Dreams-Visions
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Star Wars Episode VIII Production Thread (Principal Photography Complete)
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this guy is just the best.
torre_avenue
Banned
I guess he found the deltoids he was looking for.
brandonh83
Banned
Kylo will die in IX. There won't necessarily be a major death in VIII. There wasn't in V. I don't see Finn dying. He already got sliced up his back and put into a coma which is pretty grim on its own. Sure, anything is possible, but I don't see Rey or Finn dying.
DarkJediKnight
Member
I really hope in the future, they take this bit out of EP3. It made no sense.
The transition from "WHAT HAVE I DONE" to Let me go to the Jedi Temple and kill kids was completely unbelievable - even more so if you watched the Clone Wars.
Anakin is the poster-boy for the helpless and children as he demonstrates in Clone Wars. I am not buying that in order to save his wife, he would murder countless children.
well, maybe this time he wont job so hard, while he was by far the most likeable and relate-able of the leads, I am still irked by the way his character was handled throughout the production cycle
Rey is going nowhere and Kylo is her opposite end, they are intertwined at this point.
Finn is purely at the mercy of story telling, in many ways hes the most flexible of characters BUT his arc will inform the arcs of the others, he is the most important secondary character, I dont know who else could die that would have the same weight, I mean perhaps Luke.
Also I am sure they are going to take this film to new places, ground works done, show us New Star Wars.
Duane Cunningham
Member
brandonh83
Banned
They're intertwined at this point but that won't ultimately prevent his death, I mean that's the point as hero and villain, as Harry and Voldemort. I agree that Finn is the most expendable between them obviously, but I just feel he won't be killed off. I have nothing to go on but that feeling so I can't or won't argue it as that'd just be silly.
edit: totally think Luke will bite it.
Finn & Rey probably won't die, not based on much but :
I think that's more what the anthology films are for, for the trilogies I see them echoing/updating classic Lucasfilm beats. But I suppose it's not exactly binary
The rewrite is going to make the new roles smaller and Finn and Rey’s parts bigger.
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/01/star-wars-episode-viii-production-delayed/
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/01/star-wars-episode-viii-production-delayed/
I think that's more what the anthology films are for, for the trilogies I see them echoing/updating classic Lucasfilm beats. But I suppose it's not exactly binary
I think Poe is more at risk than either Rey or Finn.
I'm almost sure Poe is gonna get whacked in the next film's climax.
You could probably form the same argument of Han Solo after ANH, yet his friendship with Luke and the other main characters drove the plot in the beginning of Jedi.
I don't think you need another death for this film to be impactful. Like others have said, no one important died in V, yet it's the darkest and carries the most emotional weight of all the films, with the exception of Jedi's finale.
brandonh83
Banned
He is "the most daring pilot in the Resistance" after all and was originally killed off in the script before a big change.
Poe: "Buddy...that's..."
Finn: "What is it?"
Poe: "...that's..."
Finn: "Yeah?"
Poe: "...that's my coat. Looks good on you."
*dies*
I had a dream that the opening of episode 8 was Finn being hunted down by Phasma on the same planet that opens up Clones, where they race around and end up in the bar, I loved the neopunk look of the streets.
Need more of this stuff, its almost Blade Runner
Coruscant.
Interfectum
Member
For Finn to go beast mode in Episode 9.
brandonh83
Banned
He's awesome. I can see him dying in a big space battle in Episode IX, sacrificing himself to blow up something huge or something like that. Cliche as hell but likely.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
The Knights of Ren are the characters I'm looking forward to seeing the most. Hopefully they each have their individual personalities and stuff. They need to be interesting yet they shouldn't overwhelm the heroes (aren't there like 7 different Knights of Ren? that's a lot).
one can hope
brandonh83
Banned
I'm very much looking forward to seeing if he has any mechanical modifications. I also kinda wonder if him being comic relief in Episode VII that, after his injuries, that he's much more stoic and badass in VIII. I mean with these guys like Rian Johnson telling the story there could be some seriously wild developments. Mecha-FN2187
I can see him flying his X-Wing into a ship/weak point/important structure to sacrifice himself for the resistance/Rey/Finn. I'd be OK with that so long has he gets a larger focus in this film and it happens in 9.
EDIT: beaten. Cliche but not a bad idea if done originally.
Think of the differences between Luke in ANH and ROTJ. I can get behind this idea.
Grover Cleveland
Member
brandonh83
Banned
I had a dream that the opening of episode 8 was Finn being hunted down by Phasma on the same planet that opens up Clones, where they race around and end up in the bar, I loved the neopunk look of the streets.
Same, I loved seeing that in Episode II, it had such a great atmosphere. I liked the settings fine in VII, but they could do to getting back to more artistically vibrant and out of this world settings like Lucas had in the prequels.
I can agree with this. They need to be shooting for more scenes like Yoda and Luke training with Obi-Wan in ANH.
More mythology and memorable quotes/insights please.
If Ep. 8 mixes groundbreaking cinematography with emotionally charged, multi-layered scenes or moments, it will have a chance at surpassing the brilliance of the OT.
There were tastes of this in EP7; now I want the full flavor.
WadiumArcadium
Member
That's like giving all the dwarves personalities in the Hobbit. It won't work. By the looks of the flashback, they've given them quite distinctive looks and weapons, that'll probably have to do. There may be a few that feature more, like Del Toro if he is a Knight of Ren, but I can't see their roles being that big. I expect a few will be wiped out pretty quickly by Luke.
Too bad it got blown up.
That wasn't Coruscant. It was Hosnian Prime.
Vader stood by when Tarkin fired a laser killing billions of people (including, presumably, children).
But Anakin killing children is where he became irredeemable?
I... kind of thought that scene fell flat, honestly. So did a few others in my theater, because I heard some uncomfortable chuckles.
Right, and I think the script shouldn't drift too far from the main characters. We need focused development, not a bunch more new faces who could potentially clutter the overarching plot or overstuff the film.
Anakin killing kids was only weird within Episode III alone due to his weird as hell characterization in that short timespan, but yeah, I never got "ruined the redemption" complaints.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's not gonna happen, Ant. You know this.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I guess you're right. And their weapons are quite badass and diverse, yeah.
I feel like TFA did this well given it's broader charter of a reboot. My hope is the ending duels were a sign of things to come, both going in new directions visually and with the characters, and while capturing what made the OT work.
On a semi-relate note, Abrams has hinted that the trilogy will veer away from following the OT's structure in subsequent installments, in an interview after TFA came out. He wanted to set up a new set of characters atop the mythology of the OT, and then later films take things in a new direction. So my hope is the story of VIII and IX are far less familiar and predictable than TFA.
Where they could take Rey, Finn, Ren, Poe and Maz is really wide open.
Lord of Castamere
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I think it's more likely that Chewy goes out in a "scrafice myself and the Falcon " trope. Hell you can throw Poe in too. Like they have to ram the core of Death Star 4.0 when they run out of missles in 9. I don't want it, but I could see it.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
Man this is going to be a very difficult wait until December 2017. Still bummed they pushed it out of the summer.
If we get something from him similar to that scene in Sicario, it'd be pretty sweet.
brandonh83
Banned
Anakin wasn't redeemed for all the shit he's done, but the dark side clearly warps your mind. Luke, Obi-Wan, Yoda, etc. know this and knew Anakin wasn't completely acting on his own accord, Palpatine had fucked with him and when he made some bad steps it was like the dark side used it as an entry point which led to him doing some heinous shit. Something I would actually like to know or be cleared up in a future movie is what exactly happens when you go dark side, how much it influences your mind and actions and so on. Obviously with Anakin it was pretty extensive. I would've liked for that to have been touched on in the prequels.
Anyway he wasn't redeemed for say killing children, it's more like as his son came into his life those emotions and memories he had beforehand came flooding back and he slowly came to grips with the light side, and did a good deed in his final moments which was enough to make amends with Luke before he died. It's hardly what I'd call a typical redemption as there's layers to it, but yeah, not a simple matter of just saying "well he killed kids how could anyone be redeemed for that" but you can go on to make better choices and his last choices had a pivotal impact on the galaxy and on a personal level.
It's kind of a make of it what you will scenario. Kylo did shitty things but may see the error of his ways. It won't make up for him murdering people though.
Anyway he wasn't redeemed for say killing children, it's more like as his son came into his life those emotions and memories he had beforehand came flooding back and he slowly came to grips with the light side, and did a good deed in his final moments which was enough to make amends with Luke before he died. It's hardly what I'd call a typical redemption as there's layers to it, but yeah, not a simple matter of just saying "well he killed kids how could anyone be redeemed for that" but you can go on to make better choices and his last choices had a pivotal impact on the galaxy and on a personal level.
It's kind of a make of it what you will scenario. Kylo did shitty things but may see the error of his ways. It won't make up for him murdering people though.
Lifejumper
Member
Will the Knights of Ren have a round table? Would be sweet.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I've always thought this was a presumption on the part of the audience more than it was any sort of actual plan. Fans love to find patterns where there aren't any, and it's always seemed weird to me that the tone of these films (one of which hasn't even been written yet) was going to be determined solely by the arc of the Original Trilogy.
it'd be doubly (or is that triply) redundant to follow that specific path what with Episode 7 already being a remix/mashup of the Original Trilogy entire in one movie.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Ha. I'd love this. They'd probably need a few backups what with Kylo's tantrums.
Okay, that'd actually be pretty awesome.
BrokenFiction
Member
brandonh83
Banned
Do we even know if the Knights will have a presence in VIII? Where were they in VII? Why wasn't Kylo with them? I get that they're in a vision that could either be past or future but where's the solid evidence that they're even going to play a role in the next one?