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Star Trek XI Is A F-Ing Prequel

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BojTrek

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God damnit... the next Star Trek film is a fucking prequel... god I hate Star Trek...

I just watched 2 episodes of DS9 and TNG being home sick... I loved them...

I hate prequels, Star Trek is about the future...

Here you go: http://trekweb.com/articles/2005/03/09/422f8a4f0754e.shtml

STAR TREK XI screenwriter Erik Jendresen has spoken out in an interview with SyFy Portal. The BAND OF BROTHERS scribe suggests that the eleventh franchise film -- which he confirmed will involve no existing characters and take place about 160 years before 'Kirk' is born -- may borrow some of the grittiness of that miniseries.

"We're going 160-odd years before Kirk is born. It's an earlier time, and I think it would be really refreshing to feel something in the course of telling this tale, instead of being wowed by special effects, or presenting another crew in jeopardy where, in the end, the captain does something brilliant, and all's right with the world."
 
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android

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At least the two stooges are gone. And after the fan reaction to the Enterprise finale and Jolene Blalock's comments hopefully they will never be allowed near the soundstage.
 
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BojTrek

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ManaByte said:
Uh, it still is the future.
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You know what I mean... we had the past with Kirk (which was the future), next was Picard (which was the future of Kirk) and DS9 and Voyager (were either the same time or a little ahead of Picard)... so the next series should have been 100 years after Picard...

No, they went back in time (in Star Trek time, not our future)... DAMN THEM!
 
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soundwave05

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Oh for fucks sake.

They should bring back Shatner and Nimoy and do Star Trek in a geriatric institute.

Have some running gag where Kirk still manages to get it on with a 20 year old supermodel.
 
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Boogie

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BigJonsson said:
Wasn't 11 Nemesis?
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Nope. Insurrection was 9, and Berman was calling it "9 of 10" in a lame attempt to avoid the even/odd curse.

And then of course, he did break the even/odd curse by making Nemesis, the most craptacular Trek movie of them all.
 
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It was a minor miracle that they revived the franchise with TNG in the first place. It has been a steady downhill stroll from there.

But there is some merit to this new direction ... Star Trek has always seemed a little to "clean" and aloof for me. I would like to see some moral ambiguity and frayed edges.
 
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Boogie

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ToxicAdam said:
It was a minor miracle that they revived the franchise with TNG in the first place. It has been a steady downhill stroll from there.

But there is some merit to this new direction ... Star Trek has always seemed a little to "clean" and aloof for me. I would like to see some moral ambiguity and frayed edges.
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You never watched Deep Space Nine, did you? :p
 
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DrForester

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Forgive my Trek geek-ness......



But wouldnt 160 years before kirk was born be before Warp Flight in First contact.......
 
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Banjo Tango

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android said:
At least the two stooges are gone. And after the fan reaction to the Enterprise finale and Jolene Blalock's comments hopefully they will never be allowed near the soundstage.
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What was the reaction, and what'd Jolene say?

Edit: My resident Trekkie provided me with this link in regards to Blalock.
 
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soundwave05 said:
Oh for fucks sake.

They should bring back Shatner and Nimoy and do Star Trek in a geriatric institute.

Have some running gag where Kirk still manages to get it on with a 20 year old supermodel.
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I want to see Kirk meandering around Enterprise yelling out "Danny Cray!" to passing crewmen. :lol
 
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Rlan

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It's okay; I'm an ex-Marine. I was a trained sniper. Or was I a pilot? I can't remember. Anyway, I'm more of a skeet shooter now, so when I say 'pull,' you're going to open that door.

Denny Crane.
 
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Prospero

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I'm skeptical. But after John Logan's screenplay for Nemesis (which was basically Star Trek II chopped up into pieces and rearranged), there's nowhere to go but up.

One potential good thing about the time period is that the filmmakers will have something of a fresh start--if they don't have to supply character continuity, then the film might stand on its own for those unfamiliar with Star Trek, without being two hours of backstory and fanservice (again, like Nemesis, except that there were so many continuity flaws that it didn't even get those things right).
 
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Boogie said:
You never watched Deep Space Nine, did you? :p
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Like most people, I watched the first few episodes .. was cleary unimpressed, and never watched again.


DS9 owes its entire existence to TNG's success ... regardless of which one you think was better.
 
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COCKLES

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Ummm. So having fucked up Enterprise and made it a holodeck fantasy Paramount are going to fuck us over again with another prequel?
 
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Vlad

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ToxicAdam said:
It was a minor miracle that they revived the franchise with TNG in the first place. It has been a steady downhill stroll from there.

But there is some merit to this new direction ... Star Trek has always seemed a little to "clean" and aloof for me. I would like to see some moral ambiguity and frayed edges.
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It's not Trek, but check out Babylon 5. It's a lot less "clean" feeling than Trek, not to mention being a damn good show.
 
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Boogie

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ToxicAdam said:
Like most people, I watched the first few episodes .. was cleary unimpressed, and never watched again.


DS9 owes its entire existence to TNG's success ... regardless of which one you think was better.
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Well, then don't speak of "too clean" and a lack of frayed edges when you know not what you speak.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
bad special effects and acting aside, the writing has generally been ass since TOS. There are exceptions (especially later into DS9), but too many episodes were 99% quality build up that they couldnt figure out how to solve so they droped in some mad Deus Ex La Machina to finish the story..

The original series was almost allways about some moral decision that the crew faced, or self sacrifice and while there has been some of that in the newer shows, more often than not Jordy *may just be able to reroute the popal matrix in the warp shield to produce a stabalyzing vortex of crap in the flux capacitor* and then the show ends with some melodramatic countdown of how long they have until life support fails.. wow, what writing skill.

It really bugs me, because I really really like Star Trek, but the writing is laughably bad about 80% of the time.. but every now and then you get an episode like the one about the scientist trying to save his planets sun who is supposed to kill himself at 50.. and it makes sifting through the crap episodes worth it.
 
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Manics

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BojTrek said:
I hate prequels, Star Trek is about the future...

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I guess I shouldn't mention that Star Trek XII, takes place 500 years prior to the original series, with Kirk's great, great, great ancestors in the 1600's. :lol
 
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StoOgE

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Manics said:
I guess I shouldn't mention that Star Trek XII, takes place 500 years prior to the original series, with Kirk's great, great, great ancestors in the 1600's. :lol
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actually, I heard the next episode is set in multiple time periods, showing the history of all the Enterprises from that shows intro.. but no dialouge, just 2 hours of the intro music.
 
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DrForester

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I didnt mind DS9's first season to much.

They had some good character building episodes (Like a few episodes where Dr. Bashir goes from the guy everyone wants to kill, to a good character). They also started things that would be used later in the series. Watching the first episode, who woudl have guessed GUl Dukat would be a part of the series until the end.
 
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Manics said:
I guess I shouldn't mention that Star Trek XII, takes place 500 years prior to the original series, with Kirk's great, great, great ancestors in the 1600's. :lol
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Is the screen play written by Neal Stephenson?? ;)
 
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BojTrek said:
God damnit... the next Star Trek film is a fucking prequel... god I hate Star Trek...

I just watched 2 episodes of DS9 and TNG being home sick... I loved them...

I hate prequels, Star Trek is about the future...
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Close - Star Trek is about the future of humanity and even the prequel Trek is about humanities future. Personally I have no idea where they are going to go 100 years beyond the Piccard years.
 
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android

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I don't mind this all that much. The whole future of Star Trek after Voyager seems to be lame assed time travel. They have basically told every story of exploration they could have so I don't mind if the fill in the gaps in the universe, rather than create new ones.
 
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BlackClouds

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This sounds like a Sega thread. The movie could work if they stopped acting safe and start revealing most of the important secrets of Star Trek. There's so much that is not known about that universe, and it's intentionally vague as to minimize conflict with other stories. Time to take the gloves off and give the people what they really want. There's not much more interesting to me than exploring and finding secrets that I'm not privvy to, or are kept from me on purpose.
 
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Lord Error

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It really bugs me, because I really really like Star Trek, but the writing is laughably bad about 80% of the time.. but every now and then you get an episode like the one about the scientist trying to save his planets sun who is supposed to kill himself at 50.. and it makes sifting through the crap episodes worth it.
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What series was that episode part of?
 
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