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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer
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It sure is! I laughed.
Edit: Damn when I went looking for Star Wars fight choreographies on Google I accidentally stumbled upon an alleged spoiler for this movie. Don't do it folks!
"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times, before the Empire."
Unless Obi-Wan was exaggerating the role of the Jedi, there were probably more than just a few 70 years ago.
Gordon Shumway
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This is amazing lol..
That is a piece of art!
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lmao
Was just listening to the new forcecast and one of the people there said in the Knights of Ren scene from the trailer Kylo has his lightsaber AND another in his left hand
What
The
Fuck
Im watching now, he might be right
What
The
Fuck
Im watching now, he might be right
Best thing in the thread other than the trailer itself lol
The prequels are canon.
Fun thing is while the prequels may have happened if the emeperor did his job well enough they can almost be entirely forgotten, propaganda nuked all mention of the Jedi Order.
Empty Space
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There's a line in the prequels that the Republic was 1000 years old, so the Jedi Order can't be older than that. Either way the Jedi have been around a long time and the idea that there are people 70 years after it ceased to exist is strange. I've always assumed that the context of that line was less that Rey/Finn don't know about the Jedi and more wonder how much truth there is in the stories of these people who were capable of deafting hundreds of foes alone. Han doubted the strength of the force when Luke is practicing with that laser droid it's a similar thing here. I think that's the case, but who knows.
Holy shit he IS holding something in his left hand!
Rewound it a few times, it definitely looks like a lightsaber
Vampirolol
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Kylo is Count Dooku's son, masterpiece.
Empty Space
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It's probably Anakin's lightsaber that seems to be getting passed around in the trailers.
It doesnt look like Anakins, but then its hard to tell, it doesnt look like any lightsaber im familiar with.
Anakin's lightsaber is so popular it's now mass-produced. Everyone's got one!
Batteries sold separately
Sold like printers, the actual lightsaber is relatively cheap, they get you on the triple A's though
Empty Space
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Well they picked the best lightsaber hilt design, so good on them!
After looking at the actual scene in question he does seem to be holding something lightsabery. It looks more like Luke's RotJ or Obi-Wan's though, but it's impossible to tell.
hooijdonk17
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I think it looks like Vader's actually:
I think this is what happened.
You all fogot, in the famous I find your lack of faith disturbing scene in ANH, there is already a imperial officer who refers to the force as a fairty tale. And thats 19 years after Order 66.
Spiritreaver
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Holy. I miss this game so much.I think it looks like Vader's actually:
hooijdonk17
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Best CCG ever.
Turin Turambar
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What effects?
Finished Attack of the Clones aa few minutes ago.
It's better than Phantom Menace but holy shit is it ugly and the writing is pretty terrible sometimes. Thankfully the plot actually made sense unlike Phantom Menace.
Going to watch Revenge of the Sith tomorrow and then the 2003 Clone Wars cartoons. Then I'm going to give the CGI Clone Wars show a second chance. I stopped watching it after 5 or so episodes a year ago. I hear it gets really good in the later seasons but I don't know if I have the will to wait until then.
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Lol @ Anikin telling Padme he just murdered a whole tribe including the children and she gave no fucks.
"You kill innocent kids? We should get married."
It's better than Phantom Menace but holy shit is it ugly and the writing is pretty terrible sometimes. Thankfully the plot actually made sense unlike Phantom Menace.
Going to watch Revenge of the Sith tomorrow and then the 2003 Clone Wars cartoons. Then I'm going to give the CGI Clone Wars show a second chance. I stopped watching it after 5 or so episodes a year ago. I hear it gets really good in the later seasons but I don't know if I have the will to wait until then.
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Lol @ Anikin telling Padme he just murdered a whole tribe including the children and she gave no fucks.
"You kill innocent kids? We should get married."
It didn't. Not any development.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yeah I'm with you here.
TPM is coherent, but has an off-putting juvenile package (kids and gunguns) that is hard to swallow past the age of 8.
AOTC is very incoherent and pointless, but has a package of being some serious dark serious Jedi adventure. Looking past the surface elements, it is actually a far worse film.
What do you mean it didn't make sense? What part didn't? The plot is pretty straight forward.
And I'd say there was some decent development in the story.
-Anakin starts going to the Dark Side.
-The Empire is created and they get the clone army.
-Even though the love storyline was shit, it did set up them being together which is needed for the next film.
-Obi-wan learns that a Sith is now leading the senate even though he doesn't believe it at first.
A few of the big developments that came to mind which help lead the story into Episode III.
I mean, it's not a great film and probably not even a good one but I don't think saying that no development happened or that the story didn't make sense is valid criticism.
Didn't have any issues following the plot at all while I had no clue what the hell was happening in The Phantom Menace. Why was there a blockade? Why was she freaking out and talking about her people dying after a few hours of side blockade? Why was it so difficult to prove that a blockade was happening? I have no idea what anyone's plans were or why the conflict even begin. There was scheming afoot and then a war happened why or how, I've no idea.
Just follow the Guide for the best episodes of Clone Wars. It's fantastic
Huh, that's interesting. It definitely looks light a lightsaber, though hard to tell if it's a familiar one.
What's also interesting about it is the first short shot of the knights, before the second closer one; originally I thought Kylo was gesturing at someone ahead of him to come at him but now I assume he's just used Force grab to disarm someone holding a lightsaber (or pick it up from the ground).
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
There are two story threads in this movie.
1. The love story. Which, as we all know, is painful everytime it appears on screen. It's a series of proclamations about love which are not only cringey, they're completely unrelated to how real love works, or even how idealized harlequin romance works!
No one on earth "bought" this story. It is fake and unattractive. A dignified princess falls in love with a petulant child, who is supposed to be a member of an order of monks who cultivates the better side of human nature. And yet he not only doesn't demonstrate wisdom for a Jedi, he demonstrates less wisdom than a man of his age should have. And this is held up as an ideal romance! Wrong wrong wrong.
2. The detective story. Obiwan talks to a series of boring people in a linear fashion "and this guy said, then this guy said....". Dexter Jettster in the diner, the Jedi archives lady, and then Kamino.... It is basically "the princess is in another castle" over and over... and when you get to it? Oh it's a clone army ordered by an offscreen Jedi. You could have delivered this sequence in far more interesting ways, but they were stalling, filling this movie out with what they hoped would be taken as "intrigue".
I actually think - and this is saying something - that detective Obiwan is the worst sequence in the movie and of the entire Star Wars saga. It doesn't have the meme-worthy CG errors or hated lines that geeks can easily pick out as bad, and it sneaks under the radar... But it is actually the worst storytelling you can have in a film. This guy said, then this guy said, then this guy said.....
hooijdonk17
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Let's not forget that the detective Jedi bullshit also gave us the second most terrible line ever spoken in Star Wars, "Jedi business, go back to your drinks."
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I don't think the line is significantly terrible in Star Wars (because there's a lot of competition), but I hate what it implies about the Jedi.
So the Jedi are cops? Military?
Lucas you fucked up. They're monks, bro. That's what you were hinting at in the OT. Sure they are Knights... but like Knights Templar, a society of guardians... not the fucking fuzz.
Its actually implied, that their turn to Cops and Generals were the thing that started their downfall.
And Obi Wan just turned out to be a monk, because he was trained by the one jedi who was not ok with this.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yes, I think that happens..... after the events of AOTC when the clone army and clone wars begin. The "Jedi Business" line is from the time when Jedi were at their height.
Retcon alert.
No, I don't buy - and I don't want to buy (because it ruins the whole series) - the insinuation that Obiwan, Yoda or Luke were "special" Jedis who really "got it", and most Jedis were actually corrupted jerks.
If the Jedi were corrupted, even in their pre-clone war state, the OT doesn't make sense. It means Luke shouldn't have wanted to revive the Jedi.
No this is all retcon nonsense to justify Lucas' unthinking portrayal of the Jedi. He sleepwalked into making them republic police because he didn't understand how that would ruin the view of them in the OT as a people with a better and more spiritually attuned way of life.
hooijdonk17
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This scene takes place before the Clone Wars even started. It implies that Jedi were actually cops all along. "Jedi business, go back to your drinks" and everyone goes back to their business as if some vigilante cop just warned them to look away or else..
It's terrible, terrible, terrible.
The PT is just simply incredibly terrible.
But then, Lucas did make Obi-Wan chop off some dude's arm in another bar scene like a vigilante cop just because he was being a bully instead of using a Jedi Mind Trick to make him walk away.. I think Disney buying the rights from Lucas is the best thing that happened to Star Wars.
UnforgivenTwin
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You can hold them while...you know.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
one and done.
hooijdonk17
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You mean like on Tatooine? Man, Lucas started to ruin Star Wars in 1977. Someone should have made sure these movies had never greenlighted.
And I know that they started to be like this before Phantom Menace. But you know, stuff like doesnt usually happen in like 10 years when you have have a organisation that is around for a couple of thousand years.
Blackwater has only been around for 18 years and are a small group with no strong affiliation. Just a PMC.
Jedis were keeping order for thousands of years and were in charge of the forces. Clearly a major military force.
You have to suspend a lot of belief to for Jedis to become a myth. When it's only been 19 years since their luxury palace in the galaxies capital.
You talking about Episode IV? Doesn't the guy pull a gun?
hooijdonk17
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There is the effort of a great many people in the OT that made it so damn good. Lucas was apparently not one of them, and his PT work shows. Obi-Wan's reaction at the Tattooine cantina is totally unwarranted and absolutely character breaking after all the rhetoric about Jedi and peace - it's actually the kind of thing you would have expected Anakin to pull off at the top of his arrogance. You can almost tell that he wanted to make Jedi unaccountable badass supercops of some sort.. and then he went on to make that happen in the PT.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I wish it were so.
TFA trailer gets me thinking about the OT which eventually gets me thinking about the PT......
Practically, it is dead though. It's not like they'll declare it non-canon, but it's not like they'll remind us of it either.
Yes, he did.
Obi Wan wanted to deescalate the situation, but the other guy pulled a gun.
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