TheWorthyEdge
Member
Ahh, how we aren't going to get anything out of him?
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Star Wars Mafia |OT| A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy
- Thread starter MattyG
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Ahh, how we aren't going to get anything out of him?
johnnyquicknives
Member
The issue I have with this is that although you and traube voted for her there was never a real reason given, so there wasn't really anything to defend against. If the same had happened to me I wouldn't really know what to say either.
You already admitted your vote was just to stir things up and add pressure. Which is fine with me, we both agreed earlier on that having a real threat is required for real responses. Thats why I like the idea of detaining on day 1. Traube has said he's waiting to confirm something with Matty before disclosing why he voted first.
Earlier on I said I didn't think any of the votes against her had much merit, but going back through the posts this one does stand out to me.
I think it's just how eager she seems to go along with the vote which puts me off a little and, in retrospect, it's also interesting that she wants to see someone defend themselves against a baseless accusation. I'm guessing she might have a slightly different view on that now.
Time remaining in the current day phase:
Current votes
13 votes are needed for a majority descision
Names with astrike voted and then unvoted
No Detain (2)
Palmer_v1
Makai
TheWorthyEdge (2)
CzarTim
Barrylocke
exmachina64
Rymuth
Blargonaut (2)
Blargonaut
eJawa
Rymuth (1)
CzarTim
exmachina64 (1)
Terrabyte20xx
CzarTim (1)
Lord of Castamere
Lord of Castamere (1)
Zubz
swamped (1)
traube
Lord of Castamere
TheWorthyEdge
Zubz (0)
TheWorthyEdge
Palmer_v1 (0)
Terrabyte20xx
Terrabyte20xx (0)
exmachina64
Current votes
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Names with a
No Detain (2)
Palmer_v1
Makai
TheWorthyEdge (2)
Barrylocke
Rymuth
Blargonaut (2)
Blargonaut
eJawa
Rymuth (1)
CzarTim
exmachina64 (1)
Terrabyte20xx
CzarTim (1)
Lord of Castamere
Lord of Castamere (1)
Zubz
swamped (1)
traube
Zubz (0)
Palmer_v1 (0)
Terrabyte20xx (0)
QuantumBro
Banned
I guess this is as good a time as any to check in. I've been following the thread, but have kept quiet since there's not too much to go on day one and other people have been pretty good about being Comrade Questions.
As for who to lynch, no one is really sticking out right now. Most of the current nominees for a lynching are new players who have been acting funny, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now since it's their first time and all. I'd stick to my original plan of lynching the most inactive player, but that would go well for me, haha. For now...
Vote: No Detain
On an unrelated note, wow we're already on page 5. It took the original game 2-3 days to reach that.
As for who to lynch, no one is really sticking out right now. Most of the current nominees for a lynching are new players who have been acting funny, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now since it's their first time and all. I'd stick to my original plan of lynching the most inactive player, but that would go well for me, haha. For now...
Vote: No Detain
On an unrelated note, wow we're already on page 5. It took the original game 2-3 days to reach that.
OceanicAir
Member
Any response yet?
johnnyquicknives
Member
Yeah I just took a look at Animal Crossing Mafia and we've almost passed them in posts already.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Damnit Mattyg, I was making a list too ):
l'm gonna finish my list with blackjack and hookers.
l'm gonna finish my list with blackjack and hookers.
Yes, since Crab told us last game, I can tell you all: there is a jester.@MattyG: Can you comment on the "Jester situation"? Afair crab did tell us that there is no Jester in the game.
Depending on MattyG's response I am leaning towards Blargonaut.
Should he indeed be a Jester, it will at least be over soon.
KIDDING, there isn't.
Damnit johnny, get an avatar.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Yeah. I'm actually quite undecided right now but with suspicions. I think I'll decide to bit near the end but maybe not. All depends on what happens, if anything.
I'm thinking now that voting for Blarg would be pointless. If he is Rebel, I don't think much info will come out of it.
Unvote: Blargonaut
I still don't want to vote based on a random choice, but torn between voting for someone aggressive (may be trying get a rebel out early) or someone indecisive (trying not to draw attention to themselves).
Unvote: Blargonaut
I still don't want to vote based on a random choice, but torn between voting for someone aggressive (may be trying get a rebel out early) or someone indecisive (trying not to draw attention to themselves).
Lord of Castamere
Member
Yeah, bandwagon jumpingis something we need to watch for. Anither post along those lines.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
That's why I find CzarTim, Barrylocke, and exmachina sort of suspicious. Once Czar voted for me, Barrylocke did with the same reasoning and then exmachina with no reasoning. Now they have given some reasoning but because of that instance I have suspicions. Of course this will alarm many because I'm being defensive but it stood out to me.
I voted for you right before going to lunch and was just as surprised as you to find two more votes on you when I got back.
The thing I'll say is if all three of us were mafia, we'd be the worst team in history. All three block voting and then two backing off (for what reason if we were a team?) This is why intent behind posting is so important. You'll have to ask yourself why each of us voted for you, and if doing so was in the town's best interest. I've explained my position a couple of times already.
This is also why we should 100% detain today. These sort of patterns are super useful later on. Go look at the last game, there were a couple of posts by king kitty looking at voting history that cemented an easy win for town.
johnnyquicknives
Member
Haha I know, I was looking through posts pretty much only using avatars and thinking how annoying it must be when I don't have one. "Trustworthy star wars avatar" search here I come.
Blargonaut
Banned
TheWorthyEdge
Member
I will tell you I'm starting to trust you more but the other two, especially machina, are kinda suspicious.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Dat Witcher 3 crash. By the gods.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Unless they're right in the middle, or making us think that they would be at the bottom but actually be at the top. I think that the mafia (hutts) are feeding off of the top posters accusations and suspicions. Still. I'm not holding up.
exmachina64
Banned
I'm beginning to feel like detaining today won't accomplish much.
VOTE: No detain.
For the time being.
How do I convince you of my noble intentions, Worthy?
VOTE: No detain.
For the time being.
How do I convince you of my noble intentions, Worthy?
Lord of Castamere
Member
Here they come one by one. Here's a big fat I told you so.
exmachina64
Banned
What do you mean?
AbsolutBro
Member
Guessing the votes for no detain.
Yep, super disappointing.
Go read the AC thread, most of them admitted not evicting was a mistake!
exmachina64
Banned
As the first day is progressing, I'm becoming more uncertain of voting for any one person. Unlike Worthy, I'm not seeing any one person's actions as suspicious - at least enough to detain.
exmachina64
Banned
We're halfway through the first day. How long does it normally take for a majority consensus to emerge on who to detain?
We aren't detaining because we are 100% sure someone is a Hutt, we're detaining to gather voting patterns which can be used by surviving rebels later in the game. We will almost assuredly detain incorrectly today and several times before this is over.
Pick a person you find suspicious, even if slightly, state your reason and vote. It's what a true rebel would do.
We don't need a full majority, we just need a plurality by the end of the day.
johnnyquicknives
Member
In this kind of situation I imagine the day will run its course and whoever has a plurality at that point will be detained (or no-one will if thats how the vote goes).
To end early we need to hit a 50%+1 (13votes) and everyone is still pretty divided.
Vote: TheWorthyEdge
Posts have been too middle of the pack for my liking, and some of his phrasing about the Neutral roles seemed suspicious as well. Just like some Mafia are hiding at the bottom of the post counts, I think there's at least one in the top 2-3 posters as well.
Posts have been too middle of the pack for my liking, and some of his phrasing about the Neutral roles seemed suspicious as well. Just like some Mafia are hiding at the bottom of the post counts, I think there's at least one in the top 2-3 posters as well.
Oh, and full disclosure, I want this to go to time, and not a majority, because I actually may not be able to post in 3 days if this ended now. I honestly didn't expect No Detain votes so soon.
johnnyquicknives
Member
Any reason why you switched away from No Detain? You seemed pretty set on it up until now.
Mostly what I said above. For timing reasons, I want this to run long, and it needs to be a plurality. I could just unvote, but abstaining is worse than nothing and should get me policy lynched.
I hate to reference the other game, but they do feel like they've stalled out a bit, which is a convincing argument for lynching today.
As for why TWE, there's a few posts in succession that just seemed weird:
Prior to this, he admitted he was at least somewhat experienced in normal Mafia.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164275840&postcount=193
^^but then he asks if the hutts know each other. That's the kinda dumb question I might try to ask if I was fooling people into thinking I was new, clueless, and harmless, when I was actually one of the Hutts.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164281210&postcount=213
^^Nothing special about this post, except...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164282972&postcount=215
He immediately contradicts his very own post. If he's not a Hutt, he could be a Neutral. We don't know how many there are, or how bad they are for us, but i'd rather lynch a neutral than a townie.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Regarding the asking if the hutts knew each other I honestly didn't know whether or not it was different then IRL mafia, but realized that's the most stupid question ever. That's the most dumb question ever, and like you said that would be exactly what a Hutt would say, so...why would I say it? I'm not a Mafia or a neutral. I'm in the rebellion.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
This is strange too. I'm not saying I'm right or even close to being right, but of I was maybe he was like no detain and then saw this and was like "we need to detain him" being a Hutt, so that they could get someone more worthwhile at night, but also dodging a bullet from losing one on DAY 1
Due to my epic quote failure, this is what I tried to say (have no clue why it wasn't included): I don't want you to reveal anything that could be harmful to the Hutts. I feel you have good intentions but I just get a bad feeling after you voted for that one guy, and then after 2 others had voted me uou changed your vote only posting the unvote and the vote, without a reason until later.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Also regarding the last two links to my posts, why would I blatantly and purposely revert to 2 making the suspicions for me being a neutral higher? They were ideas because that, at that time, was what we were throwing out.
johnnyquicknives
Member
Cool, I understood the voting for Worthy (although the neutral player points are interesting, and something I hadn't noticed). I was mostly just intrigued by what had finally swayed you away from no detain as you had mentioned a few times that you were yet to be convinced.
I find it hilarious that the two people who thought it odd that I was thinking of voting for Palmer due to 'bandwagoning' (which, I will remind you, I never did and this was towards the very beginning of the game so I only wanted more info) were at some point bandwagoners (it's a word now!) themselves. At some point you both voted for me because someone else before that had...haha.
Anyway, echoing an earlier post I made, I still think it's prudent to detain someone today. It's impossible to make any firm or even tenuous guesses as to who is who at this point since it's only the first day. It's impossible for anyone to 'slip up' at this stage in the game and impossible to guess if people have power roles. At this point I think I'm ready to go with gut instinct.
Lord of Castamere
Member
So you say... I voted for you to get info as well. I got plenty.
QuantumBro
Banned
You've inspired me...
VOTE: exmachina64
There's an odd vibe I'm getting from your posts. For the first day or so, you tried to get a quick lynch vote going against someone, but as soon as you realized it wasn't going to happen, backed off. Now you've joined the NoLynch bandwagon.
And then there's this post...
1. It reminds me a lot of a post that a mafia member made in the last game.
2. You said that you weren't aware that this game was going to take a while, and it shows in your first couple of actions. Accusing someone of being mafia no less than 4 hours into the game is an action that I would expect a mafia member to make if they thought the game was going to be short.
Right now the only player who I'm 100% sure is village is Terabyte20xx, because I just can't see a mafia member making a move like he did that early in the game.
I'm not 100% certain about him, but I probably trust him more than anyone else as well.
QuantumBro
Banned
He's either a villager or neutral. I can't see him as a mafia member.
Lord of Castamere
Member
With the bandwagon posting and what you siad I agree. There's a few people rubbing me the wrong way right now and he's up there. He's either inexperienced or Hutt.
In any case Czartim has gotten back on my good side for now. He's playing a risky gambit, with the push for organisation, if Hutt.
Unvote: Czartim
Vote: exmachina64
For the record, if you care about my opinion at all, I hadn't gotten any weird vibes about him. I've been wrong about who I decide to lynch before, but none of my good-guy hunches failed me last game.
exmachina64
Banned
You both caught me. I'm Mafia.
UNVOTE: No detain.
VOTE: exmachina64
QuantumBro
Banned
Well that was a bit anticlimactic.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Joking? If the game didn't match expectations you could have backed out. This is kinda a fuck you to teammates on either side, unless you're a plain Rebel I guess, if you're suiciding.
I mean crap you only have 3 votes right now.