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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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And that's fine, but people are acting like this some some cultural event when in reality it's mass produced marketing
Star Wars helped people heal and re-discover their core values after the confusion and heartbreak of the Vietnam/Assassination/Nixon years. It was a transformative cultural event.

We are again in a dark period of confusion and global strife. Star Wars provides an essential Joseph Campbell influenced "monomyth" approach that people find uplifting and empowering.

No one thought Star Wars would be a hit. The studio thought it would flop. The AUDIENCE made it a cultural sensation because it spoke to them.

Star Wars is much more than just marketing.
 
Youtube compression really does it a disservice.

Seeing it in proper HD on the download from Apple trailers. It is just breathtaking. The music, the sound design, and every iconic image.

I can feel the strength of the film's visual storytelling. Real myth-making.

The Joseph Campbell is strong here.

Yup just finished rewatching the AppleT link. Big difference. lol

Was tempted to do screengrabs there.
 
I don't have any issue with the Empire still being around, I mean it had a massive fleet that wasn't going to disintegrate just because the newest Death Star got blown up. Certainly there were probably per plays and chairs for a while (might still be).

Question. Is the whole "there are only ever two Sith" actual canon from the films? I can't remember anymore if that just cried up in the games or not.

Yeah it really isnt hard for me to fathom a scenario where the Empire begins to strengthen again and after some power struggles a new, powerful regime begins to rise again. Think how many countries overthrow a tyrannical government only to see a new one eventually emerge from the ashes. Heck just look at Nazi Germany that the Storm Troopers are clearly inspired by. A couple decades after WWI and Germany is an even more powerful empire.

The original films were always very vague on the Empire(not anywhere close to an expert on this series so I may be wrong) so it leaves the door open to pretty easily explain things.
 
Has 3-PO been in any of the trailers. I can't recall seeing him.

I wonder if they are hiding him like they are hiding Luke? jk
 
Ok, it's as much as a cultural event as the new Iphone release.

It's probably far greater than that.

A new Star Wars release is absolutely a cultural event... I could give you a pass if you were an infant in 2005 but otherwise you must have been hiding under a rock.
 
Trailer didn't have the impact of the first two teasers but after watching it 5 times I must say it looks pretty damn great.
 
Is anyone else giddy rather than bitter over Han's lines about their history? I'm in love with the implication that Kylo has a primitive lightsaber, and no one else in his ranks apparently has made one. It seems to imply that he might not have the force initially either. I find this so exciting because it brings the Jedi and the force back down to this extremely rare phenomenon that some people desire but can't emulate. Because of the timeline of the prequels, and how plentiful jedi were, the force was used so often to the point of losing interest. Having it be a such a rare thing, and having that tense and suspensful build up to people using the force is absolutely going to increase the "OH SHIT" factor ten fold.

Sorry but this just makes me so excited.

This is a cool point, but there is a shot in the new trailer where Kylo is outstretching his hand menacingly which gives the appearance that he is using the force in some way.
 
Ok, it's as much as a cultural event as the new Iphone release.

If someone asked me to create a list of films with the most significant cultural impacts, I cannot imagine what worldview I would have to subscribe to in order to not to include Star Wars in that list. I can talk to both my parents and my nieces/nephews about Star Wars. That's three generations of relevancy.
 
Maybe I'm not expressing myself the right way. Stars Wars is a cultural event, or I should say was. This new movie (going by the trailer) looks like a cooperate marking move to capitalize on the cultural event.

Considering the original Star Wars pretty much invented movie merchandise marketing, I don't see why you can't have it be both.

Personally, this is a much bigger deal to me as a cultural event than the PT was due to the return of so many OT characters and actors (that aren't droids or Ancient Aliens).
 
Maybe I'm not expressing myself the right way. Stars Wars is a cultural event, or I should say was. This new movie (going by the trailer) looks like a cooperate marking move to capitalize on the cultural event.
Well...by it's very nature it is but I understand ya. This trailer seems in a lot of aspects like a very by the numbers movie trailer with cryptic dialogue in some areas and lots of shots of the CGI.
 
If someone asked me to create a list of films with the most significant cultural impacts, I cannot imagine what worldview someone would have to be operating under not to include Star Wars in that list. I can talk to both my parents and my nieces/nephews about Star Wars. That's three generations of relevancy.

Star Wars would be number 1 on that list and nothing else would compare.

Titanic? Avatar? Avengers? Jurassic Park? LotR?

None of them even come close.
 
This is a cool point, but there is a shot in the new trailer where Kylo is outstretching his hand menacingly which gives the appearance that he is using the force in some way.
Yeah, but that might not be something he is capable of at the beginning of the film. There might be an intense build up to him being capable of it. I feel like Damerons initial expression of confusion in this trailers scene is supportive of that as well.
 
To have a discussion about the film? Are you this openly hostile to everyone trying to talk to you or are you just deciding for some reason to have a beef with me about nothing? Are you aware you're on a forum and the entire point of a forum is to have a discussion?

All I've said was blaster wounds don't bleed, you could have said any number of things that weren't hostile or dickish but instead you decided to go immediately down that route. So I'm not sure what your problem is but you need to drop it or stop posting because you're clearly having some kind of issue with having a discussion on a forum.

What is the point of saying that in relevance to my post? Its a simple question. You responded to me remember?

I said the film looks poised to be PG-13 and you respond saying blasters don't cause blood. I say "and?" inviting you to explain yourself.

You respond rather dismissively: And what? Do I need to say more? No blood no gore.

So what exactly is the point of saying that in relevance to my post unless you are challenging my opinion? And if you aren't then what was the point of those comments?? The only reason this continues is because you are being intentionally cryptic with explaining yourself and your reasonings.
 
Doesn't really say that, he says he got nothing to fight for not that he doesn't fight for the empire. I mean I hope i'm wrong but I bet ya his story ark is not giving a shit to giving a shit because friendship or some such drivel



To many to count :(



I don't understand? 16 years of people with different opinions is a bad thing?



And that's fine, but people are acting like this some some cultural event when in reality it's mass produced marketing


Speaking of mass produced marketing, Cover Girl is coming out with a line of Force Awakens makeup.

I know Star Wars has jumped the shark before but this seems too crazy.

https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2015/06/16/photos-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens-makeup-collection-from-covergirl/
 
Bollocks. Star Wars was a fundamental part of my childhood. A new film, especially one that seems true to the originals, is a BIG DEAL.

How in anyway does that trailer look anything like the original movies?

Have you seen how nuts people get at those though?

Fair point but how fast are they flipping out over the next big thing? Fair to say it's a flash in the panm?

Star Wars helped people heal and re-discover their core values after the confusion and heartbreak of the Vietnam/Assassination/Nixon years. It was a transformative cultural event.

We are again in a dark period of confusion and global strife. Star Wars provides an essential Joseph Campbell influenced "monomyth" approach that people find uplifting and empowering.

No one thought Star Wars would be a hit. The studio thought it would flop. The AUDIENCE made it a cultural sensation because it spoke to them.

Star Wars is much more than just marketing.

Dude I really like star wars too but you just made some bold claims that are outside the scope of this thread. The fact Star Wars was such an out of nowhere hit is what makes it amazing. This new movie looks like its abusing that heritage, I think this new Star Wars will be no better or worse then the last Star Trek movie, good movie but forgotten a few years later.

If someone asked me to create a list of films with the most significant cultural impacts, I cannot imagine what worldview I would have to subscribe to in order to not to include Star Wars in that list. I can talk to both my parents and my nieces/nephews about Star Wars. That's three generations of relevancy.

Bet ya in 10 years you make the same list the old Star Wars movies would be on it and not this new one

Considering the original Star Wars pretty much invented movie merchandise marketing, I don't see why you can't have it be both.

Personally, this is a much bigger deal to me as a cultural event than the PT was due to the return of so many OT characters and actors (that aren't droids or Ancient Aliens).

Going by the trailer it looks like it's going down the dark side path of marketing bullshit

Well...by it's very nature it is but I understand ya. This trailer seems in a lot of aspects like a very by the numbers movie trailer with cryptic dialogue in some areas and lots of shots of the CGI.

Kinda what I'm getting at, this trailer with a name change would be like every other modern movie trailer and that would be fine but people are hyping it up to be the the coming of Jesus Christ and by the trailer alone it's not

Speaking of mass produced marketing, Cover Girl is coming out with a line of Force Awakens makeup.

I know Star Wars has jumped the shark before but this seems too crazy.

https://dorksideoftheforce.com/2015/06/16/photos-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens-makeup-collection-from-covergirl/

Can't roll my eyes hard enough
 
By Luke's time, force users were pretty much extinct and considered relics of a bygone age who practiced some weird religion. No one knew the Emperor was a force user except for Vader, Yoda, and later Luke. Grand Moff Tarkin even said that Vader was the last living Force user in the original Star Wars because everyone else thought Obi-Wan Kenobi was dead. Luke was the last Jedi, and he only whipped out his saber to fight Vader and Jabba the Hutt on the barge.

The reason it seems different to us, is because we're following Luke's journey as a Jedi in the OT. Everyone else in that universe didn't see it from his vantage point. The only ones who experienced it first hand were Han and Leia because they were with him for most of it, and witnessed his exploits first hand (also Leia herself being force-sensitive). So for people outside of Luke's circle (i.e. people who were born years after RotJ), the Jedi, the dark side, the Force, just seems like fairy tales and urban legends.

In short, a person living in the Prequel era might see a Jedi in passing. A person living in the OT era hasn't seen a Jedi in decades. A person living in the new trilogy era has never seen a living Jedi, and their exploits were either tarnished by the Empire, or largely considered nothing more than tall tales.

So yeah, it makes sense.

This was a phenomenal post.

I also loved that Luke showed up ever so briefly in the trailer.
 
Trailer didn't have the impact of the first two teasers but after watching it 5 times I must say it looks pretty damn great.

Oh I definitely agree, especially after watching the 2nd one again. That second one just feels like the most star wars thing within 2 minutes ever. It just looks and feels right.

This 3rd and final one though? Eeeeeh, it's not as good. Wish they had done it a different way.
 
It was a good trailer... it wasn't as good as Batman V Superman's trailer was (which will have it's own problems considering they kinda did their final trailer about 8 months too early)...

This trailer really didn't do much to set up the story of Episode 7... but that's by design. Unfortunately because I have no idea where this is going (it's a double-edged sword) that I might just draw my own conclusions and be disappointed the film didn't go there (which I really shouldn't be doing but can't help). Also, Kylo Ren went from omg this guy is so cool to, they might just Darth Maul the guy. He looks goofy with his hood off and that voice is hella meh. With the hood on and his lightsaber he looks bad ass.

With that said....

The shots were made for GIFs (which are the kind of shock and awe moments you want from a trailer), the music, oh my god the music. Loved Han's speech about everything (that probably passed into legend and forgotten) were all true. Almost like the audience is on the same journey as these new characters in finding out what all this is.

The Knights of Ren (please don't Darth Maul him and kill him off)!!!!!!!!

While I dinged them on it, on one hand, I have to commend the masterful stroke Disney has done in shrouding everything in secrecy... bravo. Really rare these days.

(it was a lot dark than I expected... a more serious tone... which I'm leaning towards it being a positive thing... I hope it's not them seeing the silly Episode 1 and over correcting)

I got my tickets to opening night, and I'm beyond excited for it. Here's hoping it's a good one.
 
Ok, it's as much as a cultural event as the new Iphone release.
I'm not sure we'll care quite as much about a new iPhone release 30-40 years down the road, quite like we seem to be eager for a new Star Wars. There's a lot more to that than simple mass marketing driving it.
 
I'm not sure we'll care quite as much about a new iPhone release 30-40 years down the road, quite like we seem to be eager for a new Star Wars. There's a lot more to that than simple mass marketing driving it.

That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.
 
Regarding Luke... My buddy says
lukes dead and will be in holo form aka Ben kanobi. He says lukes very still in his shots and always in front of green screen.
 
How in anyway does that trailer look anything like the original movies?



Fair point but how fast are they flipping out over the next big thing? Fair to say it's a flash in the panm?



Dude I really like star wars too but you just made some bold claims that are outside the scope of this thread. The fact Star Wars was such an out of nowhere hit is what makes it amazing. This new movie looks like its abusing that heritage, I think this new Star Wars will be no better or worse then the last Star Trek movie, good movie but forgotten a few years later.





Going by the trailer it looks like it's going down the dark side path of marketing bullshit



Kinda what I'm getting at, this trailer with a name change would be like every other modern movie trailer and that would be fine but people are hyping it up to be the the coming of Jesus Christ and by the trailer alone it's not



Can't roll my eyes hard enough
This movie is honoring the heritage as much as it's financially benefiting from it.

Fans have been wanting a sequel and deserve one after PT.

Star Wars has a culture and it's going to have a field day.
That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.
You're wrong.
 
That's my whole point, this movie will not be remembered in 10-20 years. I hope i'm wrong but the trailer alone looks like every other movie trailer. Nothing about it stands out besides the name and the music.

The prequels are still remembered, and they came out more than 10 years ago....
 
Maybe I'm not expressing myself the right way. Stars Wars is a cultural event, or I should say was. This new movie (going by the trailer) looks like a cooperate marking move to capitalize on the cultural event.

Who cares, people who shitted for years on the franchise love it.
 
I'm not sure we'll care quite as much about a new iPhone release 30-40 years down the road, quite like we seem to be eager for a new Star Wars. There's a lot more to that than simple mass marketing driving it.
A new iPhone gets released like once a year and we haven't had a movie in like a decade. Of course there's some more excitement. We'll see how well the excitement holds once the Disney factory starts grinding them out.
 
This movie is honoring the heritage as much as it's financially benefiting from it.

Fans have been wanting a sequel and deserve one after PT.

Star Wars has a culture and it's going to have a field day.

You're wrong.

I had a guy on this very forum adamantly argue that Final Fantsy VII was as big or bigger a cultural icon than Star Wars. He kept calling it "your little space ship movie" while defending the impact of FFVII.

Some people.
 
Even if something is just marketing, the fact that it resonates and is accepted by society at large means it is culturally significant. McDonald's is a major cultural icon as are many business/marketing driven subjects. I mean, an extremely reductive definition of culture would probably just be "stuff that is popular". I'm no fan of high/low art distinctions, but even those who draw them aren't trying to argue that low art isn't culture, just that it's inferior to high art/culture.

People still talk about the prequels and this looks several tiers above that in terms of quality. I can't imagine a scenario in which people stop talking about the prequels, let alone this slate of movies, decades from now. Star Wars has such incredible cultural inertia that people are going to keep talking about it and keeping it relevant regardless of the quality of these new movies.
 
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