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[raindoc]

raindoc - even though he hasn't been contributing a lot, he's pinging me as town.

I told you earlier, I'm moving and finishing uni. And I'm frustrated by this game. Our armorer has a weak moment on day 1 and you guys lynch him despite me pleading again and again that there's no need to rush it and stochastics work against us. Then on Day 2 our goddamn investigator decides to troll us. Honestly, for a moment I was thinking about getting out of here.

Then I remembered that Blarg's dead.

So:

The counterpoint to that is that we've only had 1 extra Night kill so far, and I'm fairly certain that was LoC.

Wrong. So far there's been 3 kills during night phase, using 3 different MOs:

1) Vibroblade

Lord of Castamere is lying face first in the rough and coarse Tatooine sand with a vibroblade lodged between his shoulder blades.

2) Blaster

 Swamped lay flat on their back with a single blaster wound to the chest. 

3) Venom

 Still lying on the floor of their shelter, Terrabyte20xx, the Ordinary Rebel is undeniably dead. A large bite is visible on their neck, while the Kouhun which had administered that bite is gripped firmly in the victim's dead hand, crushed during the spasms caused by its venom. 

Assuming this is all and it was LoC that killed swamped using the blaster, we still have TWO factions killing during the night. That comes hardly as a surprise and usually it's a SK that fights both Mafia and Town - a neutral role. You're a veteran - I find it odd that you not only missed that, but even pointed out the opposite.
Another interesting thing to note is that despite the different MOs indicating that there are at least 2 parties still working against us, so far there has been only one kill per night. 
That means that one of the two parties did not engage on both nights, or that they hit someone immune who isn't telling. This sits well with Setre's account of Palmer not doing anything during Night 1, during Night 2 Setre didn't watch him.

I'm willing to bet that Palmer_v1 is the SK/Assassin. And despite earlier fuck-ups we're still in a position where we don't need your vote and can lynch you. 
Your pets, however, could be useful.

I'm proposing that we propose a deal to Palmer_v1 the SK/assassin: he kills only when we order him to and who we order him to (via voting), in exchange we'll let him live.

 

[Palmer_v1]

I'm not sure why these are mutually exclusive. Mafia only need to make up 50% of the game to win, some rebels will still be alive.

The reason it ends is that mathematically, nothing can stop the Mafia from murdered the rest of the players at will at that point. For all intents and purposes, only the mafia survive at that point.

 

[johnnyquicknives]

I'm not sure why these are mutually exclusive. Mafia only need to make up 50% of the game to win, some rebels will still be alive.

I think the 50% is just a speed thing. The idea is that from that point the mafia would win every vote so theres no point in letting it play out, we can just assume everyone is dead or detained.

I agree with @MattAttack that, from what he has allowed us to know, Palmers role sounds pretty solidly town aligned.

Palmer does your role specify that the player you are to protect is a Rebel or does it just have a name?

 

[Palmer_v1]

Not according to Palmer. If the town loses, Palmer loses as well.

I'll PM MattyG to clarify. I guess it's possible for the game to end with my person still alive, but I would assume any loss for them is a loss for me.

I told you earlier, I'm moving and finishing uni. And I'm frustrated by this game. Our armorer has a weak moment on day 1 and you guys lynch him despite me pleading again and again that there's no need to rush it and stochastics work against us. Then on Day 2 our goddamn investigator decides to troll us. Honestly, for a moment I was thinking about getting out of here.

Then I remembered that Blarg's dead.

So:


Wrong. So far there's been 3 kills during night phase, using 3 different MOs:

1) Vibroblade


2) Blaster


3) Venom


Assuming this is all and it was LoC that killed swamped using the blaster, we still have TWO factions killing during the night. That comes hardly as a surprise and usually it's a SK that fights both Mafia and Town - a neutral role. You're a veteran - I find it odd that you not only missed that, but even pointed out the opposite.
Another interesting thing to note is that despite the different MOs indicating that there are at least 2 parties still working against us, so far there has been only one kill per night. 
That means that one of the two parties did not engage on both nights, or that they hit someone immune who isn't telling. This sits well with Setre's account of Palmer not doing anything during Night 1, during Night 2 Setre didn't watch him.

I'm willing to bet that Palmer_v1 is the SK/Assassin. And despite earlier fuck-ups we're still in a position where we don't need your vote and can lynch you. 
Your pets, however, could be useful.

I'm proposing that we propose a deal to Palmer_v1 the SK/assassin: he kills only when we order him to and who we order him to (via voting), in exchange we'll let him live.

Again, the main counterpoint to this is that I did not target anyone N1, as confirmed by Setre. Either Setre is lying, I can hide my night actions, or you're wrong.

Also, in the first mafia game, we were told not to read into the fluff of the killings. I'm not certain if MattyG is holding to that or not. I'll PM him about that as well, and get him to post here specifically about that if possible.

 

[redhood56]

First of all sorry for not being very active today, I will post much more tomorrow. Now about Palmer, his role sounds like a plus for the town so we should not detain him. I also have a strong feeling that Quantum is a rebel especially because we can't lose another power role like blare.

 

[johnnyquicknives]

Palmer already covered what I was going to say about methods of death being pure flavour text.

Another interesting thing to note is that despite the different MOs indicating that there are at least 2 parties still working against us, so far there has been only one kill per night. 
That means that one of the two parties did not engage on both nights, or that they hit someone immune who isn't telling. This sits well with Setre's account of Palmer not doing anything during Night 1, during Night 2 Setre didn't watch him.

Unless the player had lives for some reason (like a shield) they probably wouldn't even know they were immune. If they do have a shield that is broken, its a pretty silly move to advertise that.

 

[CzarTim]

@Palmer I agree quoting role pms verbatim is unfair, I think the title is okay though.

Anyway, I think we should keep Palmer alive for now unless we get two nks again.

We have 18 players left

1-2 neutral depending on if Palmer has a mirror.

3-5 mafia left. Honestly 6 mafia in a 23 player game would be pretty insane. I'm guessing 5 total based on the setup, so 4 alive.

11 - 14 rebels depending on the above.

So if we stick with 1 nk that's 4 to 6 mislynches left unless my math sucks. 3 to 4 if last night was a fluke and there are 2 nks

 

[raindoc]

I'll PM MattyG to clarify. I guess it's possible for the game to end with my person still alive, but I would assume any loss for them is a loss for me.



Again, the main counterpoint to this is that I did not target anyone N1, as confirmed by Setre. Either Setre is lying, I can hide my night actions, or you're wrong.

Keep digging.
From the post you quoted:

Another interesting thing to note is that despite the different MOs indicating that there are at least 2 parties still working against us, so far there has been only one kill per night. 
That means that one of the two parties did not engage on both nights, or that they hit someone immune who isn't telling. This sits well with Setre's account of Palmer not doing anything during Night 1, during Night 2 Setre didn't watch him.

 

[raindoc]

Palmer already covered what I was going to say about methods of death being pure flavour text.

Confirmation? That would be BS.

 

[TheWorthyEdge]

Why can't I post here...

 

[TheWorthyEdge]

What the fuq. Couple mins ago it was saying that I couldn't reach GAF. What I was trying to day to Oceanic Air:


I said that because he hinted at something having to do with a Cop. Looking back at his posts right now. Blarg was the cop the whole time trying to tell us without explicitly stating so. He must've found out someone who was an undercover imperial agent and therefore got the role PM as a result of investigating.

 

[CzarTim]

Even if blarg had full claimed no one would have believed him.

@raindoc death stuff is just flavor. If you are suggesting there are 2 alternating sks... I mean maybe? Occam's razor though.

 

[johnnyquicknives]

@Palmer I agree quoting role pms verbatim is unfair, I think the title is okay though.

Again we're getting way too meta-gamey here but I side with Palmer on this. I don't know how much Star Wars knowledge he has but lying is part of the game and if he is lying then forcing him to make something up that could be revealed due to a lack of knowledge of the themes source material rather than something you do in the game seems unfair.

Confirmation? That would be BS.

I don't know what you mean with that. All I meant was I was about to say that I'm pretty sure the MO's are purely flavour, not to be analysed, but Palmer posted the same thing when I was writing it. We'll need to wait on Matty to confirm to know for sure though.

 

[CzarTim]

I've never seen games where asking for role titles is considered unfair. I have seen games where the mods issue fake claims to counter it though.

 

[CzarTim]

Though I agree the vanilla town role pm should be in the OP.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Again we're getting way too meta-gamey here but I side with Palmer on this. I don't know how much Star Wars knowledge he has but lying is part of the game and if he is lying then forcing him to make something up that could be revealed due to a lack of knowledge of the themes source material rather than something you do in the game seems unfair.



I don't know what you mean with that. All I meant was I was about to say that I'm pretty sure the MO's are purely flavour, not to be analysed, but Palmer posted the same thing when I was writing it. We'll need to wait on Matty to confirm to know for sure though.

To be honest, I know Star Wars plenty well enough to drop a fake role PM on a dime. It just seems like bad form to make it appear like you're copy pasting something for legitimacy. The game is supposed to be fun. I don't want the theme, or lack of mafia experience, to drive anyone away. See: Exmachina's mini-meltdown.

Keep digging.
From the post you quoted:

I was defending Night 1. There were two deaths on a night i showed no activity. Lay those on someone else's doorstep.

Night 2, it's entirely possible I was responsible for TB's death, as well as every single other person in this game except for eJawa, Setre, and the Combat Buddies. Assuming we trust all of them, that is.

So be very clear on what Night you're accusing me of doing things. Unless something new comes to light about Setre, there is zero reason to cast aspersions on me about N1. The logical sequence is that Hutts killed LoC, who killed Swamped. Is there a chance something else happened? Sure, but it ain't got shit to do with me.

Since this is overall game rules related, this is what I sent to MattyG:

Can you confirm in the actual thread whether or not the kill fluff matters?

I was assuming it's the same as Crab's game, where it's irrelevant.

I'll send it to karkador and crab as well, to see if either of them can answer in his stead.

 

[OceanicAir]

OceanicAir - mostly just the same reasons others have stated. Lack of activity and when he does post it has always seemed a bit 'camoflagey'. That said I think he's improved a bit today, but improving after people start to call you out is a bit suspicious itself.

Well not posting after being called out is even more suspicious in my opinion (although the most suspicious would to post more until suspicion leaves and then dropping your post count). Naturally people will post more if they are accused, although what happens after is more important imo.

Assuming you're telling the truth, Palmer, your role sounds really interesting- if not a little strange. Do any frequent Mafia players if there's an equivalent (or similar) neutral role commonly used in other games? This is getting perhaps getting a little too meta, but I think a neutral role that can only win when Town wins is barely even worth being called neutral- it's pretty much a Town role (If I'm missing something here, please let me know). If CzarTim's above argument holds water, then obviously this becomes a moot point, but Palmer pretty solidly states that he can't win if the Rebels lose.

I would echo CzarTim's request to see some of the flavor text for your role at some point- I'm very curious.

I am fairly certain that Palmer has some sort of night role if everything he is saying is truthful. It would be incredibly hard to protect anybody if he didn't have some blocking mechanism because otherwise he seems like an extremely crippled town player.

I told you earlier, I'm moving and finishing uni. And I'm frustrated by this game. Our armorer has a weak moment on day 1 and you guys lynch him despite me pleading again and again that there's no need to rush it and stochastics work against us. Then on Day 2 our goddamn investigator decides to troll us. Honestly, for a moment I was thinking about getting out of here.

Then I remembered that Blarg's dead.

So:


Wrong. So far there's been 3 kills during night phase, using 3 different MOs:

1) Vibroblade


2) Blaster


3) Venom


Assuming this is all and it was LoC that killed swamped using the blaster, we still have TWO factions killing during the night. That comes hardly as a surprise and usually it's a SK that fights both Mafia and Town - a neutral role. You're a veteran - I find it odd that you not only missed that, but even pointed out the opposite.
Another interesting thing to note is that despite the different MOs indicating that there are at least 2 parties still working against us, so far there has been only one kill per night. 
That means that one of the two parties did not engage on both nights, or that they hit someone immune who isn't telling. This sits well with Setre's account of Palmer not doing anything during Night 1, during Night 2 Setre didn't watch him.

I'm willing to bet that Palmer_v1 is the SK/Assassin. And despite earlier fuck-ups we're still in a position where we don't need your vote and can lynch you. 
Your pets, however, could be useful.

I'm proposing that we propose a deal to Palmer_v1 the SK/assassin: he kills only when we order him to and who we order him to (via voting), in exchange we'll let him live.

You are making the assumption that the flavor text means anything.

 

[Palmer_v1]

This doesn't specifically apply to this game(yet), but here's Crab's rule from the previous game:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147083546&postcount=241

The flavour text is irrelevant, it exists only to spice things up and will reveal no information other than what game mechanics already reveal. Other people may have been or may not have been targeted tonight, but no-one will be able tell unless they have a specific mechanical reason to.

 

[raindoc]

I'll try to make it more clear: two parties, A & B. A (vibroblade) killed on Night 1 and was inactive/incapacitated/hit immune on Night 2.
B (venom) killed on Night 2, but was inactive etc. on Night 1.


Vibroblades are what one expects from mobsters in the SW universe, whereas the method employed by B is a copy of a method employed by assassins in Episode 2. Assassin = SK = neutral. He killed on Night 2, but not on Night 1.

You are neutral, you described your role, including winning conditions, yet you refuse to tell us the role's name.
You have no alibi for N2, but make a big deal about your alibi for N1, although noone accuses you of doing anything then.

You're the assassin.

Vote: Palmer_v1

I will unvote if you agree to the terms I mentioned earlier.

 

[MattyG]

Palmer is correct in his last post. None of what I write in the "story" of the death posts means anything, it's just to make it more interesting.

 

[OceanicAir]

I was defending Night 1. There were two deaths on a night i showed no activity. Lay those on someone else's doorstep.

How active was your defending? Shouldn't it have come up on Setre's observations?

 

[OceanicAir]

Wait I think I understand what you mean by defend. Defending yourself on your actions I think. But I still think you do have a night action though.

 

[CzarTim]

This got buried:

Palmer, you say blarg was lying about his message. Does that mean Setre is lying too?

Setre's message (paraphrased, I'm presuming given the character limit):

Blarg wasn't the person they wanted to represent them. Pay attention to who gets these messages. They have a 20 word limite. Lastly in supposed to tell you all this.

Blargs message:

I will share what I know on some nights. Tell the others.

Thoughts on this? I currently think it's main hutt crew trying to talk to the IA given they contacted 2 likely choices for IA each night. No idea why they'd be vague otherwise.

 

[raindoc]

This doesn't specifically apply to this game(yet), but here's Crab's rule from the previous game:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147083546&postcount=241

that's about anything but kills. doctor heals and blocked attacks are not mentioned. that's what that says.

 

[raindoc]

Palmer is correct in his last post. None of what I write in the "story" of the death posts means anything, it's just to make it more interesting.

now that's a real bummer. guess i'll have to buy some dice tomorrow.

 

[QuantumBro]

Thoughts on this? I currently think it's main hutt crew trying to talk to the IA given they contacted 2 likely choices for IA each night. No idea why they'd be vague otherwise.

I agree with you. There's probably 4 hutt left, one agent, one thief, one messenger, and one role we don't know about.

 

[CzarTim]

Asked Matty about it, and Rymuth is getting replaced tonight.

 

[TheWorthyEdge]

Palmer is an Undercover Imperial Agent. When Blarg used his powers to investigate Palmer he got that Role PM in which he then said he was.

 

[AbsolutBro]

Wait, what? I don't think you finished that last sentence there.

 

[TheWorthyEdge]

*he was the Imperial to show off that he found out one of the Hutts

 

[Zubz]

TRUST:

TheWorthyEdge: An absolute monster. How dare you tease juicy, juicy info in the E3 thread that I may or may not have gathered what it may very well be from our mindlink? Game-wise, he brought up the question of me possibly being a Hutt-aligned Buddy in our private thread meaning he's almost-definitely a Rebel, being curious despite it contradicting his (And my) win condition. That just makes me trust him even more!

Palmer_v1: Interesting to know there's another "Lovers"-esque player here. He's neutral by admission, but assuming he's telling the truth, he's pushing for a Rebel win, too. But hey, if he does die, all we lose is a vote, right? I'll trust him, though.

CzarTim: He's been very helpful to other posters, and doesn't seem malicious in intent. I'll trust him.

Zippedpinhead: I think I trust him.

redhood56: Maybe it's because I'm used to the generic players being "Vanilla X" instead of "Ordinary X," but I trust his claim.

Setre: Sorry for voting for you! I guess Blarg could only trace "Good" and "Evil" characters (Maybe there's a "Regretful Hutt" or a "Corrupt Rebel" that triggers for the other side tied to this, while you can sense activity, just not intent. Oh! And that reminds me...

Unvote: Setre

eJawa: According to Setre, (s)he didn't do anything last night. Assuming Setre's telling the truth, that's a good sign; unless (s)he's a Hutt who's inactive at night, (s)he's Rebel.

AbsolutBro: Lives up to his name! He seems pretty helpful to me, at least.

johnnyquicknives: There's only one "K" in there? That's going to irk me now. But you seem pretty safe to me!

NEUTRAL:

Barrylocke: Haven't seen enough of his posts to get a good read off of him. He hasn't been entirely inactive, but he does only post every once in awhile. I'm assuming he's just busy, though.

OceanicAir: My only thought on OA is that Traube really wants him/her dead. It looks weird, but it has me more suspicious of Traube. But yeah. (S)He's been more active today, and has done a pretty good job of asking questions.

Matt Attack: I've only registered a few of your posts as being yours in my head; I have absolutely no opinion one way or the other, but at this point, I'm trusting enough people to start thinking someone has to be a Hutt in there. I was already betrayed by Blarg twice! Never again.

SOMEWHAT SUSPICIOUS:

QuantumBro: I still don't completely buy that Armorer #2 story, and the "Thief" thing backing you is info that only you are privy to. Honestly, if I had to vote for anyone, it'd be Quantum.

Makai: (S)He's done a pretty good job of always being there, but never attracting attention. I have no reason to trust or distrust Makai, but if the guess is 4 more Hutts, I might lean more towards Hutt here.

raindoc: Kind of weird that he went off on that hunt over flavor text. It might've just been it looking like a lead, but I'm a bit curious about that.

traube: He seems incredibly driven towards detaining OceanicAir. I mean, he has been inactive, and you made your stance known on inactive players, but we have plenty of other less-active players. Why specifically detain OceanicAir for inactivity? Maybe there's a role-based reason here, but I have no clue.

Rymuth: According to Czar, (s)he's out. Welcome, new player (I'm assuming YesOrNoOrYes?)!

 

[johnnyquicknives]

johnnyquicknives: There's only one "K" in there? That's going to irk me now. But you seem pretty safe to me!

you can direct the ire towards PSN's 15char limit. xbox made me drop the h as well

 

[johnnyquicknives]

and by 15, i clearly mean 16.

 

[Zubz]

you can direct the ire towards PSN's 15char limit. xbox made me drop the h as well

My condolences.

Palmer is an Undercover Imperial Agent. When Blarg used his powers to investigate Palmer he got that Role PM in which he then said he was.

*he was the Imperial to show off that he found out one of the Hutts

I do remember him Blarg being all "Enjoy your last day, Palmer" or something, and I guess he wanted us to have the guns after we declined. Huh. Honestly, I'd bump him down to just plain "Suspicious" now.

I mean, Setre's role didn't mean he was safe, just that he was inactive in the night. He's also announced that he's not Rebel-aligned, and is merely on our side because he had a teammate. Since the Undercover Imperial can only vote during the day and discuss things with one another, maybe the person on his "team" was Swamped?

 

[OceanicAir]

Palmer is an Undercover Imperial Agent. When Blarg used his powers to investigate Palmer he got that Role PM in which he then said he was.

*he was the Imperial to show off that he found out one of the Hutts

Did he specifically say that they were imperial? Because from what I gleaned from Blarg's role PM is that he wasn't a role cop.

 

[Zubz]

Did he specifically say that they were imperial? Because from what I gleaned from Blarg's role PM is that he wasn't a role cop.

He was "Good" vs. "Evil" detecting, though. Again, there's a chance there might be an "Evil" member of our team or a "Good" member of the Hutts', since he detected auras. However, odds are, if someone turns up as "Evil," they're probably a Hutt, or at least a somewhat harmful Rebel.

 

[Matt Attack]

Again we're getting way too meta-gamey here but I side with Palmer on this. I don't know how much Star Wars knowledge he has but lying is part of the game and if he is lying then forcing him to make something up that could be revealed due to a lack of knowledge of the themes source material rather than something you do in the game seems unfair.

After some thinking, I think I get where you guys are coming from with this. I know that, personally speaking, I probably couldn't come up with an entire believable paragraph if I were in a situation that called for it.

Palmer is an Undercover Imperial Agent. When Blarg used his powers to investigate Palmer he got that Role PM in which he then said he was.

Curious. At the very least, I'm definitely suspicious about Palmer at the moment. I'm not saying that what he's claiming about his role is definitely not true, but I just find it all pretty suspicious (although I suppose it makes sense why he might not want to reveal everything about his alleged role).

 

[Palmer_v1]

Did he specifically say that they were imperial? Because from what I gleaned from Blarg's role PM is that he wasn't a role cop.

It said he sensed auras, so he was functionally just a faction cop. Besides, why the fuck would he claim the role that he had just found?

I'm sorry Zubz and TWE, but the argument just doesn't make much sense to me. Can you cite specific examples of Blarg calling me out? As far as I could tell, he was genuinely excited that I was figuring out his plan, and then just kind of begging everyone to keep him alive towards the end. I'm not sure why he didn't just post his N1 report, since he was given plenty of extra time, and I'm pretty certain if it was me, he would have found the time. He might have just wanted us to kill Setre since he was falsely claiming Cop. I know a few of us were suspicious of him at the time.

 

[Palmer_v1]

For the people who said they haven't heard of my kind of protection role before, this is it's most basic version:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Unlyncher

 

[Makai]

For the people who said they haven't heard of my kind of protection role before, this is it's most basic version:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Unlyncher

Why did you say either you dies or Blarg dies on Day 2?

 

[Palmer_v1]

Why did you say either you dies or Blarg dies on Day 2?

Bluffing at that point. I was trying to get Blarg to back down so we could lynch someone else, but he wasn't going to drop the act.

 

[raindoc]

raindoc: Kind of weird that he went off on that hunt over flavor text. It might've just been it looking like a lead, but I'm a bit curious about that.

I've never played a game of Werwolf/Mafia in which we didn't get hints to which faction was responsible for a killing.
Hearing that it isn't so in this game is - even after I slept about it - onehelluva bummer.
This game definitely ain't what I signed up for.

Still not backing down from my vote. I don't trust Palmer and we don't need any neutrals at this point.
QB's claim/story is also suspicious enough to vote for, but the stakes are higher since he claims to be (another) armorer.

 

[raindoc]

Shit. I edited. Was just the "TRUST" from Zuba's list I failed to delete when posting. Sorry guys, I'm not myself before the 2nd cup of coffee.

 

[CzarTim]

I think if you go back and read Palmer's posts from the start, his story has completely lined up with how he has played. He even breadcrumbed the role day one iirc. He can't be a sk if setre is to be believed. He could be the other IA, but eh, I don't really see it. He's been playing pretty pro-town for that.

If blarg had flipped hutt I'd be more willing to detain a 3P today, but we really need to work on finding ourselves a scum.

 

[CzarTim]

Also I feel like the other IA would have wanted to keep blarg alive to have a cover.

 

[raindoc]

I think if you go back and read Palmer's posts from the start, his story has completely lined up with how he has played. He even breadcrumbed the role day one iirc. He can't be a sk if setre is to be believed. He could be the other IA, but eh, I don't really see it. He's been playing pretty pro-town for that.

If blarg had flipped hutt I'd be more willing to detain a 3P today, but we really need to work on finding ourselves a scum.

Why the fuck not? All Setre has is "palmer was inactive on day 1".
That does not rule out a SK or Palmer, since the N1 kill might as well have been a mafia kill, not the SK.

Palmer is neutral. He's describing his role, his winning condition, but still has not given us his role's name.
When I accused him of killing Terror during N2, his defence was obly "but I have an alibi for N1".
Why should I care? Show me an alibi for N2, then I'll shut up.

Even with my MO theory falling apart - does anyone really believe we have no SK and only the Hutts are killing us - the townies with two armorers? you can't be that stupid.

Listen to me. Just once. It would've prevented Armorer #1's death and also TWE's - if our investigator hadn't been a suicidal troll.

 

[CzarTim]

You are suggesting the sk chose not to act on night one, which is insane. There would have been no reason not to act. And Setre is a motion detector, so we would have known if he was role blocked.

 

[raindoc]

You are suggesting the sk chose not to act on night one, which is insane. There would have been no reason not to act. And Setre is a motion detector, so we would have known if he was role blocked.

this whole discussion is living peoof for why it's sometimes best to be inactive.

 

[CzarTim]

You are suggesting Palmer, as the sk, chose not to act on night one, which is insane. There would have been no reason not to act. And Setre is a motion detector, so we would have known if he was role blocked.

quote edit

 

[raindoc]

not everyone plays this game rabid-dog-style.