CreepingFear
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Avengers vs Star Wars vs Indiana Jones Multi-verse confirmed. Disney makes 1 gazillion dollars.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Official Teaser Trailer #2
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Avengers vs Star Wars vs Indiana Jones Multi-verse confirmed. Disney makes 1 gazillion dollars.
I need it.
It's impressive that you've gathered that when the only dialogue in the trailer is a line almost straight out of the original trilogy..lol
Jest Chillin
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The Empire does indeed stretch throughout the Galaxy and the OT only focuses on stopping Death Stars and Luke defeating the Emperor. So there should be many Admirals that still exist and large amounts of forces that weren't destroyed. Remember too that the Rebels were relatively small in comparison to Empire forces, always on the cusp of being wiped out entirely.
The EU had many books that covered the various Empire groups that were left still operating throughout the Galaxy... so while all of those stories are gone now, they could still potentially mine the basic idea of fragments Empire forces still existing.
Blasters would be.. different but not necessarily better. Blasters suffer the same problem that all guns suffer from. They can malfunction in battle. Lightsabers were much more dependable.
I don't remember where I saw it explained, could very well be EU which would make it... undependable at best... but the use of a lightsaber is said to be very dangerous for non-force users. The likelihood of seriously injuring yourself in battle was said to be very high if you didn't have use of the force to help guide the blade. This is because a saber doesn't have a "balance" the way a normal physical blade does and of course they can cut through nearly anything.
But as I said.. that explanation could be from the EU so.. grain of salt in regards to it's application to the new movies.
Chezzymann
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Goddamn almost 10 million views in 8 hours
wonder if it'll beat the first teaser
wonder if it'll beat the first teaser
CreepingFear
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Ha ha, I saw this one. Patton Oswalt is awesome.
……forgetit
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I think the whole only force users have lightsabers thing went out of the window when they introduced general grievous. Ya know, this guy?
Not a force user.
It'll probably be better in the context of whatever scene it's actually in. They just kind of plopped in at the end for that sentimental reaction.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'm very sensitive to the classic 30s serial style of Star Wars, and I think you can't possibly be judging this aspect right now. You'll have to see the final film to judge whether it's still in that style.
Sure, there are a bunch of dynamic shots, but I think it's fully fair to expect some of that from a modern update. They're basically the equivalent of the daring shots in the Death Star trench run in the original film, which in its day wasn't "classic serial" either.
The part that makes me agree with you is that one shot that zooms in on the Falcon mid-shot. That breaks the 30s serial style, I think, but they did it in Episode II already.
I think the final film will have paced dialogue scenes, cutting between locations with Kurosawa-style screenwipes and, playful John Williams melodies - just as in the original films. If the final film has modern action movie filmmaking techniques - shaky cam, overly dynamic camera movements, flashbacks and other plot devices not used in the original - then I'll be bitching alongside you.
superNESjoe
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You mean the voice overs that are pulled right from the same movies you say it doesn't feel like?
Jest Chillin
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He's got a huge asterisk though in that he's a Cyborg that was personally trained in Lightsaber usage by a Sith Lord (Count Dooku). I mean, that's a major outlier.
……forgetit
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That teaser did it's damn job. Got hyped a fair bit more than I was before it.
Female lead. Black male lead that will hopefully survive the entire trilogy. Get off my lawn Han and CGI Chewie worked for me.
I want this to not let me down, so, I remain skeptical of a better finished product than Abrams Star Trek. Which while not terrible, was not all that great either.
Female lead. Black male lead that will hopefully survive the entire trilogy. Get off my lawn Han and CGI Chewie worked for me.
I want this to not let me down, so, I remain skeptical of a better finished product than Abrams Star Trek. Which while not terrible, was not all that great either.
The "Chewie...we're home" line may not even be in the release version of the film.
The only other lines in this trailer were from Luke, which were just his lines taken straight from ROTJ, albeit slightly retouched and reordered.
TheGreatLugia
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Great trailer. I've already rewatched it a few times. I love the visual style in general and all of the character designs, so I really hope the film delivers.
If youre a total SW fanboy you just ignore the prequels.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
A friend of mine was bitching about how bad this trailer was all day. It's like he had come in from some bizarro super-hater dimension... I couldn't fathom it.
Turns out he had watched the old and fake fan trailer that said Disney/Bad Robot on it. Lol he's not gonna live that one down.
Turns out he had watched the old and fake fan trailer that said Disney/Bad Robot on it. Lol he's not gonna live that one down.
Glass Shark
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I think I figured out what my biggest concern is with this movie.
I'm really worried that it's going to be super heavy on nostalgia and callbacks and full of "Hey remember this thing from those movies you like?"
You might suggest that the trailers so far have both had a good mix of new and old, but I really want to see these films tell their own story and not dwell too much on what happened in the past except for what they have to in order to establish the new stuff.
I swear, if there's some joke about Han shooting first, I'm done. DONE.
I'm really worried that it's going to be super heavy on nostalgia and callbacks and full of "Hey remember this thing from those movies you like?"
You might suggest that the trailers so far have both had a good mix of new and old, but I really want to see these films tell their own story and not dwell too much on what happened in the past except for what they have to in order to establish the new stuff.
I swear, if there's some joke about Han shooting first, I'm done. DONE.
Brothers and space
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bahaha what was his reaction to the actual trailer?
It's JJ Abrams. of course it's going to shamelessly rely on unearned nostalgia, it's the reason he was hired.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think he had spent his energy to comment on the fake one
He said "oh I like THIS one" and didn't say much else.
I hope we get a Rich Evans reacts video.
CreepingFear
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How do you top Rich Evans fucking a toy droid as a reaction to the first teaser?
I don't think he can top the last one.
loaf of bread
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This is going to make so much damn money.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Definitely there is a fine line, there.
I would say they need some callbacks to the original.. It's perfectly natural, being a sequel, and also there is some element of "coming home" that we actually want.
But if it's even at Star Trek 2009 levels of wink wink nostalgia, I will consider it too much.
Jest Chillin
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There's also that one bounty hunter.
This guy
In the center
I was completely unaware that they ever wrote Boba Fett as capable of wielding a Saber. I knew he collected them as trophies but not that he used them.
Looking it up most of his saber usage was based in the comics but I see at least one book reference to him using it. Interesting to say the least. That's still only two (counting Grievous) non-force users to ever wield a lightsaber in battle. That's a far cry from "tossing the force users only" out the window.
Wookieepedia says:
So.. still incredibly rare for a non-Force user to wield one.
HEHHHH took a few glances, didnt realize the lightsaber in Finn's jacket until now
How are they going to avoid that shit when it's a semi-continuation of the original trilogy with some of the same damn characters? I say bring on the fucking nostalgia, muh-fuckers.
……forgetit
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That's not boba fett, but yeah it's not impossible for non-force users. It's just really awkward without the proper training.
Glass Shark
Banned
Again, I understand there are going to be many of the same characters and there's probably going to be at least some continuation in story. But there's no need to pack this new movie full of old stuff. If I want to see that old stuff, I can just go watch the old movies. I want things to move forward.
Blargonaut
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There's a fine line between homage and parroting, but I BELIEVE in Mark 1 Abrams.
BELIEVE
BrokenFiction
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Plus 30 years of wear and tear and doing Jedi shit across the galaxy.
Jest Chillin
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I thought It was boba and found that he used one. Who is that then?
PerezDeCorcho
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The film will start with Finn participating in an Empire mission with Kylo Ren in command, massacring and burning down a village (Stormtroopers being deployed to a village in trailer 1, Kylo Ren at the burning scene in trailer 2).
The mission makes Finn start questioning his moral stance and he decides to defect from the Empire. Traumatized and with blood on his hands, he returns to the star destroyer and shoots up his former allies with a TIE Fighter (seen in trailer 2) and attempts his escape.
He gets shot down over Jakku (opening shot to trailer 1, most likely the same planet where the village massacre took place), and he is left to search for refuge on his own.
He comes across Rey, who found Luke's lightsaber in her scavenging (clearly in the third pic below). Finn recognizes the weapon as that of the infamous Luke Skywalker, the legend responsible for crippling the Empire (know your enemy and all).
This leads Rey and Finn to seek out Luke after discovering that Rey has a connection with the force (and possibly the Skywalker family). They head to the trader outpost seen in both trailers. The Chrometrooper is hellbent on taking out Finn, and leads a ruthless hunt for him (almost satisfying the role of bounty hunter, only under the Empire's command). And so, we have the scene in which TIE fighters bombard the trader outpost with the intention of taking out Finn (trailer 2).
They steal the Millennium Falcon and attempt their escape from Jakku, with the intention of rallying with the Rebel Alliance in another system. Mind you, the pilot chasing down the Falcon utilizes chrome armor.
Upon escaping, they meet with the leader of the Rebel Alliance, Leia, knowing she's Luke's sibling and that she may be able to assist in seeking him out. They get Luke's saber in her hands and she recognizes it as her brother's, legitimizing Rey and Finn's intentions. Before sending them out to seek him (and unsure of Luke's mental state), she provides them with companions who have history with Luke: Han and Chewie. "Chewie, we're home" implies that Han nor Chewie have commandeered the Falcon in a long time, effectively busting the theory that Han and Chewie help Rey and Finn get out of Jakku (that would be a bit too convenient). This approach also enables the film to reunite Han and Leia in a way that makes sense. Also, I'll have to guess that R2 and C3P0 are under the Rebel Alliance's supervision up to this point, and they're also sent along with Han and company aboard the Falcon (just like old times).
Regarding Kylo Ren, I suspect he senses a threat to the Sith and the Empire, one linked to the Skywalkers (and we all know what happens when you pit a Skywalker against the Empire). He seeks out the remains of Vader, somehow trying to narrow down who this person (Rey) is. This might be an opportunity to integrate the much-rumored flashbacks (featuring Vader and the younger versions of Luke and Leia). Kylo then sets out to destroy this potential threat to an already-wounded Empire. He will serve as the endgame villain.
And regarding Poe Dameron, I think he'll be utilized as a rival to Finn (former Stormtrooper against a patriotic X-Wing pilot). It will make for interesting drama and nice contrast between the Empire and Rebel causes.
A stray and completely unsupported guess is that Finn will kill the Chrometrooper (Captain Phasma played by Gwendoline Christie) to complete his respective arc, solidifying him as a good guy when tempted by her to turn against his new friends.
And regarding Poe Dameron, I think he'll be utilized as a rival to Finn (former Stormtrooper against a patriotic X-Wing pilot). It will make for interesting drama and nice contrast between the Empire and Rebel causes.
A stray and completely unsupported guess is that Finn will kill the Chrometrooper (Captain Phasma played by Gwendoline Christie) to complete his respective arc, solidifying him as a good guy when tempted by her to turn against his new friends.
No no no, that's not how tags work and that's not how spoiler threads work. Jesus Christ.
One thing I absolutely want to see - Luke as an all powerful being. As in, sending Storm Troopers flying with the lift of a finger. impeccable light saber skills, etc.
He was powerful in ROTJ, and now he has had 30+ years to meditate, learn, and commune with The Force. I want to see him as an all powerful, almost insurmountable Master Jedi.
He was powerful in ROTJ, and now he has had 30+ years to meditate, learn, and commune with The Force. I want to see him as an all powerful, almost insurmountable Master Jedi.
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