Baleoce
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Star Wars: Force for Change - A Message from J.J. Abrams
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Already looks better then the prequels. A whole universe being obviously green screen was just too distracting.
Give me puppets and practical effects galore, look at Farscape for instance, Rygel is blatantly a puppet but it doesn't matter you enjoy the character so much because he is 'there'.
Give me puppets and practical effects galore, look at Farscape for instance, Rygel is blatantly a puppet but it doesn't matter you enjoy the character so much because he is 'there'.
JCreasy
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So much better than CGI. There is hope.
YES! 1000 x YES!
DeFiBkIlLeR
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When is JJ going to stop whining about the weather in London...seriously, give it a rest you Californian wimp and man the fuck up.
Sectorseven
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So much hate for a character that will probably be in the background for one scene.
Yes, he controls the head using his massive penis.
MeBecomingI
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That puppet / makeup looks absolutely fantastic!
I'm not against the use of CGI because it will be necessary for something, but I prefer that puppets and practical effects are used whenever possible and if necessary use CG to enhance the practical effect or if it isn't... practical to use them. Seeing puppets makes me very excited and eager to see more. I do not want crap where it is nothing but CG used for everything for the environments, set, people, props, etc.
I'm not against the use of CGI because it will be necessary for something, but I prefer that puppets and practical effects are used whenever possible and if necessary use CG to enhance the practical effect or if it isn't... practical to use them. Seeing puppets makes me very excited and eager to see more. I do not want crap where it is nothing but CG used for everything for the environments, set, people, props, etc.
Bucket Mouse
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Ironically it's the warmest it's been in ages in the UK. Hotter than Athens apparently.
Oh right. My bad, didn't realize you were an expert on alien movement.
They aren't going to use amateur puppeteers for this. The movement you described poorly as "clumpy" is intentional.
Rabbit Lord
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I can't help it, I'm hyped for Star Wars!
Warm Machine
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Looks horrible? What?? It looks awesome. That little fucker made me smile.
Maybe you guys would rather have an update like this.
Here we are filming star wars!
They were going down the wrong road! Should have done this instead!
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
#TEAMBLUE
They were going down the wrong road! Should have done this instead!
I would be so incredibly stoked if matte paintings showed up in the new movie.
Partial Gamification
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Here's hoping UNICEF gets more out of this marketing campaign than the franchise does.
Don't mind the universe being stripped before its reworked into another mass-appeal hollywood product, its for charity: A Force for Change!
Good on the humanitarian front, time will tell how the movies turn out.
Don't mind the universe being stripped before its reworked into another mass-appeal hollywood product, its for charity: A Force for Change!
Good on the humanitarian front, time will tell how the movies turn out.
Sapiens
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I would be so incredibly stoked if matte paintings showed up in the new movie.
There is a 100% chance of a matte painting, it's just that they will do it digitally.
Yep. I think the White Walkers in GoT look better than any of the all CG aliens in the prequels, and they use a pretty awesome mix of physical and CG (I think apart from the eyes and condensation effects it's almost all 'real').
so this is real?
first thing I said was: look at that cgi puppet.. -_-
Is it weird that I really love the way puppets move? They aren't as fluid as CGI but it makes them feel more special. If that was CGI he'd probably have a super overly animated neck and lose its charm.
R2 is obviously African American. Not a lick of British in him I'm afraid.Those robo bullies
BlueDogAnchorite
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My thoughts on that video:
Looks great. I loved the puppet. He's looks a little fake, but I hope they combine practical with CGI. But what sold me on the puppet is the the thing he was carrying. Overall, I don't think CGI is bad, I think that it should be used in combination with practical.
Looks great. I loved the puppet. He's looks a little fake, but I hope they combine practical with CGI. But what sold me on the puppet is the the thing he was carrying. Overall, I don't think CGI is bad, I think that it should be used in combination with practical.
XiaNaphryz
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I would be so incredibly stoked if matte paintings showed up in the new movie.
Films use matte paintings all the time still, they're just digital now. Digital mattes have been a thing for almost 30 years.
Takes a helluva good touch to get a CGI character to light right and establish convincing presence, I think they did well with characters like Gollum and Davy Jones... not so great with PT characters. I imagine having a lot more of them and tighter time constraints didn't help.
So much better than CGI. There is hope.
Hmm is there a glimpse at a trooper hidden in there?
There is a man with what seems like a shouldered rifle and a rebel like cap walking through the set from left to right. Almost looks like military. Protecting the set? Or just set worker?
bengraven
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I would be so incredibly stoked if matte paintings showed up in the new movie.
I would give blood to vampire Lucas to make this happen.
BlueDogAnchorite
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I agree with you.
BlueDogAnchorite
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Which is what I hope they do. I loved Where The Wild Things Are. It was mostly due to how they did the puppets.
ultrazilla
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I love the little guys in the cage just rocking their heads back and forth! hahaha
BlueDogAnchorite
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People tend to forget these things, and tend to bash the Prequels for everything, even when the things they are spouting as facts aren't even correct.
Warm Machine
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BlueDogAnchorite
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I agree, it happened with the Prequels. It also happened with The Hobbit trilogy.
Spoiler:.the puppet is CGI
Could you imagine the crow fest?
This is true. Still helps to have a lot of time to tweak a single character until it looks right, as opposed to a menagerie.
I would be so incredibly stoked if matte paintings showed up in the new movie.
Matte Painting are mostly done digitally these days, and it allows for better realism and more interactive elements.
Still not opening up to the hype btw...
I still remember the press release/interviews by Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy during the Indy 4 production. They reached out the the "fans" and promised to use oldschool vfx and then the movie opened with a CG meerkat, continued with CG fridges, CG alien ships CG chase scenes and culminated with CG monkey vine swinging.
Didn't even get the filmstock look right. Everything had a weird glow on it like Kaminsky just said FUCK IT.
I still remember the press release/interviews by Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy during the Indy 4 production. They reached out the the "fans" and promised to use oldschool vfx and then the movie opened with a CG meerkat, continued with CG fridges, CG alien ships CG chase scenes and culminated with CG monkey vine swinging.
Didn't even get the filmstock look right. Everything had a weird glow on it like Kaminsky just said FUCK IT.
Warm Machine
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I watched Phantom Menace last night to celebrate the 15 years milestone for myself. The battle droids are almost always perfectly composited into the sequences. It has been easier to do steel and plastic than flesh and blood since the mid 90s.
It's also easier when you still have like a 80% physical set where you can place your silver ball in, take a HDR sphere image and then use the accurate on set lighting to light your CG creatures.
On Ep2 and Ep3 that opportunity got less and less.
BlueDogAnchorite
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Like how Lord of the Rings had some racist elements?
Digital-Hero
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Bitter, but I can't blame you.
Nevertheless, I will eat 3 pairs of my shoes if Ep 7 ends up worse than the prequels. I don't see it happening.
Are you a technophobe?
To the contrary. My job is in CG.
But if you promise to go oldschool in a message directly to the audience of the original trilogy and then the very first frame of the movie is a CG animal...
The whole movie just had the same fake sheen and shine as ROTS. Just too much compositing and trying to get away with tinkering.
For a movie that tries to be a successor to RAIDERS that is a sacrileg imo.
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