Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Official Teaser Trailer #2

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I'm not saying he is unattractive, but you can barely see oscars face in it. I have seen inside lleyellan Davis, that is a good film. It also had the weird looking guy who is playing the bad guy in this Star Wars film, tall lanky fella.

There is more to my crushes than just the looks. I just have a good feeling about him in this flick. I think I'll fall for Poe. The most recent photo revealed of him walking just oozes something cool.

inside llewyn davis, two faces of january, most violent year

also got xmen coming up next year.

I wonder if any of these are on the Aussie Netflix yet. I'll look out for them.

Ex Machina is another one I'm looking forward to this year.
 
There is more to my crushes than just the looks. I just have a good feeling about him in this flick. I think I'll fall for Poe. The most recent photo revealed of him walking just oozes something cool.



I wonder if any of these are on the Aussie Netflix yet. I'll look out for them.

Ex Machina is another one I'm looking forward to this year.

Domhnall Gleeson doing good for himself this year.
 
Alright, this is the scene I was talking about:

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Dat cgi

This is so much worse in motion too. One of the worst things even back then such a big wtf scene.
 
why does daisy ridley have perfect teeth

why is she a qtpie

;_;
 
Attack of the Clones is so bad.

Even back in 2002, when I was like "at least the action was better" I thought they'd fucked up the Arena fight with all the Jedi. It looked like a slow-motion middle school rave, with bugs and robots wandering into frame every now and again.

You can almost entirely, 100% substitute most of The Clone Wars for the Prequels and come away with a measurably improved experience - and if you want to know *exactly* how Anakin turned, then there's Episode III.

Episode III does a terrible job of doing that. The novelization does a better but still really bad job.
Speaking of Episode III, they even managed to fuck up the space battle. It's just a bunch of shit flying in every direction and the characters look and sound alternately bored and embarrassed.
The prequels were just a complete writeoff.
 
Holy shit thats NOT from the Clone Wars series? Jesus Christ. Its been over 10 years since I saw this movie but I dont remember the CG being that bad. Yiiiiikes.

Keep in mind - they shot it on 1080p cameras. It'll never be any more hi-def than that.

Episode III does a terrible job of doing that.

I don't like the execution, but it's the only way to actually watch it happen, is more what I meant. I think Revenge of the Sith is a better made film than Return of the Jedi (I don't think either of them are all that good a movie) but I don't think it's positives really have anything to do with Anakin or Padme's story, save for the scene in the Opera house, and the wordless "across the city" sequence they share.
 
Keep in mind - they shot it on 1080p cameras. It'll never be any more hi-def than that.

The CGI could be, and that's half the movie. Pixar rerenders their movies all the time.
It would still be a lot of compositing work though, even for the all-CGI shots.
 
The CGI could be,

I don't think it was, though. And even if it was - it's still ostensibly a live-action film. The live-action bits can't go over 1080p. And even then - the film's in 2.35, so it's not even 1080 lines/pixels. I believe it's 800, isn't it?

All your live action elements are capped at 800 pixels tall, maximum, in that case.

(someone come in here and school me on this! I can't be doing all that great a job of describing this)
 
In hindsight it's obvious that it's present-day Hamill reciting his ROTJ lines for the echoed dialogue. Interesting detail for something that's likely non-diegetic/trailer exclusive.
 
Keep in mind - they shot it on 1080p cameras. It'll never be any more hi-def than that.



I don't like the execution, but it's the only way to actually watch it happen, is more what I meant. I think Revenge of the Sith is a better made film than Return of the Jedi (I don't think either of them are all that good a movie) but I don't think it's positives really have anything to do with Anakin or Padme's story, save for the scene in the Opera house, and the wordless "across the city" sequence they share.

It's at its best when no one is talking, that's for sure.
 
In hindsight it's obvious that it's present-day Hamill reciting his ROTJ lines for the echoed dialogue. Interesting detail for something that's likely non-diegetic/trailer exclusive.

It's basically the dialog equivalent of having Williams re-record/re-arrange existing cues for the trailer music.
 
I don't think it was, though. And even if it was - it's still ostensibly a live-action film. The live-action bits can't go over 1080p. And even then - the film's in 2.35, so it's not even 1080 lines/pixels. I believe it's 800, isn't it?

All your live action elements are capped at 800 pixels tall, maximum, in that case.

(someone come in here and school me on this! I can't be doing all that great a job of describing this)

It's not more. I just meant that it could be whatever resolution they want it to be. The stuff that doesn't have live action. Even some of the live action was shrunk down in frame during compositing. They could go higher res and still have that be 1:1 or better.
For the models they'd have logs documenting how they lit it and all the camera moves were converted to animation files and could be reproduced exactly.
 
because that part is practical and is composed with the cgi
What exactly is practical in that segment? I thought both sides were CG, the sand being used to kind of hide it and make it seem more realistic.
And yeah, I agree. I remember there being a commercial or a teaser or something that closed with that image, and I thought "Okay, that looks cool."

But it's just 5 seconds of footage in a largely not good climax to a very not good movie, unfortunately.
Yup and yup. What makes it really stand out for me though is the different layers of movement: the sand flies in one direction, the troopers slowly walk against it, and the flashes of the blasts provide illumination while adding another layer.
 
Whoa ok, from the Mark Hamill stream:

The lines spoken in the trailer are the original lines, but he recorded a new version last week at bad robot and they're used as the echo after the lines are spoken!
Pretty sure Mark Hamill just confirmed at the ROTJ panel that he recorded the lines for the new trailer, even if they are the same lines that Luke spoke to Leia in ROTJ.
Was it for the echo or not?
I guess if it isn't, I was wrong.
 
Holy Jesus, is the CGi in the prequels aged like fish under the sun.

I know it's tiring to constantly shit on those movies, but damn my memories were all sorts of bullshitting me.

Even the final scene of Ep3, which i remember loving, looks like shit:
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They look like a couple taking a Tatooine themed family photo, in a Mall.
 
Holy Jesus, is the CGi in the prequels aged like fish under the sun.

I know it's tiring to constantly shit on those movies, but damn my memories were all sorts of bullshitting me.

Even the final scene of Ep3, which i remember loving, looks like shit:
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They look like a couple taking a Tatooine themed family photo, in a Mall.
Yeah that was filmed during Episode II production and the actors were green screened in.
 
It's basically the dialog equivalent of having Williams re-record/re-arrange existing cues for the trailer music.

Essentially.

On that note, there's a subtly more contemporary sound to this specific trailer arrangement. While it's basically Binary Sunset mashed up with Yoda and the Force, things like that solitary piano note at 32 seconds and the chord change at around 48 seconds hint at a slightly widened musical paradigm. I say hint as it still leaves me none the wiser about whether this sensibility will extend to the film proper.
 
Was it for the echo or not?
I guess if it isn't, I was wrong.

JJ didn't tell him how the lines would be used when he recorded them last week, and from Hamill's tone he wasn't too sure if he'd use the old version or the new one, as his voice aged considerably.

Then he said he decided to use the new version as the echo of the old one.
 
Man I can't wait for all the new characters. Not just the ones we know. New Bounty Hunters, new droids, new creatures, etc. Even with all the spoilers, there is so much we don't know about this new chapter. So hyped!
 
I'LL FITE U

Search your feelings, you KNOW it to be true!

I mean, I bought that Bond 50 box set KNOWING 2/3rds of those movies were trash. Still bought 'em. Because at least it's fun trash for the most part.

On that note, there's a subtly more contemporary sound to this specific trailer arrangement. While it's basically Binary Sunset mashed up with Yoda and the Force, things like that solitary piano note at 32 seconds and the chord change at around 48 seconds hint at a slightly widened musical paradigm.

Kinda...but it's a little more than that. There are a lot of little variations in this recording of those cues. Things are a little more drawn out, a little *deeper* for lack of a better word. I really hope that's translating to the score itself, especially given the extra time he has to write & record this stuff, due to the way the movie's being edited.
 
JJ didn't tell him how the lines would be used when he recorded them last week, and from Hamill's tone he wasn't too sure if he'd use the old version or the new one, as his voice aged considerably.

Then he said he decided to use the new version as the echo of the old one.
So I was right!
*Dances over pointless victory*
 
I enjoy watching Episode 3. In that if someone pulled down one of the three copies I have of it off my DVD shelf, I'd have no problem getting through it.
 
all these posts about bad cgi in the prequels is bothering me :(

i defend the movies as being merely okay but shit they really have not aged well. save us with practical effects jj :(
 
Attack of the Clones is so bad.

Even back in 2002, when I was like "at least the action was better" I thought they'd fucked up the Arena fight with all the Jedi. It looked like a slow-motion middle school rave, with bugs and robots wandering into frame every now and again.

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I hate Episode 2 so much
 
The thing I hate most about the prequels is that they feel so static

The framing, the editing, all of it feels so dead and lifeless

That's because Lucas cared more about his coffee than directing those films properly.


The amazing thing is the prequels had more practical sets than the OT. Good fucking luck finding where they used it.
 
That's because Lucas cared more about his coffee than directing those films properly.


The amazing thing is the prequels had more practical sets than the OT. Good fucking luck finding where they used it.

Huh? I find this incredibly hard to believe.

I do know that the OT used a lot of painted backgrounds for scenes. Like the bit where luke gets his hand cut off. The entire background is a flat angled floor.
 
Huh? I find this incredibly hard to believe.

I do know that the OT used a lot of painted backgrounds for scenes. Like the bit where luke gets his hand cut off. The entire background is a flat angled floor.
It's interesting to read up on.

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-prequels-miniatures/

Many people complain about the abundance of computer-generated effects in George Lucas’ Star Wars prequels, but what they don’t realize is more practical miniature models were created for any one of the Star Wars prequel films than were made for the entire combined original trilogy
 

Now that you mention it, those scenes in which those models were featured did look good. But the consistency of the prequels is all over the place.

To be honest. When I rewatched Avatar. I noticed that the CGI in the beginning of the movie is drastically worse than latter in the film. Like the first night that Jake spends out in the Jungle just looks like utter trash. By the time we are at the attack on Home Tree, the CGI takes a leap into the future. The ash falling, the detail on the characters faces. Moment to moment Avatar isn't that jarring, but between the beginning and end of the film it's drastic.
 
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