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[WanderingWind]

I'm hoping y'all can help here. I'm trying to set up a matchmaking 1 vs the AI so I can practice setting up hotkeys and all that other stuff in fatty's post, but it just pops up a blank error box. Tried it this morning, afternoon and a few minutes ago. Some sort of download is failing? I dunno. Is there another way to play against bots?

 

[Ketch]

I'm hoping y'all can help here. I'm trying to set up a matchmaking 1 vs the AI so I can practice setting up hotkeys and all that other stuff in fatty's post, but it just pops up a blank error box. Tried it this morning, afternoon and a few minutes ago. Some sort of download is failing? I dunno. Is there another way to play against bots?

You can do matchmaking against the AI, where it chooses difficulty based on previous performance. Or, you can create a custom match and just add an AI opponent of any race/difficulty.

It sounds like there's an issue with your game though, I think the launcher has a repair tool built in or something... maybe give that a look?

 

[WanderingWind]

You can do matchmaking against the AI, where it chooses difficulty based on previous performance. Or, you can create a custom match and just add an AI opponent of any race/difficulty.

It sounds like there's an issue with your game though, I think the launcher has a repair tool built in or something... maybe give that a look?

Found the repair tool - I didn't even think of that. Trying it now.

 

[Aylinato]

Nope. Swarm hosts, static D, vipers. Come at me bro. Get on SC2.

Whenever you don't want to be bored ill play again.

 

[Ketch]

Whenever you don't want to be bored ill play again.

Shit, who won? post the replay!

 

[Aylinato]

Shit, who won? post the replay!

Striek cause he lost interest so I gged out

 

[Ketch]

Aww, well maybe this will cheer you up then:

Dumbest possible fight in StarCraft history

 

[darkiguana]

I actually won a game where I know I did not play my best at all. Ladder game I am Terran, he is zerg. I kept getting supply blocked and my timings were all off. He kept coming at me w/ zerglings, banesling and then mutas. Killed off my scvs at my natural at least twice. I was finally able to get a good army up and I was able to hit his base. Killed his mutas and was able to withstand his baneling attack. Then I killed his greater spire and he quit. Feels good man

 

[WanderingWind]

No luck. Restarted the client, computer, repaired...I got nothing.

 

[Striek]

Striek cause he lost interest so I gged out

Lol, ok, thats what happened.

http://drop.sc/316222

 

[Crimsonlink]

And oh how glorious down here it is. Spend a tedious amount of time building a glorious Battlecruiser fleet, mourn as nearly all of them are snatched into a giant Muta fuckball of death within seconds by Vipers. Agony.

Muta are terrible vs Battlecruisers, like one BC requires about 15 Mutas to focus fire and it would take down about 3 or 4 if Yamato was used.... I think you meant Corruptors.

Anyways good to see everyone improving and practicing. I think I'll be out of Gold by the end of this Season after class is over with.

Also I think we should drop the GAF night replays to share the hilarity and good games.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Aww, well maybe this will cheer you up then:

Dumbest possible fight in StarCraft history

Man, I wish Swarm Hosts were used more in ZvZ. Swarm Hosts vs. Swarm Hosts sounds awesome.

 

[mercviper]

Finished my placements finally. Gold league after going 3-2 -_-

Still trying to perfect FilterSC's 2base roach in the early game and I keep messing up.

Here's a replay of the last win i had in placement where I totally don't build the roach warren because the drone gets stuck behind the queen. I notice it later and say hey why aren't you mining and send it back to the minerals. Come ~8:00 I realize I don't have the warren and build it and zerglings in panic.

http://drop.sc/316157

The last 2 matches I lost horribly because I didn't tech up past the initial roach macro. I streamed it so I have the videos of me complaining the whole match but mehhhh. I still need to go back and watch those replays to see where I messed up again.

 

[-COOLIO-]

tvp is haaaarrd

 

[Corran Horn]

tvp is haaaarrd

pvt is harder

 

[-COOLIO-]

pvt is harder

pssh

 

[Wunder]

tvp is so hard ;-;

 

[Mr Swine]

Wut, TvZ is where the real problem starts, not TvP :/

 

[Wunder]

http://drop.sc/316265 - 27 min game on Akilon Wastes. Pretty shitty game by me, bad ghost timing made me fall behind a bit, but I thought I took each engagement (except the last one, obviously) as best as I could. Had 1 more base than him but he had so much more than me. I find it really hard to remax with protoss and I also feel each engagement to be insanely hard to come out on top. Even if I trade evenly/better than the protoss, I still can't really engage him because he warps in 20-30 full hp zealots against my weakened bio and I have to sit back and remax and engage perfectly again. ;_;

 

[Zen]

I currently have a 20% winrate against protoss, so yeah.

 

[Crimsonlink]

The weirdest all in. Threw off my timing completely so my minerals floated really high.

http://drop.sc/316267

 

[AdventureRacing]

http://drop.sc/316265 - 27 min game on Akilon Wastes. Pretty shitty game by me, bad ghost timing made me fall behind a bit, but I thought I took each engagement (except the last one, obviously) as best as I could. Had 1 more base than him but he had so much more than me. I find it really hard to remax with protoss and I also feel each engagement to be insanely hard to come out on top. Even if I trade evenly/better than the protoss, I still can't really engage him because he warps in 20-30 full hp zealots against my weakened bio and I have to sit back and remax and engage perfectly again. ;_;

The ghost timing isn't what made you fall behind. At the start with no pressure from either side, just straight macro you fell behind by like 10+ workers. When you finally went over to his base to do some pressure your drop was completely ineffective. You waited to long before moving your units in and then you stimmed them straight towards his army. Then when he activated the planatary nexus you just stood in it and let your army get vaporised. The protoss let his macro completely slip at this point so the game went on otherwise it was over.

Your ghosts being late wasn't an issue at all. There was only 1 engagement in the whole game where he had storms and you had no ghosts and i don't think you lost a single engagement. By the time he yous actually had a battle you had like 10 ghosts (which you just through away). If he had landed his storms there you would have been decimated.

You were overly passive at multiple points. After that first big engagement you were up by like 50 supply. If you had of attacked you almost certainly would have killed or crippled him. Instead you sat back and let him just build up again.

So i guess my tips would be.
-Work on your early macro, i know it's cliche and applies to everyone but it's one of the things that made you fall behind
-When doing drops or harass focus on the mineral line. Also in general try more drops even if you think you can't. Protoss players hate it and it's the easiest way to get them to make mistakes
-Push your advantage. If you win a battle by a landslide don't just sit back. The whole when you're ahead just get more ahead is terrible advice in that situation (and in general). The best players know when to punish your opponent and that was the big thing you lacked.

Basically you need to take advantage of the strengths of your race. Terran have the most tools at their disposal to be aggressive and harass. If you don't like the late game engagements try more stuff in between to either win the game or get ahead.

I don't think you're doing as bad as you think either. I wish my terran was as good as yours .

 

[Wunder]

The ghost timing isn't what made you fall behind. At the start with no pressure from either side, just straight macro you fell behind by like 10+ workers. When you finally went over to his base to do some pressure your drop was completely ineffective. You waited to long before moving your units in and then you stimmed them straight towards his army. Then when he activated the planatary nexus you just stood in it and let your army get vaporised. The protoss let his macro completely slip at this point so the game went on otherwise it was over.

Your ghosts being late wasn't an issue at all. There was only 1 engagement in the whole game where he had storms and you had no ghosts and i don't think you lost a single engagement. By the time he yous actually had a battle you had like 10 ghosts (which you just through away). If he had landed his storms there you would have been decimated.

You were overly passive at multiple points. After that first big engagement you were up by like 50 supply. If you had of attacked you almost certainly would have killed or crippled him. Instead you sat back and let him just build up again.

So i guess my tips would be.
-Work on your early macro, i know it's cliche and applies to everyone but it's one of the things that made you fall behind
-When doing drops or harass focus on the mineral line. Also in general try more drops even if you think you can't. Protoss players hate it and it's the easiest way to get them to make mistakes
-Push your advantage. If you win a battle by a landslide don't just sit back. The whole when you're ahead just get more ahead is terrible advice in that situation (and in general). The best players know when to punish your opponent and that was the big thing you lacked.

Basically you need to take advantage of the strengths of your race. Terran have the most tools at their disposal to be aggressive and harass. If you don't like the late game engagements try more stuff in between to either win the game or get ahead.

I don't think you're doing as bad as you think either. I wish my terran was as good as yours .

Thanks for watching! I didn't realize I fell behind, I thought that my macro was decent but a few instances have made me rethink how much I get supply capped/make SCVs. I always get told I'm really passive, so I guess I need to really work on that.

Thanks for the tips and compliments! I'm always wary of drops in the late game but I suppose there's no real harm in doing them, I need more control groups though, I have 1/2/3 for army/viking/ghosts and no real room for medivacs since 4-7 is my production/cc.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Thanks for watching! I didn't realize I fell behind, I thought that my macro was decent but a few instances have made me rethink how much I get supply capped/make SCVs. I always get told I'm really passive, so I guess I need to really work on that.

Thanks for the tips and compliments! I'm always wary of drops in the late game but I suppose there's no real harm in doing them, I need more control groups though, I have 1/2/3 for army/viking/ghosts and no real room for medivacs since 4-7 is my production/cc.

I'm having that exact problem right now. My medivac control is woeful lol, i use the same groups as you.

Just remember in the late game you have a lot of money and income. A drop dieing for nothing isn't a huge deal and the one you make successful could be a game changer. It also keeps that big scary death ball sitting in his base . Oh if only i could actually do these things ;;.

 

[Yoshichan]

TvP is a good match up until toss decides to make air units.

 

[Aylinato]

Lol, ok, thats what happened.

http://drop.sc/316222

Still 2 games left

 

[celestial body]

Silver players are nothing if not resourceful. Had a guy go roach into swarm host into muta all off one base. He only made 3 of each, mind, but still impressive.

 

[ghst]

Aww, well maybe this will cheer you up then:

Dumbest possible fight in StarCraft history

the last code S final had a fight which makes that look dynamic.

 

[Sibylus]

Muta are terrible vs Battlecruisers, like one BC requires about 15 Mutas to focus fire and it would take down about 3 or 4 if Yamato was used.... I think you meant Corruptors.

Anyways good to see everyone improving and practicing. I think I'll be out of Gold by the end of this Season after class is over with.

Also I think we should drop the GAF night replays to share the hilarity and good games.

Nope, I really mean Mutas. Yamato probably would have made things interesting, I was kinda taken aback and not thinking though, lol (and his focus fire seemed decent enough to blow each up stupidly-fast).

 

[WanderingWind]

Can anybody help with some very basic information? As in, how the hell do you win as zerg vs terran? Lol.

I'm barely getting my spire up and they're running in with two med ships, 2 battle cruisers and 2 of the air only ships. How am I supposed to defend against an air rush like that?

 

[AppleSmack]

Can anybody help with some very basic information? As in, how the hell do you win as zerg vs terran? Lol.

I'm barely getting my spire up and they're running in with two med ships, 2 battle cruisers and 2 of the air only ships. How am I supposed to defend against an air rush like that?

I would watch the replay. I bet your macro slipped hard for him to be getting 2 battle cruisers before you even have lair tech. Also, if he is battle cruiser rushing you can probably just bust down the front and kill him.

 

[WanderingWind]

I would watch the replay. I bet your macro slipped hard for him to be getting 2 battle cruisers before you even have lair tech.

Uhhuh, uhhuh. Yup.

I recognize some of those words. Macro?

 

[StayDead]

Can anybody help with some very basic information? As in, how the hell do you win as zerg vs terran? Lol.

I'm barely getting my spire up and they're running in with two med ships, 2 battle cruisers and 2 of the air only ships. How am I supposed to defend against an air rush like that?

If that's happening it's your macro being bad. No way should he be able to get battlecruisers before you can get a spire.

 

[AppleSmack]

Uhhuh, uhhuh. Yup.

I recognize some of those words. Macro?

Watch these:
Refining Mechanics
Refining Mechanics 2

 

[Lucid07]

Could someone tell me what that says?

 

[Sibylus]

Chateux salope? That hotel doesn't seem to be google adsense friendly...

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Could someone tell me what that says?

I understand French, but I don't really understand the above.

Literal translation: "You really are just a [fdp] castle whore."

Might mean he's accusing you of turtling.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Just finished Wings of Liberty, a bit LTTP. Should I jump right into this? Hmm. How's the difficulty compared to WoL? There were two missions I had to bump down from normal in the first campaign.

 

[WanderingWind]

Watch these:
Refining Mechanics
Refining Mechanics 2

"This is for people who just finished single player..."

PERFECT! Thanks...lol. Watching now.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I often think I should have went protoss instead of Terran but then I think of all the missed force fields.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I often think I should have went protoss instead of Terran but then I think of all the missed force fields.

I just picked Zerg 'cause they're awesome. All of their mechanics of how they played and all came second.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I just picked Zerg 'cause they're awesome. All of their mechanics of how they played and all came second.

That's why I picked Terran but I struggle with the necessary aggressiveness.

 

[f0rk]

Zerg's macro mechanics come a lot easier to me, I get confused when having to build more production buildings.

Just finished Wings of Liberty, a bit LTTP. Should I jump right into this? Hmm. How's the difficulty compared to WoL? There were two missions I had to bump down from normal in the first campaign.

HotS is easier you should be fine with Normal.

 

[WanderingWind]

Another stupid question. Are there any structures or whatever you can build to get the type of upgrades you see in single player? Like, the zergling/overlord insta-spawn?

 

[f0rk]

Another stupid question. Are there any structures or whatever you can build to get the type of upgrades you see in single player? Like, the zergling/overlord insta-spawn?

No lol, that would make the game 10 times more hilarious.

 

[sixghost]

No lol, that would make the game 10 times more hilarious.

When the Protoss expansion comes out, someone needs to make a multiplayer mode that has the campaign stuff from all three games.

 

[WanderingWind]

No lol, that would make the game 10 times more hilarious.

And no hero units, right?

 

[f0rk]

And no hero units, right?

What is this Warcraft?

 

[AppleSmack]

Does anyone else get physically exhausted playing this game for a long time? Even my arm starts to hurt like I was just lifting weights. Man I'm so weak.

 

[WanderingWind]

What is this Warcraft?

lol.

Okay, so I'm just all fucked up. I'm going to work on my hotkeys. And not scrolling. And basically just not sucking at life.

'nother dumb question. What is the benefit of roaches over hyrdas?