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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)

Zzoram

Member
chris-013 said:
Shit... What did I miss ^^;

A few random people in the beta got an extra key sent to them by Blizzard. They are supposed to give it to a friend, likely to encourage more 2v2 in the beta by getting people who know each other in some way to play together. A lot of people are uncomfortable playing team games with total strangers and this solves that problem.

In Starcraft Broodwar, the game is very well balanced for 1v1 but is fairly broken for 2v2 (but I think that's true of basically every RTS). Korea stopped doing 2v2 because it was always Protoss+Zerg vs Protoss+Zerg, pick 1 opponent and Zergling/Zealot rush to cripple (while countering their own rush to cripple you). The team with an advantage would follow up with a Zealot/Mutalisk push and win. It would always play out the same way and got boring to watch.

I imagine that Blizzard wants things to be different in Starcraft II, and therefore wants more people playing 2v2 to generate more data for them to balance it better.
 

Trasher

Member
I got myself a key thanks to a very kind soul. SO EXCITING!

Edit: Key invalid. Wtf. :(

Is it because I am currently signed up for the beta under my Mac OS? When I type in the key it says it's invalid. Nooooooooooo.
 

Apath

Member
Seriously stop the begging. It has been non-stop begging for like two pages, and I just want to hear people's actual insight on how the game is playing, what feels broken, etc.

>=[ /rant
 

fanboi

Banned
Kenak said:
Seriously stop the begging. It has been non-stop begging for like two pages, and I just want to hear people's actual insight on how the game is playing, what feels broken, etc.

>=[ /rant

Agreed (even though I'm part of the problem).

So, should we start an key begging thread instead? If the mods are OK with it.
 

ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
New page, new pitch:

Give me a key and I'll change my license plate to "KEKEKEK" and post a pic up here on GAF when they come in.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Trasher said:
I got myself a key thanks to a very kind soul. SO EXCITING!

Edit: Key invalid. Wtf. :(

Is it because I am currently signed up for the beta under my Mac OS? When I type in the key it says it's invalid. Nooooooooooo.

sounds like the kind soul might actually be an ass soul... right? i kid i kid - i'm not sure if there's a wait time for it to work?
 

chris-013

Member
Trasher said:
I got myself a key thanks to a very kind soul. SO EXCITING!

Edit: Key invalid. Wtf. :(

Is it because I am currently signed up for the beta under my Mac OS? When I type in the key it says it's invalid. Nooooooooooo.

I'm sure there are US and EU keys...
 

Aaron

Member
Zzoram said:
In Starcraft Broodwar, the game is very well balanced for 1v1 but is fairly broken for 2v2 (but I think that's true of basically every RTS). Korea stopped doing 2v2 because it was always Protoss+Zerg vs Protoss+Zerg, pick 1 opponent and Zergling/Zealot rush to cripple (while countering their own rush to cripple you). The team with an advantage would follow up with a Zealot/Mutalisk push and win. It would always play out the same way and got boring to watch.
I don't think there's a way to make 2v2 consistently interesting to watch. You'll get a few cool games, mostly exhibition matches where the players don't care as much, but normally it's going to be gang up quick on one player, and once he's wiped it's pretty much game over. Just too imbalanced in concept to lead to many solid matches.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Kenak said:
Thanks for the link.
Now they are losing though. The guy's partner had some excellent excellent stalker and colossus control for 2 games in a row holding off what I though was sure gg.
 

mint

Banned
Trasher said:
Hmmm? The person who gave it to me is from the US and so am I. He forwarded me the whole email so I know it's legit haha.
Trasher. You & me 2v2!!! Like HoN times..kinda XD

I wish Blizzard would add a clan create option in this beta. I'm sure there will be one soon I hope.
 

Trasher

Member
mint said:
Trasher. You & me 2v2!!! Like HoN times..kinda XD

I wish Blizzard would add a clan create option in this beta. I'm sure there will be one soon I hope.
Haha I am so in dude!

Just gimme time to train up a bit and catch up to you. :p
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Haha I'd like to take back my "I'm ok" statement - I just got obliterated in my first match - tried playing classic defensive Terran with bunkers, apparently I let my economy run too long as I was bombarded with marines lolll
 

Trasher

Member
DopeyFish said:
Haha I'd like to take back my "I'm ok" statement - I just got obliterated in my first match - tried playing classic defensive Terran with bunkers, apparently I let my economy run too long as I was bombarded with marines lolll
You are already playing? Wtf. Why isn't my key activated yet?

Did you get an EU key?
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
DopeyFish said:
Haha I'd like to take back my "I'm ok" statement - I just got obliterated in my first match - tried playing classic defensive Terran with bunkers, apparently I let my economy run too long as I was bombarded with marines lolll
I was going to mention something about playing as Terran in SC2...

Know what your opponent is doing at all times and push with a strong bio army (with upgrades, shield, stim, +1, etc) when a good opportunity arises.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Trasher said:
Alright. Makes me feel a little better.

*continues repeatedly entering key*


blizzard says if your key is 27 numbers long, only input the first 26 numbers (or characters, rather) so just remove the last letter or number
 

Trasher

Member
DopeyFish said:
blizzard says if your key is 27 numbers long, only input the first 26 numbers (or characters, rather) so just remove the last letter or number
It's only 26 long.

Scrow said:
ha, nice work. i was thinking of making such a thread earlier today.

edit: added to OP
Wow, I had always thought Scrow had an invite all this time. This is HIS thread and no one has given him a key yet?! :(
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
Trasher said:
Wow, I had always thought Scrow had an invite all this time. This is HIS thread and no one has given him a key yet?! :(
i love looking at the first page of this thread. it's so funny to think i made this thread on the 22nd of June LAST YEAR, truly expecting the beta to be released not long after. :lol

and i probably haven't gotten a key yet cause i haven't asked for one, until evilore posted that thread. :)
 

Trasher

Member
Scrow said:
i love looking at the first page of this thread. it's so funny to think i made this thread on the 22nd of June LAST YEAR, truly expecting the beta to be released not long after. :lol
Haha wow that is quite a while back. I'm impressed that people found this thread when the beta finally did get released.
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
Trasher said:
Haha wow that is quite a while back. I'm impressed that people found this thread when the beta finally did get released.
it kept getting intermittent bumps from people saying stuff like, "omfg where is the beta?!" followed by replies like, "omg stfu, you got my hopes up!".

a week leading up to the beta getting released there were some very strong hints that the beta was about to land, so it was in recent memory and not far from the first page.
 

mint

Banned
Trasher said:
Haha wow that is quite a while back. I'm impressed that people found this thread when the beta finally did get released.
It's sad that EU and US can't play together, we wont be able to play with Sanjay or Haly if they get in :(

What bnet and character name will you use? Mine is mint.mint ok?
 
mint said:
It's sad that EU and US can't play together, we wont be able to play with Sanjay or Haly if they get in :(

What bnet and character name will you use? Mine is mint.mint ok?

This is sad. Can't you chose you region , like in Diablo 2 ?
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
i'm in the beta now.

Scrow.gaf

just played my first match in the practice league and got dominated. i honestly have no idea what i'm doing, especially on a new map, lol. good times though!

edit: heh, it's such an education watching a replay of your own match. for some reason i made no reaction when i scanned and saw his fleet beacon (i was terran he was protoss). I should've stopped what i was doing and invested everything into pumping out vikings as fast as possible, instead i stupidly kept doing what i was doing. "sticking to your guns" is a fatal mistake in this game. lol
 

taoofjord

Member
I've got an extra beta code now. I'm looking to give it to someone who is very serious about playing the beta, but relatively new to the game and genre. You also need to be friendly and not obnoxious. Send me your PMs so we can keep this OKCupid crap off the forum. :p
 

Effect

Member
Hmm. Is Starcraft 2 going to have it's main characters act as hero units again? They sort of toyed with the idea in Starcraft 1 but the units were pretty much different colored versions of normal units. They went down just as easy so at times it was simply safer to put them in ship and off into a corner during the main game until they were needed. It wasn't until Warcraft 3 that the hero units were significantly more powerful. They were also used in online play as well.

Has anything been said or are there any indications during the beta that something similar will be done for Starcraft 2?
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
Effect said:
Hmm. Is Starcraft 2 going to have it's main characters act as hero units again? They sort of toyed with the idea in Starcraft 1 but the units were pretty much different colored versions of normal units. They went down just as easy so at times it was simply safer to put them in ship and off into a corner during the main game until they were needed. It wasn't until Warcraft 3 that the hero units were significantly more powerful. They were also used in online play as well.

Has anything been said or are there any indications during the beta that something similar will be done for Starcraft 2?
http://sclegacy.com/news/23-sc2/626-blizzard-at-gdc-2010-where-did-starcraft-qfailq

"Pardo feels that Blizzard failed in the [task of hero units] with the original StarCraft. By their nature, heroes should be the character that is the most powerful unit on the field who leads armies and can turn the tide of battle. In StarCraft , though, the hero units were fragile, especially in battles involving 50-plus units, so players ended up sheltering their heroes back at their base. He said this problem was fixed in Warcraft III, though, where the hero actually was the most powerful unit, and since battle sizes were smaller and the legendary fighters could resurrect, players used them as intended."
 

Minsc

Gold Member
Effect said:
Hmm. Is Starcraft 2 going to have it's main characters act as hero units again? They sort of toyed with the idea in Starcraft 1 but the units were pretty much different colored versions of normal units. They went down just as easy so at times it was simply safer to put them in ship and off into a corner during the main game until they were needed. It wasn't until Warcraft 3 that the hero units were significantly more powerful. They were also used in online play as well.

Has anything been said or are there any indications during the beta that something similar will be done for Starcraft 2?

What's the special ship you get as terrans, pretty early on, the one with the laser that can out-range everything in the game? That thing is pretty bad-ass, it you defended it a little, it could destroy entire bases unquestioned. Even it's standard attack laser kills most units in one or two shots.

Generally though, the units could have been stronger. But now with the RPG (upgrading) elements in StarCraft 2's campaign, things should be a lot more interesting.
 

hobart

Member
I'm looking forward to hitting this up with a few of the HoN crew eventually.

Trasher you running a different rig... or you rocking Windows thru Bootcamp for this? GL with the key. I'm going to be patient and wait for mine in April for a native Mac key ;)
 

garath

Member
So as a Starcraft newcomer, I've been trying to get the basics down as well as learn the game - units, tech trees, etc. I've made some good progress and won the last couple I played by some miracle (it's more quality of opponents as opposed to my own skill) but I'm still working out an efficient starting build order.

Currently playing Protoss (though terran looks like another possible race for me), any suggestions on a quick and dirty build order to start the game off and be able to hold off any quick rushes?

I don't have a set plan yet but I've been mostly creating probes until I have about 9 mining, (boosting when it's available) then I go create the first pylon. After that I pump out another probe and build a gateway. Immediately after I build my first refinery, then I generally pump out a couple more probes to get the gas while I build a couple zealots. It's never consistent and mostly a mess from here.
 

steadfast

Member
So I sent a friend the invite key and when he tried to register it this morning, battle.net said it was invalid.

Has a keygen already been engineered? Do I blame Kim Jong Il? I feel horrible for getting his hopes up for nothing.
 
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