Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Official Teaser Trailer #2

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Whoa ok, from the Mark Hamill stream:

The lines spoken in the trailer are the original lines, but he recorded a new version last week at bad robot and they're used as the echo after the lines are spoken!
 
lastplayed said:
It happened a couple of times in the Battle of Genosis.

Damn that CGI looks old. Been a while since I've seen it.
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Sam Jackson was working.

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Pretty sure Mark Hamill just confirmed at the ROTJ panel that he recorded the lines for the new trailer, even if they are the same lines that Luke spoke to Leia in ROTJ.
 
chesspieceface said:
Whoa ok, from the Mark Hamill stream:

The lines spoken in the trailer are the original lines, but he recorded a new version last week at bad robot and they're used as the echo after the lines are spoken!
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Duuuuude that echo sounds like the villain from the first teaser trailer....
 
I cant imagine anything more depressing as an actor than having to work against a full green screen for long periods, moneys good of course but damn, wheres the fun?
 
I don't wanna post the picture because it might be a spoiler to those who don't want to see it, but remember people talking about the "creature" that hands the lightsaber to Leia/Rey and how they think it might be Ahsoka(even though her race is one of the more human-looking ones). I think it might be the creature seen here.
 
Attack of the Clones is so bad.

Even back in 2002, when I was like "at least the action was better" I thought they'd fucked up the Arena fight with all the Jedi. It looked like a slow-motion middle school rave, with bugs and robots wandering into frame every now and again.

You can almost entirely, 100% substitute most of The Clone Wars for the Prequels and come away with a measurably improved experience - and if you want to know *exactly* how Anakin turned, then there's Episode III.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Attack of the Clones is so bad.

Even back in 2002, when I was like "at least the action was better" I thought they'd fucked up the Arena fight with all the Jedi. It looked like a slow-motion middle school rave, with bugs and robots wandering into frame every now and again.

You can almost entirely, 100% substitute most of The Clone Wars for the Prequels and come away with a measurably improved experience - and if you want to know *exactly* how Anakin turned, then there's Episode III.
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Attack is the only one of the prequel movies that when I revisited it years later, I had to stop watching. I just couldn't handle Anakin's brooding and sexually repressed tension.
 
Don't have a better gif, but if we're talking SLJ in the prequels I like this part of the Windu/Palpatine fight.

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"Sam, just walk forward and swing your lightsaber around as if he's doing flips in front of you."
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Attack of the Clones is so bad.

Even back in 2002, when I was like "at least the action was better" I thought they'd fucked up the Arena fight with all the Jedi. It looked like a slow-motion middle school rave, with bugs and robots wandering into frame every now and again.

You can almost entirely, 100% substitute most of The Clone Wars for the Prequels and come away with a measurably improved experience - and if you want to know *exactly* how Anakin turned, then there's Episode III.
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I always find hilarious when people bring up that dumb "Machete Order" thing for introducing the series to people.

Like, Jesus Christ, you want people to start with AOTC and hope that they stay interested?

Edit: apparently machete order still starts with Star Wars 77. Well, I've heard people recommend starting with AOTC and that's just dumb
 
Say what you will about the CG in the Geonosis battle, the small segment on the ground with the sand flying everywhere is brilliant.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Attack of the Clones is so bad.

Even back in 2002, when I was like "at least the action was better" I thought they'd fucked up the Arena fight with all the Jedi. It looked like a slow-motion middle school rave, with bugs and robots wandering into frame every now and again.

You can almost entirely, 100% substitute most of The Clone Wars for the Prequels and come away with a measurably improved experience - and if you want to know *exactly* how Anakin turned, then there's Episode III.
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I was so excited to watch Attack of the clones back then, I really wanted to love it. The first time I saw it, I fell asleep. AOTC is the one that really gets me sleepy any time I try to watch it (and I fall asleep so many times). It's amazing the power it has on me.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
I was so excited to watch Attack of the clones back then, I really wanted to love it. The first time I saw it, I fell asleep. AOTC is the one that really gets me sleepy any time I try to watch it (and I fall asleep so many times). It's amazing the power it has on me.
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I actually started to get bored of it in the theatre. This was back when I was young and stupid and my attention span could handle anything and no amount of terrible could get to me. Or so I thought...
 
rekameohs said:
I always find hilarious when people bring up that dumb "Machete Order" thing for introducing the series to people.

Like, Jesus Christ, you want people to start with AOTC and hope that they stay interested?
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Machete Order is just a weird mental exercise anyway. It's not like it's actually any better. It only *seems* better when you think about how it MIGHT have played out, but you have to have already watched the films in release order to get that idea.

Hell, if you're looking to take a Machete to Star Wars, do it like this:

The Clone Wars:
The Geonosis Arc (S2E5-8)
The Rookies Arc (S3E1, S1E5, S3E2)
The Nightsisters Arc (S3E12-14)
The Mortis Arc (S3E15-17)
All of Season 4 (starting with E7)
All of Season 5
The first and final arcs of Season 6.
Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi

Losing Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones isn't a problem. It's almost entirely unneccessary to get where you need to go for Episode III. The biggest problem won't be going from animation to live action, either. The biggest problem will be going from a version of Anakin that's somewhat understandable/kinda charismatic... to Hayden Christensen.
 
^ that order doesn't look half bad

The thing about the prequels is AOTC is really really terrible. So if you going to watch them at all, there is no sense of cutting PM. Because it atleast introduces characters. AOTC would only be that much worse for skipping the first film. Revenge of the Sith is certainly the best of the prequels, but It would be confusing without at least a bit of information going into. Which means you need to watch AOTC, which requires PM.

So watching Clone Wars helps to solve all of that to a greater extent. There was a time when I still excepted the prequels and excused them. But at that time I was lapping up all the media and video games that went with the franchise. Now I can't stand them. My memory is better than they actually are. It's really sad to see.

OT still holds up as it always did. I even surprised myself in how much I still adored them in a recent rewatch of them.
 
Master Yoshi said:
Is there anything that can be done for the quality of the prequels, or will they forever taint the Star Wars saga?
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Listening to Rebel Force Radio helped me make peace with the prequels and even come to enjoy them plus The Clone Wars was an awesome show.

For Those who want to check it out here's a series they did where They and Sam Witwer (Starkiller, Darth Maul) do voice Commentary for the original and Prequel trilogies.
http://www.shotglassdigital.com/releases/?a=3558
 
Lokimaru said:
Listening to Rebel Force Radio helped me make peace with the prequels
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You don't need to "make peace" with the prequels, though. It's perfectly okay for you to dislike movies that aren't good.

I've talked about this multiple times on Full of Sith (which is co-hosted by one of the biggest Prequel proselytizers in the entire fucking world, and I'm not even kidding. Like, he just last weekend did a show all about the Naberrie's importance as characters. Not Padme - Padme's FAMILY. And he MEANT that shit) but the problem isn't that I think a movie is bad and you don't. The problem is when I can't let you like the thing I don't like without trying to make you feel like an idiot/sycophant for liking it, and alternately; you can't let me dislike the thing you like without trying to tell me what an asshole/non-fan/hater I am for disliking it.

The problem is that so many people have decided to take their opinion on movies, and turn it into a basis of self-identification, a self-identification that needs to be defended against outside assault. And so much of Star Wars fandom just automatically buys into that, and doesn't even question that dichotomy, and FEEDS it. Which is why you have shows that try to get you to "make peace" with shitty movies. Bond fans don't do that with the 2/3rds of Bond movies that suck ass. Trek fans will HAPPILY join you in pointing out all the shit-tier aspects of the hours upon HOURS of shit Star Trek. Doctor Who fans will unite in their derision of the worst technicolor low-budget vomit the BBC ever barfed.

But somehow Star Wars fans can't let other Star Wars fans call the prequels shitty without calling someone's cognitive abilities and observable honesty into question.

It's asinine.

The prequels are mostly bad movies. But if you like them, and you think they're cool? Good on you. Lord knows there are objectively shitty movies I can defend and appreciate. But that doesn't mean I'm not fully aware of the general perception of those films, and raging against that isn't going to change that perception, much less anyone else's mind. It's just going to make me look like an oversensitive asshole. It's on me to hear you out when you say why you like them, and not belittle you for feeling that way, just like it's on you to let it go when a movie you had no hand in writing, acting in, or directing, isn't liked by someone else.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
That cgi looks bad, yes, but for me nothing will top the scene where Yoda, Windy, and Obi Wan are talking in a hallway in Attack of the clones. McGregor and Jackson look like they were pasted in. Such terrible work.

I wish I could find a clip of it or gif.
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The worst CGI in the prequels is the clone troopers with live-action heads pasted on. They really fucked up at tracking and compositing those.
 
Moonkid said:
Say what you will about the CG in the Geonosis battle, the small segment on the ground with the sand flying everywhere is brilliant.
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And yeah, I agree. I remember there being a commercial or a teaser or something that closed with that image, and I thought "Okay, that looks cool."

But it's just 5 seconds of footage in a largely not good climax to a very not good movie, unfortunately.
 
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