more.
If Persona 5 and FFXV came out at the same time it'd be Persona 5 that suffers. Not the other way round.
If Persona 5 and FFXV came out at the same time it'd be Persona 5 that suffers. Not the other way round.
pretty much.
mikefrails
Banned
I'm sure they want to dodge P5's date at all cost.
I initially thought this, but remembered that P5 is also coming out on PS3&4, whereas FFXV is PS4 only. If the sell through rate on PS4's in Japan isn't too hot (I haven't checked numbers, I have no idea), the persona series has become popular enough to actually pose a credible threat in that country.
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Though I don't think I'd call Atlus more efficient. What happened to Etrian Odyssey V? How long did it take to release P4D?
names2hard4you
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Man I can't wait to play Final Fantasy XV and all, but the obvious answer is Persona 5. Unless this is for Japan only, and we get FF XV in the summer internationally (since they could actually do it), with a Fall/Winter release for Persona 5 for us here in the west.
I don't think they're comparing them, so much as they've realized the series has gained the kind of mindshare that would be unwise to ignore.
The core/enthusiast audience having an almost even split in the title they favor could be foreshadowing a blowup for Persona. Square has to recognize that possibility, however slight it might be. That's just good observation.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I'm fine with both, but still not believing FF15's out next year until the second it's in stores
I'm an FF/KH fan. I'm used to SE fucking me over. Not falling for it again nope :x
I'm an FF/KH fan. I'm used to SE fucking me over. Not falling for it again nope :x
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Sure, but Worldwide it's no contest. Even then, I can't see a situation where Persona 5 heavily outsells FFXV in Japan either.
Yeah, I guess. I mean, independently of FFXV's selling potential, I'm really curious to see how much Persona 4 has done for the franchise overall. P4G pulled ridiculous numbers for a port on a stillborn Handheld. P5 will definitely be a success. That, at the very least, is an interesting conversation to have.
cj_iwakura
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That is one irritating survey.
LowParry
Member
Well hey, good news for you is we'll know when exactly (or roughly by months) when it's coming out in March.
Though I don't think I'd call Atlus more efficient. What happened to Etrian Odyssey V? How long did it take to release P4D?
Yeah the delays suck but everything they've shown about Persona 5 has met with lots of positive reactions, the same can't be said about XV unfortunately.
I don't disagree, but remember, this was a poll extending to Japanese fans.
As someone else said, this is a big attempt at revitalizing the entire franchise moving forward. It's not so much that they're worried about getting outsold, it's that they could lose potential customers by releasing against a game where there's a sizeable market overlap. Even if it's just 25%, that's still something they probably can't afford on day one.
People just took the poll and are running with it, thinking it means that one could outsell the other. It's nothing of the sort: It's just an overlapping audience.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Persona 5. Sorry XV but you are no Versus.
Still would buy them both but P5 has priority. Just release FFXV fall 2016 SE.
Still would buy them both but P5 has priority. Just release FFXV fall 2016 SE.
Heck yeah.
The personal significance of FFXV probably far exceeds that of any other game.
I really hope I see this through before I die.lol
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Makes sense. Bring up an interesting conversation. A lot of people seem to think FF has been severely damaged over the years, but I don't think that can be fully assessed until FFXV is released. Really interested to see just how well it does now that the landscape has changed so much.
AkelisRain
Member
Surprised to see so many actually leaning towards P5, personally not a fan of the Persona/SMT series. I will cautiously wait on FFXV though.
I honestly don't know if that's true anymore... First original mainline Persona since 4? I think it's going to sell almost as well.
There's also only a fraction of P5 on display vs quite a bit of footage and a demo for FFXV (granted its pretty much all one area.)
This is the kind of stuff that makes somebody at SE ago, "Huh."
jetsetnickradio
Member
Though I don't think I'd call Atlus more efficient. What happened to Etrian Odyssey V? How long did it take to release P4D?
Yeah they're definitely not efficient, mainline Persona series skipped a whole generation after all, but when their games finally release they're consistently high quality (well, maybe not the Persona spin-offs.)
KZXcellent
Member
Both look fantastic. Day 1 for me on both. I can't choose.
P5 probably went through development hell.Its just been kept under wraps.
If SE had never even shown Versus to the public,if we'd known nothing till Tabata's reveal in TGS2014,would that suddenly indicate a smooth sailing development ?
You have to consider the enormous gap between P4 and P5.You can't possibly say that Atlus had no trouble at all managing this thing.
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JeremyEtcetera
Unconfirmed Member
At least Square took those chances. How many franchises other than Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, and (Barely) Devil May Cry are Capcom utilizing? Better yet, how many good risks have they taken in the past 4-5 years? Why do they keep handing out their franchises to unproven western studios? Where is their version of Nier 2? Why is the Megaman franchise dead or on life support? Why is another developer, not associated with them, doing an Onimusha-like game(Ni-Oh)? Besides all this...where have you been lately?
I think a Summer release for FFXV is the best thing for it. Definitely not Fall. Also, I need more proof that Persona 5 isn't just Persona 3 and Persona 4 in terms of most of what you do in the game(besides the story they tell). If I'm still running from area to area just doing social links to use for fighting in dungeons, then where is the series really evolving?
Their troubles were probably financial. All the spin-offs, animes, movies, and other low-mid budget games, and remakes they released in the meantime make that clear. Not to mention their parent company went under.
They were only beginning dev prep in 2010, too.
they also did have Catherine in between P4 and P5 but yeah it's definitely not all perfect. I assume the PS4 version added significant development time.
manipulate
Member
That and the original release being declared for winter 2013!
meanspartan
Member
Summers are typically too barren. Release around the same time, and as long as the game is good, most gamers will happily buy both, even if they buy Persona first.
omg I forgot that.
Yeah.P5's definitely been through massive hell.
Glad its coming at all,tbh.
Catherine was a test of an engine to see if they could use it for Persona 5. Persona 5 wasn't even in dev yet.
Financial hell, sure.
Battlechili
Banned
I'd pick Final Fantasy XV in a heartbeat. I have much more faith and trust in Nomura and Square than I do in Atlus and Persona. (although Tabata worries me). Persona 3 in particular drove me insane with the repetitiveness of Tartarus, and I hated how all the characters seemed so easily prone to talking about their lives and problems and being so open, something that isn't alleviated in 4. Normal humans aren't so easily open. The characters in P3 were extremely archetypical and one could conceivably predict how they'd all react in each situation, something I can't say for even some of Nomura's characters in Kingdom Hearts of all things, and KH's characters are certainly not the highlight of the series. Plus I just like ARPGs more, and Yoko Shimomura's music is like sex to my ears. I mean Persona has good music but I much prefer Shimomura over Meguro.
i know that. I was saying that also helps explain the long time between the two games.
As a new mainline Final Fantasy game?
Persona has grown popular but in no way will it outsell FF even in Japan, it more about overlap audience, look at Lunar15 post.
Shifty1897
Member
Anyone who says FFXV hasn't played Persona 4 Golden and I pity them.
Persona 5 Day One!
Persona 5 Day One!
That's not true at all. Catherine was a test for current generation (at the time) console development, but not for the engine. Plus, Persona 5's development was confirmed on March 24, 2010, with Hashino saying that he wanted to add elements in P5 different from previous games.
Plus, Persona 5 was even potentially hinted at on December 18, 2009, when Hashino talked about the teams working on Persona 4 Golden and Catherine progressively coming together as their games wrapped up development to work on "that."
hoho.Forgot about that.
PS4 version was a great announcement.I'd expect most sales will be on that version.
whoever decided to put P5 on PS4 was right.It significantly helped hype up the game.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Ehh you mean Tabata? Nomura is long gone.