Boomstompfloppy
Banned
Same..
Is there any reason why ADS seems to be disliked as much? is there some problem with it?
Star Wars Battlefront will not have ironsights
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Same..
Is there any reason why ADS seems to be disliked as much? is there some problem with it?
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Even though I'm not a fan of TPS in the game, it was never tacked on in previous Battlefronts. It was actually integral to classes like the Dark Trooper and the Droideka.
JazFiction
Neo Member
Can someone explain why we celebrate something being taken away or not included?
ADS is triggered on the controller. So if you dont like ADS then don't press that trigger. To take away the option for people who do like it, makes little sense.
Eg. I can run around in Destiny and never use ADS, then choose to play only using it. Its up to me.
Enlighten me to what i'm missing here.
ADS is triggered on the controller. So if you dont like ADS then don't press that trigger. To take away the option for people who do like it, makes little sense.
Eg. I can run around in Destiny and never use ADS, then choose to play only using it. Its up to me.
Enlighten me to what i'm missing here.
Mendax
Member
yeah it got along fine 15 years ago or somesuch. Nowadays a shooter should at least have the option of somewhat realistic aiming and shooting...
exactly, just nostalgia.
it prevents people from making headshots while running and jumping all over the place; like some arcadey gamey faux-shooters of yore. Apparently some people still want that.
PoweredByHentai
Member
You must teach me how to do this.
Using ADS gives the player accuracy bonuses 99% of the time, including in Destiny. You have to ADS to stay competive in MP.
PrintedCrayon
Banned
ADS was never a core part of the franchise (I understand that the originals were conceived in a time before the modern shooter changed the landscape of what FPS's ultimately become) but Battlefront is meant to be a faster paced shooter. ADS tends to slow the action or encourage bad habits such as camping. Third person is a big component of Battlefront and as such, ADS would ultimately be wasted.
GlamFM
Banned
I simply don´t like the dynamic of fire from the hip & jump around shooters.
I never liked Halo, I really like Destiny.
CS never clicked with me, COD4 was fantastic.
In the end it´s about pace. ADS shooters are usually a little slower.
I like that.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
Sounds good to me. Some hope that it'll spice it up, make it a faster moving game. I hate how slow BF4 is.
Nothing more than it being "useless and it slows down the pacing". Apparently people on GAF like rushing guns blazing with movement having little effect on accuracy.
It depends on the shooter tbh. Battlefront was always this crazy fast paced game and I have had no troubles popping people across the map. PC servers are still up, you should give it a whirl.
Besides, who needs ADS when you have that zooooom?
Give me a double jump and I'll make you soar.
Really? Third person gives you more peripheral vision, really helps when playing some classes like the Bothan spy.
the_batman
Banned
even though it'll still have ADS with scopes, this is a step backwards. the third person mode is also unnecessary and will take away from the immersion. it's just bs being put in to appease old fans.
Boomstompfloppy
Banned
Games like cod are very fast paced, and they use it.
I think ultimately they made a decision to please people with rose tinted specs on and in turn eliminated alot of the people newer to gaming.
That can seem like a good thing but a multiplayer game with a small playerbase will fail
That can still be the case though. They can simply up the recoil penalty while moving.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
So you want it to be Battlefield Star Wars, eh?
NumberThree
Member
Great news.
the_batman
Banned
hell yeah, lasers flying by my face PEW PEW, shit blowing up around me while the screen shakes, planes or whatever the fuck they're called flying above, OH YEAH.
well obviously third person view lets you see more, but that's just not as engrossing as first person view.
You are liking something which they do not like, it's a common problem.
Summer Haze
Banned
I'd prefer to have the option to ADS, but that won't stop me from buying and enjoying this game.
Couldn't they just include ADS without any of the usual ADS benefits? Keep the bullet grouping/recoil the same as in hip-fire, and keep the player movement speed the same as when using hip-fire, making ADS a purely aesthetic change. Would that work?
Couldn't they just include ADS without any of the usual ADS benefits? Keep the bullet grouping/recoil the same as in hip-fire, and keep the player movement speed the same as when using hip-fire, making ADS a purely aesthetic change. Would that work?
OrlanisWorks
Banned
I must be playing a different Battlefield 2/3/4. I've played conquest after conquest and it's never been that exciting except on Karkand in BF2 and a couple maps in BC2. I'd be in if it were always like that. But it feels so slow most of the time.
Lack of ADS keeps the pace of gameplay fast and thrilling, at least it will in the levels this game will host.
So third person view is just being put in to please old fans and not because it was for a gameplay reason? Maybe it was a combination of both :y Immersion is great, but if I could have a gameplay advantage by doing 3rd person view sign me up! You can just stick with first person tho, you set.
Wait I forgot that they took out classes for this game.
Good, hip shooters are the best.
third person camera in Battlefront 1/2 were necessary, a lot of the game was rolling out of grenades due to large number of players, bots or else. and it was mostly wide open spaces not filled with chest high walls and artificial cover. It's very fast paced unlike Battlefield, Star Wars game should be like that, fast.
third person camera in Battlefront 1/2 were necessary, a lot of the game was rolling out of grenades due to large number of players, bots or else. and it was mostly wide open spaces not filled with chest high walls and artificial cover. It's very fast paced unlike Battlefield, Star Wars game should be like that, fast.
PrintedCrayon
Banned
Thanks for clearing that up!
I'm happy that DICE are staying true to the series' roots but sad that they might be alienating newer players with a lack of modern sensibilities.
Sounds like you need the CoD4 Star Wars mod!
ebullientprism
Member
Excellent news.
Been playing a fair bit of TitanFall and thats another game that should never had have ironsights. It would be 10x better if it was all accurate hipfire. One of the reasons why I roll with a Shotgun in that game.
Been playing a fair bit of TitanFall and thats another game that should never had have ironsights. It would be 10x better if it was all accurate hipfire. One of the reasons why I roll with a Shotgun in that game.
GlamFM
Banned
Thanks for clearing that up!
I'm happy that DICE are staying true to the series' roots but sad that they might be alienating newer players with a lack of modern sensibilities.
Sounds like you need the CoD4 Star Wars mod!
Never heard of that - never been a PC gamer.
Is that a real thing? Sounds amazing!
You can have no ADS and still a big penalty on shooting while moving. I don't think that will be the case here but there's nothing preventing it from happening.
The silly thing about ADS is often that you only get the bonuses of standing still while in ADS even though you can aim just as well without ADS while standing still.
Diprosalic
Banned
ADS is a devolution for FPS. makes every interesting encounter in to boring drab.
SolidSnakex
Member
This is not fair to say. Any player using ADS would have an advantage over those that weren't because the whole point of ADS is to give additional accuracy. You're going to get mauled in a game with ADS if you're just trying to hip fire. So they have to choose to either allow it or not. It can't be an option. From what I recall ADS hasn't been part of the series, so it was probably an easy decision for them. They aren't trying to make Battlefield Star Wars Edition, they're trying to make a Battlefront game.
mcz117chief
Member
It never felt right either. I never used the TP since I felt I was at a disadvantage.
p.s. Dark trooper in TP ? How is that even possible ? How can you aim your jumps and shotgun better in TP rather than in FP ?
Try staying competitive without using ADS in games that focus on ADS, lol
PrintedCrayon
Banned
Thanks Odysseus, was just about to post this!
Yeah, Glam - It was pretty awesome to be fair. Though I no longer think it is supported. Plus, CoD4 on PC is a wasteland these days I hear.
Might be worth investigating though?
Nostremitus
Member
I hope you see the irony of your comment. People are in a Battlefront thread complaining that Battlefront is going to play Like a Battlefront game.
Only if there is an intentional hip fire penalty, if you have a hip fire reticule int TP what you're just pointing a dot at a target same as in FP ADS. If anything TP is more haxxy with the whole being able to see around corners business.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
Sounds like some poeple really do just want this to be like all other shooters today. /slightsarcasm
Third person was great! It actually helped me a lot when it came to knowing when to roll past grenades and blind fire, and I never had a problem with aiming and rocket jumping. A lot of battlefront players would share that sentiment.
Now everyone must aim like a stormtrooper, see how difficult it really is. Y'all cut them some slack now.
People who are saying ADS was never a part of the franchise, I implore you to have a look at when the last game in the franchise came out. ADS is a natural evolution of the "zoom" and if the game had that then there is absolutely no reason why having ADS would hurt the game now. Unless the game was all about hip firing primarily (like say Halo) ADS makes sense.
Considering that the game can be played in TPS and FPS, having no ADS simply means limiting the FPS gameplay for the sake of nostalgia.
Killzone 2 had ADS which made you more accurate but hip firing was completely viable and even preferable. So it's not always the case.
Considering that the game can be played in TPS and FPS, having no ADS simply means limiting the FPS gameplay for the sake of nostalgia.
Killzone 2 had ADS which made you more accurate but hip firing was completely viable and even preferable. So it's not always the case.
Skyball Paint
Member
I'm all for this, not out of dogmatic worship of old-school mechanics, but the simple fact that using the iron-sights on Star Wars weapons in particular would be awful. Star Wars guns are props built to look cool, not practical, and many Star Wars guns have downright goofy placement of sights and scopes that would be frustrating to actually use.
Case in point
Case in point
I Wanna Be The Guy
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I'm so happy right now. There's hope for this game yet.