I spoke to someone on the dev team and he told me a few days ago that 2011 is still planned. $80m really isn't nearly as bad as most had suggested before as has been mentioned.ElectricBlue187 said:2012 now. God this game is never coming out. Remember just a short while ago they were aiming for Spring 2011
Teknopathetic said:"at least they are trying to do something different AND new with the mmo. and dont forget, this is star wars we are talking about here. ( not that it matters to me)"
It's SWG all over again.
Nirolak said:The amount of content.
If people can beat all the content in your game quickly, they're not going to subscribe.
Vilam said:Just like WoW looks dated amirite? Both games look great for the genre imho, MMOs are all about art direction.
eastmen said:wow is a 2004 game that was able to suck in millions of players before it looked very dated.
Tor is a 2011/12 game that looks like at best a 2008 game t.
Many people forget that with wow you needed $400 video cards and $800 cpus to run the game in dx 9 mode at decent resolutions when it first came out . Now of course you can play it on almost anything but hardware has advanced alot in the last 6 years
"Fortunately for investors, the company expenses R&D spending, meaning that its revenues on sales of the Star Wars MMO DVD will be pure profit"
Mario said:I'm not sure I understand the logic or accuracy of this statement.
Also, the $20m estimate for marketing, manufacturing and distribution seems low.
Just development though. Wait for the marketing dollars to add to this.antonz said:80 million isnt that bad really. Less than I thought
While this is true if they can fit into the bluray launch window they can cooperate on advertising. Have something like here is your chance to relive the greatest Saga ever told and show the blu rays then transition to now its time to live your own Saga and cue The Old Republic.water_wendi said:Just development though. Wait for the marketing dollars to add to this.
Chairman Yang said:The $20M estimated marketing/distribution/manufacturing budget seems a bit low to me.
Nirolak said:
Just think, if this MMO works out how someone will want them to do this model for all of their franchises.Havok said:How many proper Knights of the Old Republic games could have been made for that plus the marketing that it'll need to gain any momentum?
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Well, they started with about 120 people back in 2007, and now they're at about 250 people, which would make them one of the largest (if not the largest) MMO teams around.Jerk said:Yeah, which is why I am guessing that the final costs are going to be pretty damn high.
Any ideas on GW2?
Jerk said:Development only.
Add in the marketing budget...
The game looks cool and all but most ambitious project ever?Snipes424 said:Even with just development, I think it's low. It's literally the most ambitious project I've seen in years if not ever.
SneakyStephan said:How does this game offer anything new btw?
I haven't followed it lately but the footage shown a few months ago looked extremely run of the mill EQ style standard stuff that we've all seen a thousand times.
Talking gameplay not conversations.
With games like vindictus, tera, blade and soul etc all making it to europe and NA before their release I doubt many people will still be willing to replay the old boring mmo formula again.
Street fighter/soul calibur style blocks, counters, grapples and dodges and / or manual aiming are a lot more interesting than auto target auto attack global cooldown spam.
Prot Warriors/Paladins in WotLK and Blood DKs in Cataclysm say hi.antonz said:well on the plus side. Old Republic does not have auto attack and Tanks can actually PVP![]()
C U @ GY!Einbroch said:Prot Warriors/Paladins in WotLK and Blood DKs in Cataclysm say hi.
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BioWare is way ahead of you: http://www.vg247.com/2011/04/11/bioware-mass-effect-mmo-makes-sense/water_wendi said:Just think, if this MMO works out how someone will want them to do this model for all of their franchises.
Well its what every ME fan is always talking about. "I want an MMO! Why a third normal game?!" Same thing with the Kotor MMO. Bioware listens to their fans.Nirolak said:BioWare is way ahead of you: http://www.vg247.com/2011/04/11/bioware-mass-effect-mmo-makes-sense/
Nirolak said:Well, they started with about 120 people back in 2007, and now they're at about 250 people, which would make them one of the largest (if not the largest) MMO teams around.
That game should be finishing up either this year or by Q1 2012 though.
Given the adjustments here relative to previous estimates, I'm guessing somewhere between $40-$80 million, depending on when their staff grew.
I realize that's not a very helpful range, but I think it's the best I can give until we see NCSoft make some more statements.
SWTOR has neither auto attack nor global cooldown.SneakyStephan said:How does this game offer anything new btw?
I haven't followed it lately but the footage shown a few months ago looked extremely run of the mill EQ style standard stuff that we've all seen a thousand times.
Talking gameplay not conversations.
With games like vindictus, tera, blade and soul etc all making it to europe and NA before their release I doubt many people will still be willing to replay the old boring mmo formula again.
Street fighter/soul calibur style blocks, counters, grapples and dodges and / or manual aiming are a lot more interesting than auto target auto attack global cooldown spam.
lockload said:I think its doomed to failure, cant see enough people getting it
Gamasutra said:Speaking at a Lazard Capital Markets Technology & Media Day presentation, which Gamasutra listened in on, EA CFO Eric Brown said the company has "over one million, closer to 1.5 million" people opted-in to be notified of a coming open beta test for the BioWare Austin-created game. "It's a great indicator in the interest level in the franchise," he said.
eastmen said:Many people forget that with wow you needed $400 video cards and $800 cpus to run the game in dx 9 mode at decent resolutions when it first came out .
Maybe he is thinking of EQ2? Even then it would be farfetched.Vilam said:lol are you for real? Get out of here with this blatant misinformation.
Last rumors ive read put Titan in 2013. i doubt very seriously that TOR slips that far.ZombieSupaStar said:even if this mmo doesnt bomb, itll prolly release so close to blizz's new mmo that itll look like the apollo creed ivan drago fight from rocky 4. (and bioware aint russian!)
ZombieSupaStar said:even if this mmo doesnt bomb, itll prolly release so close to blizz's new mmo that itll look like the apollo creed ivan drago fight from rocky 4. (and bioware aint russian!)
I guess it's less than I thoughtNirolak said:Apparently that's estimated at $20 million.
Well, I was pretty close like in the ballpark...This is still only 1/3rd of the $300 million figure [Nintex] keeps trolling with though.
hmm who to believe.element said:I've heard much much more then that from various people. I'm going to trust them.
I think BioWare are still negotiating with EA about that. They just announced that Australia and New Zealand are not included in their game testing plans.Genjikage said:Any word on Australian servers?
Thats another big deal for me, got tired of playing 210+ms in WoW.
legend166 said:What?
I was running WoW for a couple of years on a Radeon 9700 Pro (which was already two years old in 2004) with no problem.