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Starcraft 1 : GAFers unite!

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clav

Member
GAF Replay Roundup 2-22-2010: 3 games
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1. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144796/GAF/Starcraft Replays/2-22-2010 SC Game 1.rep

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8 FFA The Hunters Official Map: This one was ridiculously long and is why we can't have any more FFA games.

2. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144796/GAF/Starcraft Replays/2-22-2010 SC Game 2.rep

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4 vs. 4 The Hunters iccup version since people argued this is a more balanced version.

3. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144796/GAF/Starcraft Replays/2-22-2010 SC Game 3.rep

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4 vs. 4 The Hunters iccup version
 
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Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
that ffa was great, even if the map sucked. :lol my natural didnt even have a geyser! totally not cool, forced me to spec zealots and energy units, still turtle mode and dark archons were great.

oh yawee, your science vessels are so tasty!

whats with the superhigh redundancy in apms? >_> if clicking once does the job, there's no need to torture your mouse. -.-
 
Y

Yaweee

Member
So, we need a better pool of maps rather than just selecting Hunters all the time. Digging through the Bnet archives, I see...

Meat Grinder
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/LP/9902/mg.jpg
Looks good for Team or Short FFA games, since there are no natural expansions and only one resource-rich expansion up a cliff in the middle

Plains of Snow 98
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/8/bpos.jpg
Huge, wide open, no natural expansions, and only a few flight-only expansions. Probably best for FFA or small teams.

Green Valleys
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/ladder/xgv.jpg
Simple design, might lend itself to some dick Cannons/Tanks on cliffs, but looks pretty reasonable and anti-turtle


Friends 98
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/8/bfu.jpg
Shared bases - the ideal 4v4 or 2v2v2v2 map.


Theatre of War
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bw08/tow.jpg
Strongly anti-turtle due to the exposed naturals, no choke points, and lower-altitude outer-ring with expansions.

Wheel of War
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bw08/wow.jpg
Simple design, easily circumvented choke points.

Scorpion Ravine
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/LP/0399/sr.jpg
Fair map, full natural expansions, choke points, and two contested expansions up cliffs in the middle.

Border Dispute
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bwallied/xbd.jpg
2v2v2v2, Rather large but interesting




Crystal Castles
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bwallied/xcc.jpg
4v4 Shared Base
 
C

clav

Member
Pandaman said:
that ffa was great, even if the map sucked. :lol my natural didnt even have a geyser! totally not cool, forced me to spec zealots and energy units, still turtle mode and dark archons were great.

oh yawee, your science vessels are so tasty!

whats with the superhigh redundancy in apms? >_> if clicking once does the job, there's no need to torture your mouse. -.-
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That FFA was terrible. You just sat there building photon canons and a bunch of dark archons. I actually went on a rampage killing everyone one by one, and then I got lazy since you guys were just sitting there.

I like the later games we played. It was clear that there was a lot of friction and occurred in many short intervals.

For me, it's to keep in rhythm. That's why I have redundant apms.

Yaweee said:
So, we need a better pool of maps rather than just selecting Hunters all the time. Digging through the Bnet archives, I see...

Meat Grinder
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/LP/9902/mg.jpg
Looks good for Team or Short FFA games, since there are no natural expansions and only one resource-rich expansion up a cliff in the middle

Plains of Snow 98
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/8/bpos.jpg
Huge, wide open, no natural expansions, and only a few flight-only expansions. Probably best for FFA or small teams.

Green Valleys
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/ladder/xgv.jpg
Simple design, might lend itself to some dick Cannons/Tanks on cliffs, but looks pretty reasonable and anti-turtle


Friends 98
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/8/bfu.jpg
Shared bases - the ideal 4v4 or 2v2v2v2 map.


Theatre of War
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bw08/tow.jpg
Strongly anti-turtle due to the exposed naturals, no choke points, and lower-altitude outer-ring with expansions.

Wheel of War
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bw08/wow.jpg
Simple design, easily circumvented choke points.

Scorpion Ravine
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/LP/0399/sr.jpg
Fair map, full natural expansions, choke points, and two contested expansions up cliffs in the middle.

Border Dispute
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bwallied/xbd.jpg
2v2v2v2, Rather large but interesting




Crystal Castles
http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bwallied/xcc.jpg
4v4 Shared Base
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Shared base is hunters though. It's perhaps a map for noobs to best be accustomed with. A lot of casual players play on it.

We can try these other maps hm. They look pretty interesting.
 
P

PandaPandaPanda

Member
I like wheel of war although of course no one plays it. There's a version of it similar to it in WC3 although that's a different game altogether.

and whee, been playing random games here and there and everyone likes to rush a lot -_-
 
Y

Yaweee

Member
So, I'm interested in some games in the next two hours before Lost begins. I'll be sitting in USEast channel GAF
 
A

a176

Banned
Yaweee said:
So, I'm interested in some games in the next two hours before Lost begins. I'll be sitting in USEast channel GAF
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there might not be any 8 player maps, though many of the maps have 'observer' versions; ie you can 1v1/2v2 and have other people spectate the match.
 
M

mcrae

Member
wahhhh no ones there and no one from the other night is online. i'll be playing some use map settings games while i wait, account is *mcrae on useast
 
P

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
claviertekky said:
That FFA was terrible. You just sat there building photon canons and a bunch of dark archons. I actually went on a rampage killing everyone one by one, and then I got lazy since you guys were just sitting there.
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don't get salty just because my plan worked with half the gas you had available to you.
'oh but the map is balanced' :lol

on a related note, im idling in GAF and mcrae is playing a ZERO CLUTTAH.
 
C

clav

Member
Pandaman said:
http://i46.tinypic.com/25h305w.jpg

don't get salty just because my plan worked with half the gas you had available to you.
'oh but the map is balanced' :lol

on a related note, im idling in GAF and mcrae is playing a ZERO CLUTTAH.
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Just drop it man.

Notice the time we spent on ffas because of your "strategy."

Jumping in now.
 
P

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
claviertekky said:
Just drop it man.

Notice the time we spent on ffas because of your "strategy."

Jumping in now.
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it was still shorter then the time when i went out and bodied every player on the map, its length was in line with every 8 player ffa gaf has played.

are you really shocked that an 8 player ffa might be a time killer? :lol turtling is the smart thing to do in that situation. its the winning thing to do. especially when the map limits your resource count out of the gate. -.- patience has its place in starcraft.

-

i think we have 5 people atm?
 
P

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
if by nice you mean double pwned, then yes it was. >_> i could afford clav offing my nat, i couldnt afford losing my other three expands at the same time just when ultra tech opened up. :lol

also fuck irradiate.
 
B

Blizzard

Banned
NeoUltima said:
Sorry I wasn't able to play tonight...I've been deathly ill.
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Get well soon! I'm interested in clav's replay. He said his replay scanner thingy flagged mcrae using a cheat (6 actions being commanded in the same second?), but I didn't see the end of that discussion.
 
M

mcrae

Member
yeah i was using a multicommand thing that lets you select more than 12 units at once. sooo... sorry :/ won't bother trying to join anymore.
 
P

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Blizzard said:
Get well soon! I'm interested in clav's replay. He said his replay scanner thingy flagged mcrae using a cheat (6 actions being commanded in the same second?), but I didn't see the end of that discussion.
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in one second wouldn't be an issue as both clav and yawee have had apm's at that pace.

hopefully clav will post the report. until then, innocent until proven guilty. i'm not particularly bothered by the idea. anti hack systems often detect each other as they're all unofficial third party programs.

edit: or mcrae could just post, that works too.

>_>
<_<
BURN THE WITCH!
 
Fixed1979

Fixed1979

Member
Goddamn, are you guys playing pretty much every night now? I figured it was a really occasional thing. If I can tear myself away from HR then I'll have to get back on the get my ass handed to me again.
 
I

Ice Monkey

Member
Pandaman said:
in one second wouldn't be an issue as both clav and yawee have had apm's at that pace.

hopefully clav will post the report. until then, innocent until proven guilty. i'm not particularly bothered by the idea. anti hack systems often detect each other as they're all unofficial third party programs.

edit: or mcrae could just post, that works too.

>_>
<_<
BURN THE WITCH!
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i know what he's talking about, i was considering using it in single player, but suffice it to say if everyone's not using it in multi its a cheat
 
I

Ice Monkey

Member
mcrae said:
yeah i was using a multicommand thing that lets you select more than 12 units at once. sooo... sorry :/ won't bother trying to join anymore.
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its not like its the worst thing in the world, but just as with the auto queue hack if you're using it and everyone else isnt you have an unfair advantage.
 
fatty

fatty

Member
Anyone up for some 2v2 against me and a friend around 9CST tonight? The maps will be from the iccup map 2 pack (I want to play one on Fighting Spirit and the other on Eye of the Storm). If you remember me from earlier games this week you'll remember that I'm not that good and he's even worse but we're looking to get some practice (preferably against zerg but I'll take what I can get) since we're going up against some friends this weekend who play zerg.
 
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PandaPandaPanda

Member
my stance is people want to use 3rd party programs, go for it

I don't really care since it's not like we're playing at a professional level or anything but thats just me
 
S

Shanadeus

Banned
PandaPandaPanda said:
my stance is people want to use 3rd party programs, go for it

I don't really care since it's not like we're playing at a professional level or anything but thats just me
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If people are gonna use 3rd party programs they should at least have the decency of telling others so that they can decide if they wanna play with them or not.
 
C

clav

Member
fatty said:
Anyone up for some 2v2 against me and a friend around 9CST tonight? The maps will be from the iccup map 2 pack (I want to play one on Fighting Spirit and the other on Eye of the Storm). If you remember me from earlier games this week you'll remember that I'm not that good and he's even worse but we're looking to get some practice (preferably against zerg but I'll take what I can get) since we're going up against some friends this weekend who play zerg.
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I might take you up on that offer.

We'll see whoever is there tonight. We play on US East and meetups occur on channel GAF (/j GAF).

As for uploading stuff from last night, I'll get to that later.

As for mcrae, eh, just promise me that you won't be using hacks again because I'll assume you're using other hacks such as a map hack. I've played quite a number of games on battle.net when people used map hacks, mine hacks, and unit control hacks, and it's very frustrating. After watching the replay several times, I thought it looked suspicious from my angle as I didn't understand why you were clearing out bases. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until I analyzed the replay with a program.
 
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Milabrega

Member
I'm gonna hop on in a little bit 7pm (25 minutes from now) if anyone is interested, if no one's around I won't wait in the channel too long, but if wanna play you can catch me in the IRC channel used for SF4/TvC infos in the OP here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385841

Shanadeus said:
I'm an absolutely horrid starcraft player, but I would liek to play some friendly games later tonight.
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Just hop into any game later, but try to avoid claviertekky, guy is way to salty to keep things friendly. :lol
 
C

clav

Member
GAF Replay Roundup 2-23-2010: 4 games
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1. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144796/GAF/Starcraft Replays/2-23-2010 SC Game 1.rep

3 v 3 Theater of War. I got my ass dominated thanks to poor scouting from myself. Nice one Mila although I think it would have been a different game had you been attacked. You had a free pass.

2-23-2010%20SC%20Game%201.PNG


2. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144796/GAF/Starcraft Replays/2-23-2010 SC Game 2.rep

8 ffa on theater of war. mcrae wins although is caught cheating.

2-23-2010%20SC%20Game%202.PNG


Proof:
2-23-2010%20SC%20Game%202%20Hack%20Scan.PNG


mcrae, clean yourself up or you're not allowed in our sessions any more.

3. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144796/GAF/Starcraft Replays/2-23-2010 SC Game 3.rep

1 v 1 Obs on heartbreak ridge. It was a true newbie against a novice, so it was unfair.

2-23-2010%20SC%20Game%203.PNG


4. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144796/GAF/Starcraft Replays/2-23-2010 SC Game 4.rep

3 ffa on blood bath.

2-23-2010%20SC%20Game%204.PNG


Milabrega said:
Just hop into any game later, but try to avoid claviertekky, guy is way to salty to keep things friendly. :lol
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? Come on now. You guys are insensitive for doing this. You guys (mila and pandacraft) like picking on people.

Who uses the word "salty" to describe people? Is this a Canadian thing? This is not the first time you've guys mentioned that way. All you do cling on it and rub it all over me. Let it go please.

I'm actually arranging things for GAF. Wow. I just don't know what to say.

If you want to label me that way fine, but I don't understand the adversity against me. It's very insensitive, and I don't see how we can call ourselves a community then.

Man, I don't know if I want to play any more because that's just not right. You owe me an apology.

I put myself out there and you treat me like this.

If you want to be forever known as the dickish asshole who labels people and talks trash behind their backs, then so be it.

You say I'm salty because I got impatient for a game that shouldn't last long, and it really shouldn't. Other people agreed to that on that night. They're not vocal about it. I said something to IMPROVE the pacing of the game as not everyone has the time to just sit there. You know you're wrong, and what you're doing is hurting other people by saying insensitive things like that.

Please stop.
 
Y

Yaweee

Member
This might seem anal, but the 3v3 and FFA were on Theatre of War (not Wheel of War, which is a completely different map)
 
B

Blizzard

Banned
Thanks for admitting it, mcrae. I don't think it's the end of the world if someone uses some program, but I do agree that if you do that, please be honest and just announce/ask people in the channel before the game. If no one minds, then it's your business, but otherwise, people may be at a disadvantage if they don't use any third-party programs.

Clavier, I think mila is just being silly/sarcastic, but I could be wrong. I don't know what "salty" actually means so I guess I assumed he was joking? :) Hopefully we can clear up any misunderstanding.
 
I

Ice Monkey

Member
Blizzard said:
Thanks for admitting it, mcrae. I don't think it's the end of the world if someone uses some program, but I do agree that if you do that, please be honest and just announce/ask people in the channel before the game. If no one minds, then it's your business, but otherwise, people may be at a disadvantage if they don't use any third-party programs.

Clavier, I think mila is just being silly/sarcastic, but I could be wrong. I don't know what "salty" actually means so I guess I assumed he was joking? :) Hopefully we can clear up any misunderstanding.
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lol panda said he was salty for hating how panda won with billions of photon cannons and made the game last forever thats all
 
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