64gigabyteram
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Budgeting incompetence on their end. Plenty of games with great production values are being made that cost less than 100 mil to make
This is also Nintendo here so their games cost less to make than other companies.
Switch 2 costs: $59.99 in 2015 is $80.79 today
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This is also Nintendo here so their games cost less to make than other companies.
TKOFromTokyo
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Yes and no. I agree that fiat currency has lead to sustained inflation which would ebb and flow under commodity pegged currency. I also agree that it is a way to take away the value of our earnings. However, fiat currency has allowed for greater economic growth and output. I say all of these things because that is the reality of the world we live in. Personally, I don’t like it.
Great Auk
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I am not defending Nintendo by any stretch of the imagination, but inflation is not just a blanket percentage you can apply to everything to adjust costs.
Inflation is calculated by taking all sectors of the economy into consideration. If the bulk of the inflation is coming from housing costs and food costs, then products that don't rely on those economic sectors shouldn't see their product rise as much as the inflation index suggests it should.
Are components truly more expensive than they were when the Switch was released so that the Switch 2 should cost more than the Switch 1 even when adjusting for the devaluation of our currency? I don't think so.
Inflation is calculated by taking all sectors of the economy into consideration. If the bulk of the inflation is coming from housing costs and food costs, then products that don't rely on those economic sectors shouldn't see their product rise as much as the inflation index suggests it should.
Are components truly more expensive than they were when the Switch was released so that the Switch 2 should cost more than the Switch 1 even when adjusting for the devaluation of our currency? I don't think so.
TKOFromTokyo
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You’re right, inflation here would be based primarily on labor, components, logistics, and utilities. Labor is up, logistics are up, and components are up. My company, 4x the size of Nintendo, pays Canon significantly more for chips in our products than we did before 2020.
RagnarokIV
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Melon Husk
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Are disposable incomes also up +33%? Yeah...
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NeoIkaruGAF
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Pretty sure the counter arguments in those Arrogant Sony thread sounded exactly like the premise of this very thread, and were scorned exactly in the same way.
I really don’t know what compels people to try to rationalize highly tribalist discussions. Why waste data and logic in blatant “us vs them” arguments?
Setsuna Mudou
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yeah, people did... dozensofus.gif
Nintendo wants to sell similar or higher numbers than they did the switch, this price is their 3ds moment... will be corrected a few months later.
Lokaum D+
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Yep, it ll and the games it ll be close to R$ 600, Nintendo is a luxury brand over here.
Sooner
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GAF be poor.
Prepare for shock when they see this thing sell gangbusters out the gate.
"HOW?? How can people afford to buy something for $450!? What do they have jobs or something?"
Meanwhile, Apple consumers would crack up at this. You know what they call the price of the Switch 2? "Sales tax".
Prepare for shock when they see this thing sell gangbusters out the gate.
"HOW?? How can people afford to buy something for $450!? What do they have jobs or something?"
Meanwhile, Apple consumers would crack up at this. You know what they call the price of the Switch 2? "Sales tax".
kapshin
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Electronics are already priced crazy there?
Gamer_By_Proxy
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Doesn't mean they gotta still make games that look like they're from 2015.
Lokaum D+
Member
It depends on the eletronic, some have a fair price, some are just nonsensical, for example PS5 and Xbox has a "fair" price for their tech ( U$ 600 ), PS5pro is nonsense, its cost almost U$ 1400, Switch 2 ll cost the same as PS5/XBSX over here ( possible a little more since is Nintendo brand ) and Nintendo games ll cost over a U$100.
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Portugeezer
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Gotta keep the sheep working for big corps to drive the economy.
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ReasonBeing
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I live in the Los Angeles area, I kinda think you are making this up.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
The Z Flip 6 is US$1100, so more expensive than the iPhone 16 that costs US$800, right? In Brazil the Z Flip 6 is R$ 7600 while the iPhone 16 is R$ 7800
You can always find better pricing at the local stores, but it's just cheaper and still doesn't make any sense
Still, the prices are crazy most for electronics, but not just electronics. I could discuss more, but would enter politics, so yeah...
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kapshin
Member
Damn so if the converter I found is correct that's like $107 US that is crazy
kapshin
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Not Brazil per say but I worked at a big corporation a lot of co workers from India would come over to work on projects they were always buying phones etc here to take back apparently it's super expensive there too
Lokaum D+
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have in mind that Brazil minimun wage is around U$ 1,10 hour or U$ 250 monthly
I collect VHS tapes
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Want to make this interesting?
I don’t know what you mean by “Los Angeles area”, but I live in LA proper and could easily take a pic
What should we wager? 1 year avatar bet?
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ReasonBeing
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People generally refer the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area as "LA". I'm not giving my city, but I can see downtown from where I live. My eggs are nowhere near $20. I'm sure you can find a bodega that is selling them for close to that, but Walmart has them for $7.12 at their South Gate location.Want to make this interesting?
I don’t know what you mean by “Los Angeles area”, but I live in LA proper and could easily take a pic
What should we wager? 1 year avatar bet?
kiphalfton
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So what you're saying is in 2023 more people in a household are working than in 2015.
Depends who you ask.
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I collect VHS tapes
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So no bet then?
I live in ktown. The egg problem got so bad around here the nearest Trader Joe’s stopped selling them, as did Target.
South Gate Walmart is about an 30-60 mins from ktown/LA btw depending on traffic
Edit: to clarify, I’m not saying TJ is out of eggs. They used to have limits that people can only buy a max of 2 dozen. And they were still often out. But then they actually stopped selling them entirely.
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Dude, that's literally already happening. This future you are talking about is the very reality for a lot of people today. It sucks and it will get worse.
Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
No doubt because of Scalpers and Nintendo fans will make this ell out for the immediate future. I question the long game and the mass consumer. I am a fan and have already decided not to get one because of this shit. It's not me or you it's the mass consumer who decides if this succeeds. We will see a year or two after launch if it's a success or the consumer has finally had enough.
ZoukGalaxy
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But income stayed "2015", so you see the problem with this unnecessary outrageous price...
Omnipunctual Godot
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Not paying $80-$90 for PS4-Pro-quality games. Not happening.
ReasonBeing
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Ralphs still sells them for around $7 if you want your egg fix.
Fabieter
Member
You how to compare profit development of the compaies as well and Nintendo games are among the cheapest in the industry and they still want more than sony and Microsoft. You don't think thats weird?
I collect VHS tapes
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Ralph’s was selling out shortly after the shipment arrived, at least that what was the case when I checked recently.
Cheapest option near me that consistently carries them is Seafood city, which I paid over $10 for. The Mexican, Salvadoran, etc. markets, not bodegas but full on markets, sell them for closer to $17. Which is my whole point. Again, these aren’t bodegas.
These are the markets I tend to frequent as the meat and produce, which I buy way more often than eggs, are much cheaper and higher quality than places like Ralph’s. So whereas I might save money on eggs, I’m paying sometimes close to double for meat compared to a Mexican or Salvadoran market.
Edit: as a reminder, I never claimed you can’t find eggs cheaper. I just said they’re being sold for close to $20 in LA, which is true and happening all over LA. You pivoted by making an exception for bodegas, but this is true outside of bodegas as well. The super markets I frequent for meat and produce tends to sell them much higher than Ralph’s, but Ralph’s has shitty meat and produce compared to most ethnic markets like Asian and Salvadoran markets. These markets sold a dozen for closer to $6-7 pre avian flu.
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Dirk Benedict
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This is crazy region locking. I want to look into this.Read the Switch 2 price in japan is $330 alas it's Japanese Language only.
The ‘Domestic Only’ console will retail for a cheaper price (49,980 yen, or $334) and will only have Japanese as the console’s language setting, and the only Nintendo account that can be linked will be one created with the country/region setting set to Japan.
PurePlatinum
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$80 is completely reasonable for Nintendo quality. $10 upcharge for physical is just the cost you pay for being stuck in 2005...sorry.
Blitzkrieg!
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It’s not Nintendos fault you suck at life.
th4tguy
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Now add in how much living expenses has gone up. More of our checks go to housing than ever
th4tguy
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Damn…. But I’m salary
Midway-AGNC-
Neo Member
This inflation strawmanned excuse is among the major reason for why prices for everything, not just gaming, are skyrocketing nowadays. People's income is not actually following the increasing prices and it's boggling there's actually people falling for this nonsense and defending this. It'll only make living costs all around the world more expensive.
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DownLikeBCPowder
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Eggs are currently 5 dollars a dozen at Walmart here, which is still outrageous for the area, used to 1-2 dollars.
That's the point . Inflation would make it worse.
ReasonBeing
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Even if supply starts to meet demand, I doubt the manufacturers will ever go back to pre bird flu pricing. I wouldn't be surprised if they are already working with inflated profits.
cartman414
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Inflation meets stabilization via Moore's Law.
Otherwise the SNES would have been $599 at launch, and we'd be looking at $16k for PS5.
Otherwise the SNES would have been $599 at launch, and we'd be looking at $16k for PS5.