Dubbedinenglish
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FYI-Elite is on sale for 15 American currencies.
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Star Citizen Pre-Alpha: 'Arena Commander' Dogfighting
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It's not enough. We need to go higher. And by 'we' I mean not me.
I should point out that Horizons includes the base Elite game, so if somebody is interested in getting the expansion, it is better to wait.
Good call. On the other hand, if somebody is not sure they're going to like it, 15$ is a great entry price. Horizons can be still bought later, e.g. if it should be on sale. Or it could be skipped for season 3, which would probably arrive about December next year and will include Horizons. If they're going to keep their pricing model.
Rephin
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I'm off work tonight so... let's do this!
Weren't they going to add some sort of group/party method or was that already implemented?
Hmm, not sure. Either way, the first step is people have to be following each other's PTU profile in order to see each other in the friends list. I've added you - here's mine:
https://ptu.cloudimperiumgames.com/citizens/Raticus79
They're lasting quite a bit longer now with the higher supply and new restrictions, so you still can have a good shot at it.
Rephin
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Follow'd. I'm still crashing a lot, and obviously the servers are getting swamped right now so it's hard to connect. Maybe I'll try again in a little bit. There doesn't seem to be a big improvement in the crashing for me, though.
Found the reason for the consistent crash I was getting when the canopy closed and it was trying to bring up the ship HUD - it was due to running SC through Steam without running Steam as admin. Probably something about it trying to use the Steam controller inputs.
https://ptu.cloudimperiumgames.com/...gh_Steam_-_resolved_by_running_Steam_as_Admin
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Looks like things are pretty stable for me on 1080p with SLI disabled. I had a nice long session here (17 minutes):
https://youtu.be/O6deFY_D2YA
I added some notes with interesting timestamps. Edit: finished uploading now.
https://ptu.cloudimperiumgames.com/...gh_Steam_-_resolved_by_running_Steam_as_Admin
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Looks like things are pretty stable for me on 1080p with SLI disabled. I had a nice long session here (17 minutes):
https://youtu.be/O6deFY_D2YA
I added some notes with interesting timestamps. Edit: finished uploading now.
Woah. Amazing price. Month ago i would buy it in a heartbeat ;p
CyberPunked
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It has to be one of them, it's such a large improvement. Although the game looks amazing now, when it's released in a 1-2 years, it won't look as phenomenal.
Why not (except for Horizons probably getting released in December)? ;p Some Elite/SC exchange would be welcome. ^^
Dictator93
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Hey Raticus, were you using the VRAM .ini tweaks for this gameplay posted? Interesting to notice 5.3 GB VRAM used at 1080p.
I bought Battlefront and Fallout 4 recently, both at launch. Played them both for about an hour
I would buy Elite and not even launch it ;p
It is still refreshing at 9 am pst?
mercenar1e
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is anyone else getting tossed into deep space when you're floating around the abandoned shipping station?
its like the game is trying to tell me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrOJCieTJ4
its like the game is trying to tell me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrOJCieTJ4
I've seen it happen to other people, yes. Are you on d?
mercenar1e
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yeah and the new update crashes just as often.
the landings are incredibly fragile as well.
With fewer crashes, the real bugs start to make themselves more apparent.
Something like that - they originally said 9am EST but it's been more like 9am PST.
Yup, here are the first 4 lines:
con_Restricted = 0
sys_spec = 4
r_TexturesStreamPoolSize = 6144
e_ShadowsPoolSize = 2048
staticneuron
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9 am PST, Noon EST.
I am gonna try to get a Phoenix today. It will most likely be my last ship purchase/CCU.
Irobot82
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So I can't really tell judging by the specs sheet, but can the Hull B travel in "hyper space" (I forgot what SC calls it). Will SC have relay's like Mass Effect for ships that don't?
staticneuron
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Based off the description of Hull A and Hull B it looks like neither one are equipped with leaper engines.
Hull A
Hull B
Despite that the Q&A for the Hull
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14684-Hull-B
and
Indicates there is a possibility but that isn't nailed down yet.
Dictator93
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BTW, they fixed the lack of per object motion blur on Character Models.
YESSSSS
GOD EXISTS
YESSSSS
GOD EXISTS
Too bad it is one of the first things I disable to get a bit more performance. The motion blur is expensive AF.
Dictator93
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CryEngine takes no prisoners.
staticneuron
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LTI's are sold on concept sales. And that sale has already passed. Last year in August was concept sale.
on the sale page for anniversary it states
So no CCU.
I am sad, but 3 year isn't to bad so I got it anyways.
Zalusithix
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Not sure what's going on there. There definitely wasn't a refresh today. I'm not sure if they're just lagging on it or what.
Well it's hull limited to 5000 units, so I think they disabled it as a CCU target to preserve that counter. Unlike the first time where CCUs weren't counted and allowed far more Phoenix to be sold than the 5000 limit. That being the case, the only way to get LTI on it will be to buy the $1600 package. I think it's safe to assume most wont buy that pack for the Phoenix alone. Ships like the Hull E are end of the line ships for CCU that you'll never be able to change unless they make a CCDowngrade, so you wouldn't buy a pack like that unless you really wanted the E. It's what stopped me from doing yesterday's pack. Unfortunately I have no interest in the Starliner, and at $400 it would have been a dead end ship for me. Saving ~$100 on a pack means nothing if I've spent $400 on something I don't want.
Still, the standard insurance of 3 years is pretty damned close to LTI. I'd melt and flip to it from my 6 month insurance version if it wasn't tied to a physical package. All those physical goods are worth a lot more to me than the base hull insurance. Especially since you can't get them anymore. And unlike the limited ships, I can be pretty damn sure they'll never go back on sale.
Edit: Beaten on the Phoenix
Here's the quote from their page: "To that point, the Constellation Phoenix has proven so popular that RSI produces only a select number every sales season, a tactic that has done well to preserve it’s high demand and resale value year after year. For 2945, Roberts Space Industries is proud to release another 5000 hulls, matching it’s generous rollout from the year before. This year however, in order to maintain a finite and limited stock, Cross-Chassis Upgrade to the Phoenix will not be enabled. This ship will remain on sale throughout the weekend, ending either when time runs out, or the limited stock is exhausted."
Hmph, so they did make it quantity limited after all.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Standalone-Ships/Constellation-Phoenix-Anniversary-2015
4691/5000 remaining at the moment. They have 3 year insurance instead of LTI.
Hmph, so they did make it quantity limited after all.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Standalone-Ships/Constellation-Phoenix-Anniversary-2015
4691/5000 remaining at the moment. They have 3 year insurance instead of LTI.
staticneuron
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Not even 30 mins and 400 sold already. Lol, I am curious as to how the Total Funds look after this sale.
Ha! Take that, graphics bug downvoters.
Dictator93
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hah !
Thanks for the help everyone with that.
Radicus, if you have the chance, could you take a screen shot of it in motion? Of someone running past you or perhaps your first person player hand interacting with something?
Zalusithix
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You aren't looking hard enough:
No matter what they do, somebody will be pissed off. But yes, I agree that this is a decent solution for the touchy situation the Phoenix finds itself in. I wouldn't mind if they retroactively give the original buyers 3yr insurance though.
The weirdness around insurance durations in general lately has me leaning toward to possibility that they're just going to switch things over to (retroactively) include LTI on all pre-release ships sometime after the sale's done.
That would create a huge shitstorm that they would want to avoid. There are some legitimate issues in that LTI versions, i.e. concept sales ships are more expensive than when they are flight ready.
I honestly think LTI as a raison d'etre is stupid and pointless and CIG has on numerous occasions said the same, but they have profited from the idea nonetheless. I think one way to actually move forward is to poll the whole community to see what they would want to do, that way it reduces chances of people feeling like CIG is imposing or taking something away from people.
Zalusithix
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One of the more interesting speculations I saw on the official forums was doing something akin to the "no alpha/beta pass" thing at 1 million backers. Basically an "LTI for all" announcement at $100 million pledged. It would be as good a time as ever to bite the bullet and get it over with. As it is, every year they've increased the insurance period on the anniversary sales. Might as well just get it over with, and give LTI to all. There will be whining of course, but in this damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, you might as well put all backers on the same footing. People that have LTI don't lose anything (other than feeling special). People that don't have it gain whatever trivial bit it's worth.
All speculation though. I made sure to cover my bases and picked up enough P-72s that in combination with unmelting and CCUs, I'll be able to LTI the ships I'm targeting over 2016. (Overall target list being the Orion, Reclaimer, Crucible, Hull D, Herald, Avenger Warlock, Khartu, MM, Vanguard Sentinel, 350R, and Cutlass Red. Possibly the Redeemer and M50. List is subject to change, and as such only the P72s are listed in the roster until they're actually CCUd completely.)
Meanwhile they have shifted ~700 Phoenixes in 1.5 hours. Clearly, the Phoenix isn't so special that it will fly off the shelves and clearly LTI isn't so special that without it nobody would buy such a ship.
Also because of the mess up in the Starter Pack timings, after half an hour there are still 433/1000 packages left. Anybody interested, now is your chance.
Also because of the mess up in the Starter Pack timings, after half an hour there are still 433/1000 packages left. Anybody interested, now is your chance.
staticneuron
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That really doesn't prove anything.
Yes CIG has said that LTI isn't going to be a big deal, but people still like to have that comfort level. They way I see it, people with multiple ships and some that have LTI can simply fly those ships if they do not have enough to insure the ships that may not be covered.
But as far as the sales go, it could have been possible that they would have sold more if they allowed CCU. You never know, people might have spent the extra money to get the ship and have the insurance from the one they already pledged, so it was simply trading up for those who missed the limited concept sale phase.
Some people, like me, are not going to cry blood over not being able to do a CCU, but really can't blame anyone who avoids this purchase because that was disabled.
EDIT: also even if they sell out there are like 813,000 ships out there and over 1 million backers. There is a very large possibility for there to be 5,000+ people who wouldn't mind getting the ship sans LTI
Looks like they restocked some time over the last hour. 300 left at the moment:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Star-Citizen-Starter
It is one thing not to buy it. It is quite another to cast it as the worst decision in the world.
AFAIK none of the equipment on board of LTI ships is covered, only the hull. So they'll have to be paying insurance on the equipment or cargo. Presuming that CIG wants to keep things balanced then they'll skew the costs of insurance onto equipment, making the theoretical payment of in lieu of LTI meaningless in the total cost of insuring the ship. I certainly consider it nice to have, but certainly not the central focus.
staticneuron
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Ohh you probably don't want to do that. When you go to the CCU pages all of them state
It seems as if by the next version of the PU then CCU's will cease to exist.
You know the people that are doing it have some sort of sour grapes. Either they had planned on CCUing and this sale foiled it, or they are one of those backers who think that without LTI they will never spend a certain amount on a ship.
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