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Star Trek: Beyond - Review Thread
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but we already got a superior non-action trek film
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2nd best film.but we already got a superior non-action trek film
Yoshi
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- Needing some ancient plate to get a weapon to work
- Destroying a fuckton of ships by merely playing music on "a frequence they least expect"
- Being stranded on a planet without ability to call for help, but still obtaining all kinds of sensitive information like Enterprise's logs from far away
- The whole story is a very basic good/evil conflict without any moral shades or dilemmas whatsoever
- The whole character design of Krall, even outside of the pure motivation for mass murder
- Destroying a fuckton of ships by merely playing music on "a frequence they least expect"
- Being stranded on a planet without ability to call for help, but still obtaining all kinds of sensitive information like Enterprise's logs from far away
- The whole story is a very basic good/evil conflict without any moral shades or dilemmas whatsoever
- The whole character design of Krall, even outside of the pure motivation for mass murder
I would not call that decent, it's a clichéy, simple good/evil story with a bad villain design. I absolutely don't see what this movies does particularly well in the main plot. It has nice humour, and good to sometimes even great character interaction between the main characters, but the main plot is just... dumb.
Succinct Verbosity
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You know the weirdest thing about Insurrection?
There was an episode where Native Americans were straight up forcefully relocated and Picard followed that command (though conflicted) while chewing Wesley put for defying him. Yet, he is happy to save the ehitest bunch of people due to a chick he wants to bone.
There was an episode where Native Americans were straight up forcefully relocated and Picard followed that command (though conflicted) while chewing Wesley put for defying him. Yet, he is happy to save the ehitest bunch of people due to a chick he wants to bone.
Nuclear Wessels > V'Ger
I am ambivalent towards The Motion Picture, I don't love it, but at least it has some interesting ideas, despite the weird execution. Plus it has the best piece of music from any of the films
I am ambivalent towards The Motion Picture, I don't love it, but at least it has some interesting ideas, despite the weird execution. Plus it has the best piece of music from any of the films
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
TMP certainly is more Star Trek than anything we have seen from Abrams, but it also is really boring with the absurd amount of time it takes showing the damn ship instead of progressing the story. If TMP was a shorter movie, or an episode, then it would be fine, but at the lenght it has, it's a drag.
but we already got a superior non-action trek film
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I actually kind of detest this movie. The main "antagonist" is some mysterious thing that nobody ever heard about before, that shows up out of nowhere, gets all the way through Federation space without anyone notifying Starfleet (nobody noticed that every station and ship on a certain path went dark?), and it's somehow only set to respond to Earth whales. Come on. If this shit happened in one of the JJ movies people would rip it apart. And ultimately nothing is really accomplished in this movie! It's all one big event that does nothing for the Trek universe outside of putting Kirk back in the Enterprise.
Bones walking through a 20th century hospital is pure gold, though
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Yoshi
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It's also incredibly funny.
but we already got a superior non-action trek film
The best. The silly TOS episodes were always my favorite. The Voyage Home was one of those on the big screen and each crew member were able to have their moment instead of being the Kirk/Spock show.
H2intensity
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Story wise, i think its as awful as Into the Darkness..2009 is better. Action wise this is the best one out of the three movies.
Undiscoverd Country is still the best Star Trek movie to me because it has a great balance between story and action. That's why i'm no longer care about Star Trek movie after First Contact because its too much action and its getting worse since JJ took the franchise.
My man.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
it's cliche but at least it's serviceable at worst
when I meant by some elements of the tv series, the way how they explore the planet pretty much reminded me of some of their old shit, like how they went to that planet where some evil guy is making the kids do evil things
it's a walking EMP that disables any ship within its vicinity
also some of the holes are easily ignored due to how the movie does its purpose with flying colors
I still put Wrath of Khan at #1 but I won't argue against anyone who says Undiscovered Country is the best. Both movies are A+
CloudyTuba
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Got free tickets to a trilogy marathon for last night. Saw all three in a row.
New one was cheesy and the characters constantly acted out for the sake of the audience. That is, their actions didn't feel like they were coming from a natural place. At times they were even plainly out of character for the sake of a gag. The villain never connected for me, not enough context or backstory for me to ever care about him and he doesn't even appear in much of the movie.
Watching them back to back to back, the effects of the newest one didn't seem as polished either. And there was a lot of stuff that was CGI that shouldnt have been. Overused.
And the way the heroes defeat a certain group of villains, I was actually embarrassed for the movie in a similar way to how you feel watching a small child trip over his own shoelaces and fall on his face. Oh, you poor thing...
That's not to say it is without merit. It certainly has its moments.
Overall, points for being more original than Into Darkness but I actually enjoyed it less. First continues to be the best of this trilogy by far.
New one was cheesy and the characters constantly acted out for the sake of the audience. That is, their actions didn't feel like they were coming from a natural place. At times they were even plainly out of character for the sake of a gag. The villain never connected for me, not enough context or backstory for me to ever care about him and he doesn't even appear in much of the movie.
Watching them back to back to back, the effects of the newest one didn't seem as polished either. And there was a lot of stuff that was CGI that shouldnt have been. Overused.
And the way the heroes defeat a certain group of villains, I was actually embarrassed for the movie in a similar way to how you feel watching a small child trip over his own shoelaces and fall on his face. Oh, you poor thing...
That's not to say it is without merit. It certainly has its moments.
Overall, points for being more original than Into Darkness but I actually enjoyed it less. First continues to be the best of this trilogy by far.
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I love the ship porn in TMP. But that's definitely a personal taste.
Future Foundation
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So Beyond passed the 80 review threshold, which means it'll be getting a shiny new "Certified Fresh" badge soon.
EDIT: And now it is.
EDIT: And now it is.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Just got out of the film and I've got two words.
Not bad.
Not bad.
While Picard's bluster to the admiral in Insurrection is fun, his entire moral argument just doesn't work. The Ba'ku aren't indigenous to the planet, they are such massive dicks that they refuse to share the planet with anyone who has a difference of philosophical opinion (really, the Son'a couldn't just go to another part of the planet? You had to literally kick them off the planet and doom them to die?) and despite their "nonviolence" pleas are perfectly willing for Picard and co. to do their dirty work for them. "How many does it take before it's wrong" is a good line, but yeah, 600 people for the good of the entire galaxy seems a fair trade to me.
M.W.
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The last one was awful. This has to be better.
Tal Shiar Agent
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On my 5 point Trek scale I'd rank Beyond as a 3/5. '09 was also a 3/5. Into Darkness was a 0/5 alongside Final Frontier. TWOK, Voyage Home, First Contact all 4/5s. TMP, SFS, Nemesis all 2/5s. Generations and Insurrection both 1/5s. The only Trek film I give a 5/5 is Undiscovered Country.
brandonh83
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0/5? Jeez. 
M.W.
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Nice. I liked the 09 one quite a bit. Can't wait to see this.
Mr. Pointy
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I saw Beyond yesterday and after mulling on it overnight, I still think it's really good. It's probably my favourite JJ-Trek. 2009 is pretty good, but I do think Beyond just tops it for me.
And it's probably my favourite action-Trek film so far, so that puts it above FC.
I can't really say it's better than TWOK or TUC. I don't quite think it's that good yet, but I do want to see it again.
And it's probably my favourite action-Trek film so far, so that puts it above FC.
I can't really say it's better than TWOK or TUC. I don't quite think it's that good yet, but I do want to see it again.
Just got out. This is probably the best of the new timeline. I'll write more but really fantastic except for the villain who is only decent.
Leagues better. Writing is easily the most solid of all three.
MrCunningham
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Mike Matei from AVGN/ Cinemasacre and his friend Ryan review the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2TmKbzwgE8
They both loved it and called it "The most Trek of the Nu-Trek movies" .
They just sold me on the movie. Such a shame about Anton Yelchin
They both loved it and called it "The most Trek of the Nu-Trek movies" .
They just sold me on the movie. Such a shame about Anton Yelchin
But people love Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, First Contact (to some extent atleast it wasn't action based but had traditional philosophical stuff) and the one with the whales.
TMP was just a boring movie imo, terrible pacing since they spent way too much time to show the special effects making the scenes were extremely long. They tried to pull off a space odyssey but it didn't work.
I enjoyed Star Trek: Into Darkness, Tron: Legacy, as well as
Thor: The Dark World
Not as classic works of cinematography mind you, but as general entertainment. I'm also not really into the lore of any of these franchises, so there's that.
Mr. Pointy
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Double Toasted review is on the site. They all gave it a Matinee.
MrCunningham
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Midnight Screenings Star Trek Beyond Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Camx5kvKhI
Both Brad and Irving enjoyed it.
Both Brad and Irving enjoyed it.
Well... I just got out of it and I did not like it at all.. Seemed like they were setting up some stuff that would be impactful with Spock/Kirk/Uhoora early on but then LOUD NOISES followed by "boy that was fun, fuck that early shit we mentioned and lets do it again next movie!!!"
Rotten Tomatoes score of 89 mislead me
Rotten Tomatoes score of 89 mislead me
Wouldnt be so sure about that
Caught this last night. Some thoughts.
I appreciated how pensive the film was during two segments:
and
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I wish that the villain
It's not quite as undercooked as
thing but I still don't feel like the theme was brought to a satisfying conclusion.
Character scenes were the highlight of the film, by far, Bones was great,
was great,
were great. This element was dearly missed in Into Darkness. I also appreciated the relaxed pace of Beyond compared to Into Darkness.
If I had to sum up my thoughts on the film in a quick point or two, I'd say that it's closer to Star Trek than its immediate predecessor, the villain is underdeveloped, the action is serviceable, but the heart of the film is there, which I can't say about Into Darkness.
I appreciated how pensive the film was during two segments:
Kirk self-evaluating on his birthday
Spock coming to terms with his own mortality (over the course of the film)
I wish that the villain
played up this theme more, especially considering his circumstances as a 200 year old guy or whatever it would've been easy to write his motives to compliment this idea.
the unity vs ... selfishness?
Character scenes were the highlight of the film, by far, Bones was great,
Bones and Kirk at the beginning
Bones and Spock
If I had to sum up my thoughts on the film in a quick point or two, I'd say that it's closer to Star Trek than its immediate predecessor, the villain is underdeveloped, the action is serviceable, but the heart of the film is there, which I can't say about Into Darkness.
Liamario
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While that didn't make me cry, it did hit a nerve.
Succinct Verbosity
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Go watch this film people. Super fun and the closest wer're getting to a Trek episode until the series comes out
Sorta took the wind out of me a little, gotta admit. I had just shown her Green Room a few nights ago, she always liked him a lot.
There's nothing here that sinks to the depths of Khan magic blood, Carol Marcus, or transporting halfway across the galaxy.
Yeah, that's way too harsh, it was worth a watch.0/5? Jeez.
Succinct Verbosity
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It being lower, but still opening well is great in a summer of underperforming flops tbh. It also helps that this movie is a lot better than those flops too.
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